Window 10 spying

[Abdul Samad]

Hello guys.......
I saw people talking about window 10 spying.
what is it
is it is bad
if it is bad how can i remove it.

[Electronics Wizardy]

You can't easily remove it,

 

If you don't want it, use linux, mac os x or windows 7

[MaxBunny]

4 minutes ago, Abdul Samad said:

Hello guys.......
I saw people talking about window 10 spying.
what is it
is it is bad

Everything you use will spy on you. Even Linux. It's normal in today's world. Don't be concerned about these things.

[Guest]

Have you heard of Edward Snowden?

[MrDrWho13]

1 minute ago, MaxBunny said:

Everything you use will spy on you. Even Linux. It's normal in today's world. Don't be concerned about these things.

Yep to this. Your phone is probably tracking you right now. (Go to google maps then choose "Timeline" on the left)

Join us... join us...

but seriously, it's nothing to worry about. They're mainly trying to collect info to target their advertising.

[bgibbz]

Everything spies on you, google, microsoft, apple, linux, it doesn't matter. Its usual in todays world and the information they collect is generally non personal and only gets shared in a general sense to partners. Don't be concerned about it. Believe it or not, microsoft really doesn't care what you do on your computer.

[Mira Yurizaki]

7 minutes ago, Abdul Samad said:

Hello guys.......
I saw people talking about window 10 spying.
what is it
is it is bad
if it is bad how can i remove it.

The "spying" refers to telemetry data, or metrics about your computer which includes stuff like:

• The hardware installed
• The software installed
• How often you use the software

This is stuff normally used by the software developers to either understand how their software is being used to guide improvements and bug fixes (or to avoid bugs). Every OS does this, but Windows and more than likely macOS do not give you the option to completely opt out.

 

Anyway, if you're paranoid about this, you can:

• Not sign in Windows 10 using a Microsoft account
• Use a HOSTS file to block connections to Microsoft's telemetry data servers: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

[Canada EH]

4 minutes ago, MrDrWho13 said:

They're mainly trying to collect info to target their advertising.

^Or sell your info, to NSA, CSIS, FBI, ATF or anyone else willing the shell out $ for it.

 

 

3 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

the information they collect is generally non personal and only gets shared in a general sense to partners.

^says who? the software company?

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

microsoft really doesn't care what you do on your computer.

^I highly doubt that, MS is predatory, monopolistic for a reason

[bgibbz]

Just now, Canada EH said:

says who? the software company

That infromation comes from Nvidia. Either way, why would they share any specifics? I have a brother in the data analytics field, and small, personal data is useless from what ive heard. Generalaties is what is useful.

[MrDrWho13]

Just now, Canada EH said:

^Or sell your info, to NSA, CSIS, FBI, ATF or anyone else willing the shell out $ for it.

 

 

^says who? the software company?

 

 

 

^I highly doubt that, MS is predatory, monopolistic for a reason

Found the tin foil hat wearer. Yes they're probably sending it to the NSA, but why does that matter? What are they going to do? I know once you are in the anti-spying mindset it's basically impossible to get out of it, but I personally can't see the problem.

[MrDrWho13]

2 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

Generalaties is what is useful.

Yeah, they're mainly trying to find specific demographics to market their products/services to for maximum profit.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Canada EH said:

^I highly doubt that, MS is predatory, monopolistic for a reason

Lol, do you really think there is a microsoft employee looking through all the data collected from hundreds of millions of people?

You've got to be kidding me....

 

The data is collected by server, processed by servers, and turned into stats.

The server is a machine, it is not human, it does not care who you are.

To Microsoft you are literally a nobody, just another bit of information among millions of others.

 

It's called Big Data and is part of everything you use, not just windows 10.

Your ISP, your bank, your government, your web browser, your search engine, the websites you visit, etc...

EVERYTHING collects telemetry for Big Data.

[Canada EH]

I'd still rather have them not collect info on me.

[Enderman]

48 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

I'd still rather have them not collect info on me.

Well in that case you should also stop using a cell phone and unplug your ethernet cable because other places are tracking MUCH more sensitive information about you.

[bgibbz]

46 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

I'd still rather have them not collect info on me.

You can disable it. It is important to understand what this information is, and what its used for. Read through Microsoft's privacy policy for more info. The information that they collect ultimately benefits us. Products are made to more accurately represent what we, end users, do. 

 

Like it or not, at the end of the day the entire world is quickly becoming data orientated. Take the sport of baseball. 20-30 years ago, baseball was was a sport of player skill and finesse; a good manager was good but ultimately player talents made the difference. Nowadays, teams are increasingly reliant on complicated data called sabermetrics that can dictate how a team is run, and how players are chosen, all based on complicated stats and analysis. The bussiness world is no different. In order to better understand end users, massive data collection and analysis is key. It will continue to become increasingly prominent in and beyond technology, and you are ultimately better of embracing it than fighting it in the long term.

[Canada EH]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Well in that case you should also stop using a cell phone and unplug your ethernet cable because other places are tracking MUCH more sensitive information about you.

I have been thinking about buying a flip phone and disabling the GPS chip.

Then disconnecting and only using public wifi.

Perhaps pull a Unibomber style (without the violence) move and head on out to the woods, into a remote cabin.

Then I can wear a full east indian facial mask, with only my eyes showing, and wear very large shades.

 

[GoodBytes]

Too add to @M.Yurizaki,

Telemetry data is nothing new to Windows. It started back in Windows XP days. The only reason why people freak out now, is because the Privacy policy is now written in plain English, and put more at the forefront as it includes OneDrive, Bing, Groove Music, and other services into Windows 10. So now people notice and freak out, but really not new. If you use a Google devices (including Android phone), or Google service, as well as Chrome (even if you use incognito mode), Facebook, Nvidia GeForce drivers, Steam, amongst many others, all have telemetry data collection.

 

The idea behind telemetry data collection is that it allows the devs to see how people use their software, so that they can put improvement. All the collected data is passed through databases, which relationship and links are made and presented to the devs. This allows them to see how many people uses a certain features in their program, and can see how make it better. Or they can see if people do too many click for a popular option, so they move it more at the front for easier and faster (less clicks) access. And many things like this. Nothing is designed to make money on you, or identify you. HOWEVER..

 

However, they are services that are designed to make money on us, and this is services that includes additional tracking for this need. Google (search engine), Bing, Yahoo search, and more all many money on peoples collected data. This includes Chrome, Edge, Cortana, Google digital assistance's, etc. The data collected is not deisgned to id you directly per se, but it is rather to process the data and deliver to companies who are interested in buy it, so that other company can see them, can get data like: People of the age 16-35, of a certain demography, middle class and higher wants a $300 powerful gaming system, and companies can see how to do it, how to market it to make it successful, what people want and don't want, or expect from it. That is how you have.. say a PlayStation 4 when you get such data and not lose millions like Nintendo with the WiiU, where they didn't know who to market it to, what the consumer expect our of it, and so on. In other words, companies are willing to buy such data for a few millions, to not invest billions, only to end up with a flop, despite, perhaps, a great product, or idea.

 

That said, Windows 10 is the only Windows you can't fully disable telemetry data as you could in previous version of Windows (if you have even done it), and MacOS can be disabled. The option is presented the first time you start the OS.

[Delicieuxz]

Telemetry and data-collection avenues and amounts have increased greatly in Windows 10.

 

The only telemetry that originally existed in XP, to Windows 7, that I'm aware of, required a user to manually authorize information to be sent to Microsoft via a prompt that would appear on the screen. There was no background, or discrete telemetry or data-collection occurring.

 

 

With Windows 10, data that is collected is, amongst other things, compiled into reports, which are sold to interested parties (researchers, advertisers, government, businesses, etc). All data collected is associated with a unique system identifier, that references the machine and installation that any piece of data came from. However, the system identifiers are not included in the reports of compiled data that are sold to interested parties.

 

Data collected can include the readable contents of emails and documents, audible sound files, video recordings, etc. And while the updated and current Microsoft Privacy Statement only offers the example of collecting this data for the sake of passing it through Microsoft's servers so that people can use the relevant services, previous expressions for use of this data by Microsoft included mentioning that brief sections of audio, like 1 - 2 seconds, are collected and analysed. What they are analysed for, I don't think was mentioned. The point is, Microsoft's descriptions of how it uses the data they collect are by no means complete or thorough, but are only PR-friendly select examples of some of the ways that collected data is used.

 

 

There is some information in my signature about how to prevent Windows 10 telemetry and data collection. There are also tools which aim to make it easy for people to disable unwanted data-collection on their systems, such as O&O ShutUp10.

 

 

Here are some resources that discuss what Microsoft's data-collection entails, and some of how it is used. Note that these are not full explanations of everything Microsoft uses collected data for, but are only some general examples of how it is used. Also, Microsoft has a history of being dishonest, conniving, and manipulative, so that's something to keep in mind.

 

Windows 10 telemetry secrets: Where, when, and why Microsoft collects your data

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/netro/2015/09/09/windows-7-windows-8-and-windows-10-telemetry-updates-diagnostic-tracking/

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Information is used by teams within Microsoft to provide, improve, and personalize experiences, and for security, health, quality, and performance analysis.

 

An example of personalization is to create individually tailored in-product messages.

 

Microsoft doesn’t share organization-specific customer information with third parties, except at the customer’s direction or for the limited purposes described in the privacy statement. However, we do share business reports with partners that include aggregated, anonymous telemetry information. Decisions to share info are made by an internal team that includes privacy, legal, and data management professionals.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/faq.aspx

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Does Microsoft share my information with anyone?
Yes, we do share your information in certain cases. We’ve detailed when we share data in the Microsoft Privacy Statement. Broadly, we share your personal data with your consent or as necessary to complete any transaction or provide any service you have requested or authorised. We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries, with vendors working on our behalf, when required by law or to respond to legal process, to protect our customers, to protect lives, to maintain the security of our services and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft.

 

[maria2244]

do you have a smart phone ? iPhone for example

 

then yes people on power khnow where are you now exactly .

 

so windows 10 is not that bad .

[Sintezza]

2 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

Telemetry and data-collection avenues and amounts have increased greatly in Windows 10.

 

The only telemetry that originally existed in XP, to Windows 7, that I'm aware of, required a user to manually authorize information to be sent to Microsoft via a prompt that would appear on the screen. There was no background, or discrete telemetry or data-collection occurring.

 

 

With Windows 10, data that is collected is, amongst other things, compiled into reports, which are sold to interested parties (researchers, advertisers, government, businesses, etc). All data collected is associated with a unique system identifier, that references the machine and installation that any piece of data came from. However, the system identifiers are not included in the reports of compiled data that are sold to interested parties.

 

Data collected can include the readable contents of emails and documents, audible sound files, video recordings, etc. And while the updated and current Microsoft Privacy Statement only offers the example of collecting this data for the sake of passing it through Microsoft's servers so that people can use the relevant services, previous expressions for use of this data by Microsoft included mentioning that brief sections of audio, like 1 - 2 seconds, are collected and analysed. What they are analysed for, I don't think was mentioned. The point is, Microsoft's descriptions of how it uses the data they collect are by no means complete or thorough, but are only PR-friendly select examples of some of the ways that collected data is used.

 

 

There is some information in my signature about how to prevent Windows 10 telemetry and data collection. There are also tools which aim to make it easy for people to disable unwanted data-collection on their systems, such as O&O ShutUp10.

 

 

Here are some resources that discuss what Microsoft's data-collection entails, and some of how it is used. Note that these are not full explanations of everything Microsoft uses collected data for, but are only some general examples of how it is used. Also, Microsoft has a history of being dishonest, conniving, and manipulative, so that's something to keep in mind.

 

Windows 10 telemetry secrets: Where, when, and why Microsoft collects your data

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/netro/2015/09/09/windows-7-windows-8-and-windows-10-telemetry-updates-diagnostic-tracking/

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/faq.aspx

 

 

Yeah unfortunatly its not just telemetry and error diagnostics we talk about.

But they also collect private data from you.

There also is a active keylogger build in Windows10.

So they technically log every single key you stroke on your machine.

This includes passwords etc.

How can this not be bad, and generally accepted by a user is beyond me.

 

Windows10 is just a big pile of shit.

I trully cannot believe that there are people out there who still defending it.

Especialy not after gazillion tests and articles have pointed out how trully bad it is.

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

2 hours ago, Sintezza said:

But they also collect private data from you.

There also is a active keylogger build in Windows10.

So they technically log every single key you stroke on your machine.

This includes passwords etc.

[citation needed]

[Canada EH]

How do we turn off Telemetry data?

[GoodBytes]

52 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

How do we turn off Telemetry data?

Start > Settings > Privacy

 

[Sintezza]

5 hours ago, Canada EH said:

How do we turn off Telemetry data?

 

You can´t.

 

Flipping those switches dont realy do much.

Blocking MS tracking domains to the hostfile doesnt do anything either.

Since Microsoft owns a gazillion tracking domains.

Good luck blocking them all.

And allot of that stuff is on kernel level.

Tools like Antibeacon and such are also totaly useless.

BUt yeah AAA game players dont realy have much choice in the end.

Allthough Linux gaming is growing.

[Delicieuxz]

7 hours ago, Canada EH said:

How do we turn off Telemetry data?

The limited options in Start > Settings > Privacy do not turn off all Windows 10 data-collection. To more thoroughly stop telemetry and data-collection, follow the instructions in the link in my signature, or the guide it links to, here: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/

 

Also, run something like Spybot Anti-Beacon, or O&O ShutUp10.