Nvidia and AMD GPU in same system

[akosin]

Hey guys,

I have an R9 390 for gaming but I've been having to do a lot of video rendering lately and the software that I use can be accelerated with CUDA.  Can I put another GPU (Nvidia) in my system and only use it for cuda acceleration?  And If i can, what card would benefit me?  I may be able to get ahold of a used 660 or 670.  Would a GT 730 give me any benefit?

 

System Specs:

i7-4790K

16 GB RAM

R9 390 8GB

hella storage

 

Thanks guys!!!

[AdamBGames]

scrap the gt 730 and get the gtx 660, although CUDA acceleration wouldn't impact the performance much anyway

[ALwin]

You shouldn't mix them, their drivers don't really play well together.

 

And the OpenCL acceleration from the 390 can drive your NLE.

[Stagea]

Just now, AdamBGames said:

scrap the gt 730 and get the gtx 660, although CUDA acceleration wouldn't impact the performance much anyway

I guess that'd depend on his application. Some apps do benefit from it quite a bit.

[akosin]

Well I wouldn't be gaming on the nvidia card, I'd basically be using it as a cheapo Tesla card.  Will CUDA acceleration on the 660 speed up my workflow?

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, ALwin said:

You shouldn't mix them, their drivers don't really play well together.

 

And the OpenCL acceleration from the 390 can drive your NLE.

Are you sure? My 290 and 750Ti have been completely fine, even through drive updates

[FizzyGreen]

Does a GT 730 even have CUDA?

 

As far as i know, from personal expierience, the GT 730 isn't that strong of a graphics chip. Yes, it surely is a good one for Minecraft or TF2.

 

But compared to the R9 390, according to videocardbenchmark score, they are 6100 points apart, with the 730 being about 900 and the R9 390 about 7100.

 

 

So, i guess you could use it for something like AMD Physics or something? I guess you can't, but even if you could, it wouldn't be that great.

[ALwin]

Just now, TheRandomness said:

Are you sure? My 290 and 750Ti have been completely fine, even through drive updates

I'm not 100% sure, I've just heard people saying they've had issues.

[akosin]

Just now, FizzyGreen said:

Does a GT 730 even have CUDA?

 

As far as i know, from personal expierience, the GT 730 isn't that strong of a graphics chip. Yes, it surely is a good one for Minecraft or TF2.

 

But compared to the R9 390, according to videocardbenchmark score, they are 6100 points apart, with the 730 being about 900 and the R9 390 about 7100.

 

 

So, i guess you could use it for something like AMD Physics or something? I guess you can't, but even if you could, it wouldn't be that great.

I'd only be using CUDA acceleration since AMD's APP doesn't work like at all

[akosin]

And does anyone have any recommendations on applications to convert video files from FLV to MP4 that work really well with CUDA?

[FizzyGreen]

4 minutes ago, akosin said:

I'd only be using CUDA acceleration since AMD's APP doesn't work like at all

You could do that. Although, the only benefit you would be getting is to have CUDA at all. And if you need it to render something with CUDA then that card unfortunately isn't going to be of much help, because it's pretty weak for such a task. Considering that CUDA acceleration doesn't even give me any benefit in Primiere Pro with my GTX 970. But if you need it for something like blender, CUDA might be useful. Though, still, that GPU would be too weak, to give you any signifficant boost, i believe.

[manikyath]

11 minutes ago, ALwin said:

You shouldn't mix them, their drivers don't really play well together.

you were saying?

 

i have two thing to add to this picture:

- the HD5770 isnt in my system anymore, mostly because it sounds like a jet engine and i've had to replace the cooler 3 times since the making of this picture.

- while both amd and nvidia are present, and even intel (for which by the way i also have the drivers installed, because quicksync) i unfortunately am not enough of a baller to waste money on a matrox card

[Mortis Angelus]

28 minutes ago, akosin said:

Hey guys,

I have an R9 390 for gaming but I've been having to do a lot of video rendering lately and the software that I use can be accelerated with CUDA.  Can I put another GPU (Nvidia) in my system and only use it for cuda acceleration?  And If i can, what card would benefit me?  I may be able to get ahold of a used 660 or 670.  Would a GT 730 give me any benefit?

Short answer: No. No benefit. Unless you have a GTX 970 or better, you are better off using your R9 390 for OpenCL-aided encoding. So ditch your 730 or sell it, and overclock your 390 instead to get the most out of the card.

 

Off-topic question: why is the older R9 290 performing better than a 390X?

[akosin]

1 minute ago, Mortis Angelus said:

Short answer: No. No benefit. Unless you have a GTX 970 or better, you are better off using your R9 390 for OpenCL-aided encoding. So ditch your 730 or sell it, and overclock your 390 instead to get the most out of the card.

 

Off-topic question: why is the older R9 290 performing better than a 390X?

What software uses Open-CL aided encoding?

[Mortis Angelus]

8 minutes ago, akosin said:

What software uses Open-CL aided encoding?

Did you watch the video?

 

Also, you didnt tell us which software you were using, but since you talked about CUDA-usage I assumed we were talking Adobe software.

[akosin]

Just now, Mortis Angelus said:

Did you watch the video?

 

Also, you didnt tell us which software you were using, but since you talked about CUDA-usage I assumed we were talking Adobe software.

I was trying to switch to Adobe Media Encoder CC but I get an error while importing an FLV file

[Mortis Angelus]

11 minutes ago, akosin said:

I was trying to switch to Adobe Media Encoder CC but I get an error while importing an FLV file

Adobe do not support .flv any more. Either start recording in mp4 or use Handbrake for converting your video files.

 

 

So record your gameplay in mp4 from now on to skip this process. 

[Prysin]

43 minutes ago, akosin said:

Hey guys,

I have an R9 390 for gaming but I've been having to do a lot of video rendering lately and the software that I use can be accelerated with CUDA.  Can I put another GPU (Nvidia) in my system and only use it for cuda acceleration?  And If i can, what card would benefit me?  I may be able to get ahold of a used 660 or 670.  Would a GT 730 give me any benefit?

 

System Specs:

i7-4790K

16 GB RAM

R9 390 8GB

hella storage

 

Thanks guys!!!

yes you could make it work. But from personal experience from doin so, there is a very high chance you will run into fucked up weird issues.

[Mortis Angelus]

44 minutes ago, akosin said:

I'd only be using CUDA acceleration since AMD's APP doesn't work like at all

 

8 minutes ago, Prysin said:

yes you could make it work. But from personal experience from doin so, there is a very high chance you will run into fucked up weird issues.

But unless he uses a Gtx 970 or better (or RX 470 and better) he wont see any benefit over his R9 390

[Prysin]

Just now, Mortis Angelus said:

 

But unless he uses a Gtx 970 or better (or RX 470 and better) he wont see any benefit over his R9 390

depends on the software.

 

If he uses Sony Vegas, then even a Titan X Pascal wont beat a R9 390. Because Sony Vegas is retardedly well optimized for AMD.

[System Error Message]

Actually its good to mix them. I've used openCL on a system with intel, AMD and nvidia GPUs. If you are coding you can run code on each of them seperately. By having all 3 of them you will have a total of 4 processors that are openCL capable and can run what they do best. nvidia refuses to support any newer openCL versions so they only support openCL 1.1

[Mortis Angelus]

21 minutes ago, Prysin said:

depends on the software.

 

If he uses Sony Vegas, then even a Titan X Pascal wont beat a R9 390. Because Sony Vegas is retardedly well optimized for AMD.

He is using Adobe media encoder cc, so my quess is that he is using Adobe CC. I think sony vegas supports flv, but I am not sure.

 

I have provided him with all the tools and information he would need for now to get things going.

 

EDIT: Sony Vegas is not natively supporting flv either. I guess everyone hates flash.

[Prysin]

2 minutes ago, Mortis Angelus said:

He is using Adobe media encoder cc, so my quess is that he is using Adobe CC. I think sony vegas supports flv, but I am not sure.

 

I have provided him with all the tools and information he would need for now to get things going.

well i can test how well a 295x2 does in CC. as i have the full software suite.

[ALwin]

46 minutes ago, manikyath said:

you were saying?

I'm basing my comment on what others have said about their attempts having problems.  I read that DX12 should allow mixing of different manufacturer cards.  I don't have an AMD and nVidia GPU to test it out.

[pyrojoe34]

1 hour ago, FizzyGreen said:

Does a GT 730 even have CUDA?

 

As far as i know, from personal expierience, the GT 730 isn't that strong of a graphics chip. Yes, it surely is a good one for Minecraft or TF2.

 

But compared to the R9 390, according to videocardbenchmark score, they are 6100 points apart, with the 730 being about 900 and the R9 390 about 7100.

 

 

So, i guess you could use it for something like AMD Physics or something? I guess you can't, but even if you could, it wouldn't be that great.

 

1 hour ago, akosin said:

Hey guys,

I have an R9 390 for gaming but I've been having to do a lot of video rendering lately and the software that I use can be accelerated with CUDA.  Can I put another GPU (Nvidia) in my system and only use it for cuda acceleration?  And If i can, what card would benefit me?  I may be able to get ahold of a used 660 or 670.  Would a GT 730 give me any benefit?

 

System Specs:

i7-4790K

16 GB RAM

R9 390 8GB

hella storage

 

Thanks guys!!!

GT 730 only has 96  or 384 (depending on the version) CUDA cores, not at all worth and and won't make a noticeable difference. Just hold out for a higher end GPU with at least 1000 cores (more is better). My GTX980 cuts Premiere render times in half but that has 2048 cores.