New MacBook "Pro" 2016

[L0veless]

WTF was that Apple?

 

No really, what the actual fuck? NOTHING about this new MacBook Pro is actually interesting let alone Pro. I don't care about your "courage" Apple, 0 USB A is simply stupid in 2016. It's also stupid in 2017 and probably in 2018. Your "bravery" comes at a big cost : functionality. I LOVE the idea of 4 TB3 (I don't know what magic they're using for the PCIE lanes).  But without a USB A port it's just too much of a sacrifice. You'll need a dongle to use a regular freaking USB drive. Forget using your awesome non-bluetooth mouse. Oh, you have an SD card ? That's nice mate, but it doesn't fit in our courageous laptop sorry :D.

 

After yesterday's Microsoft event I can almost imagine :

"You guys want a touchscreen? We heard you! Here is a touch...bar. Yeah! Why make the entire screen tactile when you can just have a gimmicky OLED bar that will autocorrect because as a the complete retard you are, you obviously type looking at your keyboard !"

Just what is wrong with you Apple?

 

Specs are still standard at best. AMD GPU. Even with a lower end GPU It'll throttle like a a freaking Blade in that chassis. But hey we shaved off a millimetter W00T!

 

I'm no Apple hater. I really liked my 15" Retina MBP from 2015 even with its dated specs. But this is simply stupid.

 

EDIT: LOL no MagSafe, they even removed the one thing they invented and did 100% perfect.

[Guest]

They do that so they can sell adapters for more money

[L0veless]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

They do that so they can sell adapters for more money

I would be kinda ok with 3 USB C+1 USB A. Still not ideal (2 C 2 A would be the sweet spot) but useable. This thing is not. Oh, no HDMI port either lol so yeah this product is so stupid I don't see who would consider it the ideal device. Not pros, obviously. Not students, because there is so much better out there like an XPS 13 that actually has USB A ports. Not gamers because lol specs, lol MacOS. Not artists because the freaking Surface lineup exists.

 

This thing has no target. Any company other than Apple selling this would be called crazy.

[ShadowCaptain]

5 minutes ago, L0veless said:

SNIP

 

They are all USB C ports too, and going forwards most things will be USB C or can be adapted to whatever the hell you want

 

plus you can do USB C to HDMI or whatever else you want etc

 

[L0veless]

Just now, ShadowCaptain said:

 

They are all USB C ports too, and going forwards most things will be USB C

 

plus you can do USB C to HDMI or whatever else you want etc

Going forward, as in in a few years and by then, this laptop will be old and outdated.

 

Yes, you can. With a freaking adapter. Using 95% of external devices require a dongle with this thing. It's simply stupid and at the opposite of what a "Pro" laptop should be: functional! 

[ShadowCaptain]

Just now, L0veless said:

Going forward, as in in a few years and by then, this laptop will be old and outdated.

 

Yes, you can. With a freaking adapter. Using 95% of external devices require a dongle with this thing. It's simply stupid and at the opposite of what a "Pro" laptop should be: functional! 

 

Ive been using gaming laptops for years and its rare I EVER plug anything into the USB ports, and if I do, its when docked at home with a display and a hub

 

so I just connect everything to the USB ports on my screen and connect it to my macbook with one cable. sorted

 

on the road just carry a single USB adapter in your bag JUST in case, or buy a new USB C memory stick etc

 

[Dackzy]

Because they give zero fucks, they know that people are buying their shit no matter what, so why not do what the fuck they want to do.

 

I am also willing to bet that you cannot use all the TB3 ports at the same time.

 

The thing that is the most stupid shit ever is that they removed the F row, they totally didn't have space for that little OLED bar above the F keys, oh wait they did.

 

Things they should have done.

- Stopped using cheap shitty glue

- Better cooling, so they don't thermal throttle right after you open a couple of things.

- New design, come on they have looked the same for years now

- Better keyboard, yeah I just said that they need to upgrade their keyboard, DEAL WITH IT.

- Matte screen, not only this glossy shit

- Real right and left click buttons would be neat

- Make them more durable 

 

Just make them as good as Elitebooks, Latitudes and ThinkPads.

 

I only respect macbooks in one area and that is video editing, but that is more about Apple getting their software optimized insanely well

[Julian5]

22 minutes ago, L0veless said:

WTF was that Apple?

 

No really, what the actual fuck? NOTHING about this new MacBook Pro is actually interesting let alone Pro. I don't care about your "courage" Apple, 0 USB A is simply stupid in 2016. It's also stupid in 2017 and probably in 2018. Your "bravery" comes at a big cost : functionality. I LOVE the idea of 4 TB3 (I don't know what magic they're using for the PCIE lanes).  But without a USB A port it's just too much of a sacrifice. You'll need a dongle to use a regular freaking USB drive. Forget using your awesome non-bluetooth mouse. Oh, you have an SD card ? That's nice mate, but it doesn't fit in our courageous laptop sorry :D.

 

After yesterday's Microsoft event I can almost imagine :

"You guys want a touchscreen? We heard you! Here is a touch...bar. Yeah! Why make the entire screen tactile when you can just have a gimmicky OLED bar that will autocorrect because as a the complete retard you are, you obviously type looking at your keyboard !"

Just what is wrong with you Apple?

 

Specs are still standard at best. AMD GPU. Even with a lower end GPU It'll throttle like a a freaking Blade in that chassis. But hey we shaved off a millimetter W00T!

 

I'm no Apple hater. I really liked my 15" Retina MBP from 2015 even with its dated specs. But this is simply stupid.

 

EDIT: LOL no MagSafe, they even removed the one thing they invented and did 100% perfect.

a person I do lots of IT projects with and work with was actually workign at apple spain a couple years ago and he always hated apple xD, since the beggining apple has wanted to made a closed system and very proprietary, steve and wozniak argued over that since steve didnt want anything to be user servicable. its just a shame they are bringing it to such an extreme limit. Loved the Old macbooks and Macbok airs for studying and stuff but these new macbooks and proprietary iphones are just nonesense

[L0veless]

12 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

 

Ive been using gaming laptops for years and its rare I EVER plug anything into the USB ports, and if I do, its when docked at home with a display and a hub

 

so I just connect everything to the USB ports on my screen and connect it to my macbook with one cable. sorted

 

on the road just carry a single USB adapter in your bag JUST in case, or buy a new USB C memory stick etc

 

 

I'm a gamer, using both a desktop and laptop, and I use the USB ports on my laptop (XPS 15) daily. For sharing files with my coworkers through a USB 3 drive, for pluging in my mouse that I use for both games and content creation (fuck yeah macros and extra mouse buttons), mostly. I can't do both with this new laptop. I need dongles or to buy new peripherals that I wouldn't be able to use in 95% of current computers, probably 80% next year. If I get a USB C drive great, but how am I going to share it with my coworkers if they don't have a high end laptop with a USB C port?

 

In 5 years USB C might be the norm but it's just not right now. Adding at least a single USB A port would save these laptops but no, Apple went the "we're different" way and fucked up. If at least, they had revolutionary features then I might see these as "way ahead of their time" machines, but nope. Where microsoft gives you the best touchscreens on laptops/desktops ever, Apple gives you the most gimmicky touchbar ever. I used to laugh at the guys saying Apple died with Jobs but if there's one thing that could give some credit to this idea, it's this MBP lineup.

[ShadowCaptain]

1 minute ago, L0veless said:

SNIP

Put a USB C to USB A adapter in your bag, for the times you need to do that, its like a tiny $10 adapter

 

or just AIRDROP to your colleagues etc

 

there are great wireless mice like the logitech mx master that are awesome for macros and content creation and are fine for a bit of laptop gaming on the go, the macbooks are shit for gaming anyway

 

the touchbar looks awesome tbh, would help so much in lightroom and premiere

 

[Julian5]

2 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

Put a USB C to USB A adapter in your bag, for the times you need to do that, its like a tiny $10 adapter

 

or just AIRDROP to your colleagues etc

 

there are great wireless mice like the logitech mx master that are awesome for macros and content creation and are fine for a bit of laptop gaming on the go, the macbooks are shit for gaming anyway

 

the touchbar looks awesome tbh, would help so much in lightroom and premiere

 

airdop relies on the network and  why add an extra adapter when you can just add it to the macbook, I see whta they wanna do but its not practical.

[Miller1218]

All I want is a REAL GPU, please apple a REAL GPU FOR ONCE.

"sees AMD Pro 460 with 4gb of vram, cries to sleep"

[Scruffy90]

Since people stopped breaking screens on their macbooks ipads and iphones, apples new bread and butter has become accessories. Ones that easily break or can be easily lost. 

[ShadowCaptain]

Just now, Miller1218 said:

All I want is a REAL GPU, please apple a REAL GPU FOR ONCE.

"sees AMD Pro 460 with 4gb of vram, cries to sleep"

wonder how they benchmark

 

Just now, Scruffy90 said:

Since people stopped breaking screens on their macbooks ipads and iphones, apples new bread and butter has become accessories. Ones that easily break or can be easily lost. 

its USB C / thunderbolt so you can just buy 3rd party shit anyway

 

also means all the peripheral makers can make money making new products with new USB C connectors - pushing the industry and making everyone more money

[Julian5]

Just now, ShadowCaptain said:

wonder how they benchmark

 

its USB C / thunderbolt so you can just buy 3rd party shit anyway

 

also means all the peripheral makers can make money making new products with new USB C connectors - pushing the industry and making everyone more money

yeah but we have to spend more money, the USB C move is making tons fo people not buy macbooks and tons of apple slaves buy them.

[L0veless]

Just now, ShadowCaptain said:

Put a USB C to USB A adapter in your bag, for the times you need to do that, its like a tiny $10 adapter

 

or just AIRDROP to your colleagues etc

 

there are great wireless mice like the logitech mx master that are awesome for macros and content creation and are fine for a bit of laptop gaming on the go, the macbooks are shit for gaming anyway

 

the touchbar looks awesome tbh, would help so much in lightroom and premiere

 

 

These are very valid solutions, but why should I do all that? These are premium laptops. The very latest premium laptops to be released. Supposed to be aimed at Pros. So why are they taking two steps back in functionality and ergonomy with dongles? Why do I need to change all my peripherals just to fit these machines? Apple got it backward, the laptops are the ones supposed to be better at fitting me, not the opposite! It's almost a if Apple thinks you need to deserve using these.

 

This touch bar would be great... if crazy good touchscreens like the Surface lineup has didn't exist. F keys are also another sacrifice Apple made to the god of change.

[ShadowCaptain]

Just now, Julian5 said:

yeah but we have to spend more money, the USB C move is making tons fo people not buy macbooks and tons of apple slaves buy them.

 

the industry HAS to move forwards eventually

 

i doubt somebody seriously interested in a macbook would not buy it because its not got old USB ports

 

you already have to spend £2600 for a top spec 15" a new £30 mouse wont kill me

[Julian5]

I have friends which have not bought the macbook due to that.

 

I guess you do have a point with wireless accesories though

[Scruffy90]

3 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

wonder how they benchmark

 

its USB C / thunderbolt so you can just buy 3rd party shit anyway

 

also means all the peripheral makers can make money making new products with new USB C connectors - pushing the industry and making everyone more money

Your second point is valid, but it's going to be a costly transition for folks who are still on usb type a devices. I honestly think they should've left at least 1 type a port. I carry adapters now and having to carry more adapters when everyone transitions to usb c is going to suck

[ShadowCaptain]

Just now, L0veless said:

SNIP

 

I must be the only excited about the new ports then

 

the F keys are there if you hold the function button, but they arent needed since we have new context sentitive buttons which seem 20x better and more intuituve

[BuckGup]

Apple has really lost their priorities. The iPhone is the only thing keeping them alive

[Miller1218]

6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Apple has really lost their priorities. The iPhone is the only thing keeping them alive

Sadly, Its keeping them more than alive

[Scruffy90]

8 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Apple has really lost their priorities. The iPhone is the only thing keeping them alive

Nope. Accessories are. I think theyre losing money every quarter with the iphone now.

 

10 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

 

I must be the only excited about the new ports then

 

the F keys are there if you hold the function button, but they arent needed since we have new context sentitive buttons which seem 20x better and more intuituve

I think everyones excited about TB3 over USB C, but I think no one was excited about USB C only. I do like the concept of the touch bar, but I feel like the idea made its appearance too late.

[Miller1218]

Ok, guys we get that you hate it, but would you look past the IO, if it had good cooling and better specs

 

[L0veless]

3 minutes ago, Miller1218 said:

Ok, guys we get that you hate it, but would you look past the IO, if it had good cooling and better specs

 

Disregarding the IO, with good cooling and a good GPU (both of which it probably doesn't have because physics) it would be a great laptop. The design is still  nice, the battery life will be godly and the screen should be great as well.