tn vs ips

[KEEMSTAR]

should the ips glow and backlight bleed scare me away from these types of panels because i'm edging more towards tn at the moment because of that.

[InsertName]

7 minutes ago, KEEMSTAR said:

should the ips glow and backlight bleed scare me away from these types of panels because i'm edging more towards tn at the moment because of that.

IPS FTW!

[Enderman]

ips

[Glenwing]

1 hour ago, KEEMSTAR said:

should the ips glow and backlight bleed scare me away from these types of panels because i'm edging more towards tn at the moment because of that.

All LCDs have backlight bleed, I'm not sure where people got the idea that it's something specific to IPS panels.

[Curufinwe_wins]

21 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

All LCDs have backlight bleed, I'm not sure where people got the idea that it's something specific to IPS panels.

IPS glow is a specific phenomena (at least in the magnetude). Since TN panels actively "shut" pixels while blackened they do not have the glow leakage effects to anywhere near the extent IPS panels do (which passively default black, and can allow significant off-angle light leakage, which is what ips glow is btw).

 

It cannot be denied the lighting uniformity is worse on angle with modern IPS panels than modern TN panels, but most of the time I'd argue it isn't a big deal, and it will be still a huge upgrade for anyone who is using older monitors.

 

The biggest reason for IPS though is off angle color accuracy (which could not be much worse for TN panels, while IPS is still better than VA and AMOLED in this regard). 

 

I would highly recommend IPS panels every time.

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies.htm

[Glenwing]

16 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

IPS glow is a specific phenomena (at least in the magnetude). Since TN panels actively "shut" pixels while blackened they do not have the glow leakage effects to anywhere near the extent IPS panels do (which passively default black, and can allow significant off-angle light leakage, which is what ips glow is btw).

I am aware of what IPS glow is, I was talking about backlight bleed, which is not dependent on panel type.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, Glenwing said:

I am aware of what IPS glow is, I was talking about backlight bleed, which is not dependent on panel type.

Sure, but it's important to note that when most people talk about blb with IPS panels they explicitly mean IPS glow (which is a similar enough phenomena that I can't honestly expect a random person to know the difference). And as such I wouldn't even bother pointing out blb is with everything unless you want to explain ips glow because then you will just confuse people more.

[Glenwing]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

Sure, but it's important to note that when most people talk about blb with IPS panels they explicitly mean IPS glow (which is a similar enough phenomena that I can't honestly expect a random person to know the difference). And as such I wouldn't even bother pointing out blb is with everything unless you want to explain ips glow because then you will just confuse people more.

The OP mentioned IPS glow and backlight bleed separately, so I spoke in that context.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, Glenwing said:

The OP mentioned IPS glow and backlight bleed separately, so I spoke in that context.

But then ignored ips glow entirely (which often gives the impression that light bleeding in dark scenes isn't an issue with any ips panels.) 

 

Ehh it doesn't matter, I just wanted to clarify to the OP a bit and defacto quoted you in the comment.

[Hunched]

VA > IPS > TN

Samsung C24FG70 is my next monitor, releases in October.

[Nosaer]

I would say most... but atm AUO ( AU optronics ) is the only company that makes 165 Hz 4ms IPS 1440p panels....

 

with that being said though various vendors get slighty different models of the same panel... ( asus, acer, benQ ) they all ultimately pretty much the same and suffer from common defects.

 

things that some people complain about ( IPS glow ) is limitation a inherent in the technology and shouldn't be of concern, panel uniformity might be an issue but quality panels can mitigate this. 

 

The biggest problems atm with AUO IPS 165hz 4m 1440p panels is the large majority of them suffer from back light bleed, ( undesirable light literately bleeding through the screen, not to be confused with IPS glow ).  if one has seen quality IPS panels then one would understand the defects that these panels suffer from are abnormal and undesirable.  My advice to you is go to a store like best buy or a computer store like apple and look at an IPS screen, then look at a PG279Q or a XB271HU and black light bleed will be easily noticeable.

 

many people defend the panels because.... it's our only current option for IPS with low latency, and in some cases one can acquire a panel with minimal backlight bleed, but in the large majority of cases people spend a rather large amount of money for a gaming monitor that is a sub par panel.

 

you can either wait until the market comes out with faster quality VA/IPS panels or gamble until you get a quality unit. 

 

or go TN.... which honestly compared to the IPS panels are similar as far as appearance... really if anyone has ever seen these side by side the AUO IPS panels are not really all that great, the contrast ratio and color gamut is pretty mediocre compared to stuff like dell ultra sharps and the like.

 

heres a video of a PG278Q(TN) compared side by side to a PG279Q (IPS)

 

Just so people know... a lot of the high end gaming panels are made by AUO

[Hunched]

All IPS and TN panels have around 1000:1 contrast, it's only VA and OLED that are superior with contrast.

[Mark77]

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VA > IPS > TN

 

One big downside of VA is text performance is horrible. 

[Hunched]

Just now, Mark77 said:

 

One big downside of VA is text performance is horrible. 

I don't notice text to be any worse than anything else, I've never even heard of this being a downside to VA before either.

[Nosaer]

4 hours ago, Hunched said:

All IPS and TN panels have around 1000:1 contrast, it's only VA and OLED that are superior with contrast.

a company may advertise a 1000:1 contrast ratio, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's what you'll discover if measured 

[Hunched]

18 minutes ago, Nosaer said:

a company may advertise a 1000:1 contrast ratio, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's what you'll discover if measured 

That's why I said around. It's usually 800:1-1200:1 

[No]

i HavE IPS!

[Nosaer]

1 minute ago, Hunched said:

That's why I said around

oh sorry lol, I had said that some of the AUO high end panels were mediocre compared to some of the quality IPS panels in contrast ratio, color gamut,  and I thought you were correcting that statement.  which the AOU panels do usually measure lower, a big deal considering the premium people are paying for the monitors.