Is this firewire thing correct?

[Xanthe_2871]

This card here says it has a single internal firewire connector:

 

 

...and I think it's this part here:

 

So if I bought this, could I use it with the connector on the card above, effectively adding one more firewire port without a second PCIe card?

 

If not, how could I make use of this internal firewire connection? 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Thats a usb, not a firewire.

 

Firewire looks just like the audio port, so missing pin is the second one in. 

 

If you want more firewire, you can use hubs.

[Xanthe_2871]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats a usb, not a firewire.

 

Firewire looks just like the audio port, so missing pin is the second one in. 

 

If you want more firewire, you can use hubs.

Oh. Then how can I take advantage of this internal firewire connection? 

[Randomguy1911]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

 

Thats a usb, not a firewire.

 

It a 1394 firewire header 

 

http://www.frontx.com/cpx105_2.html

[paddy-stone]

6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats a usb, not a firewire.

 

Firewire looks just like the audio port, so missing pin is the second one in. 

 

If you want more firewire, you can use hubs.

I don't know if you're correct with that reasoning, just found this as I couldn't be arsed to look at my firewire header..

[Xanthe_2871]

1 minute ago, Randomguy1911 said:

It a 1394 firewire header 

 

http://www.frontx.com/cpx105_2.html

I'm sorry, but hareware is not my area! Could this part work with that 1394 header?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-2-Port-USB-2-0-1-Port-Firewire-1394-rear-panel-Header-Bracket-New-OEM-/151596809430?hash=item234bdfbcd6:g:AP0AAOSwPYZU5~Xs

[Enderman]

6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats a usb, not a firewire.

 

Firewire looks just like the audio port, so missing pin is the second one in. 

 

If you want more firewire, you can use hubs.

No, that is an internal firewire header. OP is correct.

[Randomguy1911]

2 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Could this part work with that 1394 header?

the card you are trying to buy already has external connectors.

why do you need another slot with ports?

do you have a case with a leftover firewire port and no connector? 

 

[Xanthe_2871]

Just now, Randomguy1911 said:

the card you are trying to buy already has external connectors.

why do you need another slot with ports?

do you have a case with a leftover firewire port and no connector? 

[PHOTO]

No, but my case can fit one more slot under this card and the completionist in me wants to see all panels have a port of some kind. 

 

I suppose I could always add more USB ports since my USB 3.0 PCIe card has an open USB 3.0 header, but I already have 21 USB ports in total, seems kinda overkill. 

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, Randomguy1911 said:

the card you are trying to buy already has external connectors.

why do you need another slot with ports?

do you have a case with a leftover firewire port and no connector? 

 

 

Is it not obvious that he wants another firewire port in addition to the ones already on the card?

[Randomguy1911]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Is it not obvious that he wants another firewire port in addition to the ones already on the card?

 

2 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

No, but my case can fit one more slot under this card and the completionist in me wants to see all panels have a port of some kind.

@OP just said, he just wants ports. maximum number of them. Just for the sake of having them.

[Naeaes]

In conclusion, the header you're talking about, OP, is Firewire and the cable you intended to use would work.

 

Since you're in it for completion, you should know that there's a third kind of external Firewire. It's called a 4-pin. It's the slowest of the lot and only singe-direction like the 6-pin but it was very common in laptops and mobile devices. You can always adapt form 6-pin or even the 9-pin to 4-pin (bottlenecking the speed to the 400Mbps the 4-pin allows) but since your card already has the 6-pin and the 9-pin connectors, you may want to get a 4-pin for the added part. Then you'd have them all!

Sadly my google-fu is way off now. I can't find a link to the exact thing I'm talking about but it's the tiny connector you see here.

 

Then again, this is vintage tech. When are you ever going to need it...

[Xanthe_2871]

1 minute ago, Naeaes said:

In conclusion, the header you're talking about, OP, is Firewire and the cable you intended to use would work.

 

Since you're in it for completion, you should know that there's a third kind of external Firewire. It's called a 4-pin. It's the slowest of the lot and only singe-direction like the 6-pin but it was very common in laptops and mobile devices. You can always adapt form 6-pin or even the 9-pin to 4-pin (bottlenecking the speed to the 400Mbps the 4-pin allows) but since your card already has the 6-pin and the 9-pin connectors, you may want to get a 4-pin for the added part. Then you'd have them all!

Sadly my google-fu is way off now. I can't find a link to the exact thing I'm talking about but it's the tiny connector you see here.

 

Then again, this is vintage tech. When are you ever going to need it...

Oh, very interesting! Maybe I'll do that! I could use a USB 3.0 to 2.0 header adapter and have one slot give me two USBs and a 4 pin legacy FireWire! I like that idea.

[Xanthe_2871]

3 minutes ago, Naeaes said:

In conclusion, the header you're talking about, OP, is Firewire and the cable you intended to use would work.

 

Since you're in it for completion, you should know that there's a third kind of external Firewire. It's called a 4-pin. It's the slowest of the lot and only singe-direction like the 6-pin but it was very common in laptops and mobile devices. You can always adapt form 6-pin or even the 9-pin to 4-pin (bottlenecking the speed to the 400Mbps the 4-pin allows) but since your card already has the 6-pin and the 9-pin connectors, you may want to get a 4-pin for the added part. Then you'd have them all!

Sadly my google-fu is way off now. I can't find a link to the exact thing I'm talking about but it's the tiny connector you see here.

 

Then again, this is vintage tech. When are you ever going to need it...

I can't seem to find one of those for sale on eBay or Amazon.

[corrado33]

OP: Firewire is chainable. You never really need MORE firewire ports, you simply connect firewire devices to each other. That's why almost every firewire device has at least 2 firewire ports. 

 

But if you simply want to add more wires to your computer, then yes, that's the internal firewire header. 

 

EDIT: Also, firewire has since been outperformed by usb 3.0. TECHNICALLY usb 2.0 was faster on paper, but not practically. Firewire had consistently faster transfer speeds than usb 2.0, despite usb 2.0 having the higher speeds in the datasheets.

 

What I'm trying to say is that Firewire is dead and you will only ever need one port if you want to remain backwards compatible with older hardware. 

[Xanthe_2871]

7 hours ago, corrado33 said:

OP: Firewire is chainable. You never really need MORE firewire ports, you simply connect firewire devices to each other. That's why almost every firewire device has at least 2 firewire ports. 

 

But if you simply want to add more wires to your computer, then yes, that's the internal firewire header. 

 

EDIT: Also, firewire has since been outperformed by usb 3.0. TECHNICALLY usb 2.0 was faster on paper, but not practically. Firewire had consistently faster transfer speeds than usb 2.0, despite usb 2.0 having the higher speeds in the datasheets.

 

What I'm trying to say is that Firewire is dead and you will only ever need one port if you want to remain backwards compatible with older hardware. 

I appreciate all that, but I'm really just adding another port because it would be cool, and I can.