CPU's are so confusing anymore.

[Jynx]

I really find myself missing the old days when I start looking at new processors.

 

I'm looking at building another system very soon.  It's been awhile so I started doing my research at Microcenter as that's where I'll be picking everything up from.  Right now I just need to pick up a CPU and motherboard.  Clearly these days you can't just go by the number schemes anymore it seems.  I'll look at an expensive one listed but then read on a review site how its crap and this particular one is better and its actually cheaper.  So what I want to know today, Minus the extreme processor where were looking at $1000+, what is the top of the line processor right now?

 

And then secondly, what is the top ITX MB right now for said CPU?

 

Thanks in advance!

[themctipers]

i7 6700k

asus Maximus vii

[Energycore]

The argued best processor for gaming is the 4-core 8-logical i7 6700K (overclockable)

 

and a good ITX mobo for it is this one

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/jmgPxr/asrock-motherboard-z170gamingitxac

[Rune]

The 6700k is the top mainstream processor. If you wanted to go with the enthusiast line, the 6800k is a good choice. As far as ITX boards go, most of them aren't that great for maximum performance. Perhaps an EVGA Z170 stinger?

Also, thanks for shopping at microcenter! Right now there is a bundle deal going on where if you purchase a processor and an applicable motherboard together, you get $30 off (or $50 with a video card as well).

[megaant4]

So, right now you have Broadwell-E which was just released, which has the i7-6800K, i7-6850K, i7-6900K and the i7-6950x.

Below that is the consumer line of Skylake CPUs, which include in the high end: i7-6700K, i7-4790K and the i7-4770K.

Then you also have the Skylake i5 series.

 

As for ITX MB, no idea sorry..

[Energycore]

As for AMD, nothing on the high end 'yet'.

[Verrierr]

2 minutes ago, megaant4 said:

Below that is the consumer line of Skylake CPUs, which include in the high end: i7-6700K, i7-4790K and the i7-4770K.

i7-4xxx are Haswell/Haswell Refresh CPUs, not Skylake.

[Jynx]

Man you guys are on it!  So what are the bennefits/cons of going 68** vs 6700

[Curufinwe_wins]

IDK about that, it's been pretty confusing since the first EE edition processor (and it was awful during the GHz wars). But within a brand sure it's kinda annoying I guess, but its been that way since Conroe for Intel and AMD still has a higher number is better no matter what approach.

[Curufinwe_wins]

9 minutes ago, Rune said:

The 6700k is the top mainstream processor. If you wanted to go with the enthusiast line, the 6800k is a good choice. As far as ITX boards go, most of them aren't that great for maximum performance. Perhaps an EVGA Z170 stinger?

Also, thanks for shopping at microcenter! Right now there is a bundle deal going on where if you purchase a processor and an applicable motherboard together, you get $30 off (or $50 with a video card as well).

With all due respect, is there ever NOT a bundle deal at Microcenter with processor and motherboards?

 

Oh, and while I doubt you can do much about it, you guys should tell iBuyPower to do a better job with their display PC cable management, it's truly pitiful.

[Jynx]

2 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

IDK about that, it's been pretty confusing since the first EE edition processor (and it was awful during the GHz wars). But within a brand sure it's kinda annoying I guess, but its been that way since Conroe for Intel and AMD still has a higher number is better no matter what approach.

 

Well when I say confusing and wishing for the old days, I'm thinking back to when I first started building systems which was 1992

[Rune]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

With all due respect, is there ever NOT a bundle deal at Microcenter with processor and motherboards?

 

Oh, and while I doubt you can do much about it, you guys should tell iBuyPower to do a better job with their display PC cable management, it's truly pitiful.

The amount fluctuates from time to time.

I'll pass the feedback along to our systems area manager. He may not be able to do anything as you say, but any feedback is welcome!

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, Jynx said:

Well when I say confusing and wishing for the old days, I'm thinking back to when I first started building systems which was 1992

So pentium 200 days? (well a bit prior I suppose.)

 

Haha, I guess it's the price we pay for 50x more perf.

[Verrierr]

6 minutes ago, Jynx said:

Man you guys are on it!  So what are the bennefits/cons of going 68** vs 6700

More bang for more buck. I'm pretty sure the ratio bang/buck lowers.

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 minute ago, Rune said:

The amount fluctuates from time to time.

I'll pass the feedback along to our systems area manager. He may not be able to do anything as you say, but any feedback is welcome!

Oh, one last thing, you wouldn't happen to know if there are any plans to open a WI store in the future? Would love one (instead of amazon or driving to Il for it) here, and there really isn't ANY competition (Fry's doesn't exist and boutique shops are fairly rare. Best Buy is about all there is.)

[SpaceGhostC2C]

4 minutes ago, Jynx said:

Man you guys are on it!  So what are the bennefits/cons of going 68** vs 6700

They have different platforms. 6700 belongs to the 1151 socket, aimed at mainstream consumers, from HTPC to office and gaming. 68xx balongs to the 2o11-3 platfor socket, aimed at workstations, enthusiast of powaaa and overkill gaming. The "extreme" platforms usually offer a number of performance perks that can be highly irrelevant from a gaming point of view, so gamers typically won't see the point in paying for that (like more RAM channels, although I'm not sure if there's quad channel from everyone now). Also, the 6-core and above are all on the extreme platform (2011-3), whereas the mainstream (1151) is maxed out at 4.

[Rune]

8 minutes ago, Jynx said:

Man you guys are on it!  So what are the bennefits/cons of going 68** vs 6700

6800k+ gives you access to quad channel memory, but for gaming that shouldn't make too much of a difference. The additional cores should also help with streaming and video rendering if you are into that. If all you are doing is gaming though, stick with z170 and the 6700k.

[Rune]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Oh, one last thing, you wouldn't happen to know if there are any plans to open a WI store in the future? Would love one (instead of amazon or driving to Il for it) here, and there really isn't ANY competition (Fry's doesn't exist and boutique shops are fairly rare. Best Buy is about all there is.)

Haven't heard anything about any new locations opening. They usually send out some emails about that sort of thing if it is close enough to need staffing, but I'll check and send a PM the next time I head in just to be sure.

[DrMark]

hi everyone!

Im between 

Dell Inspiron 7359 Touch (i3-6100U/4GB/500GB/W10)

and 

Dell Inspiron 7359 Touch (i5-6200U/8GB/508GB/FHD/W10)

the first one costs 650euros and the second 880euros.is it worthy the price difference?

Yhanks in advance!

[Jynx]

A little off topic before I post more about the combo's I'm looking at, but since I was just reminded while searching, why is it that older hardware is so ridiculously expensive?  I remembered to check on some older z97 mATX and ITX boards for someone and be it Amazon or Ebay, boards that were $120 -$200 new are showing up today as $500+ is that a thing???

[Jynx]

2 minutes ago, DrMark said:

hi everyone!

Im between 

Dell Inspiron 7359 Touch (i3-6100U/4GB/500GB/W10)

and 

Dell Inspiron 7359 Touch (i5-6200U/8GB/508GB/FHD/W10)

the first one costs 650euros and the second 880euros.is it worthy the price difference?

Yhanks in advance!

4

Might want to start a thread.

[SLAYR]

5 minutes ago, Jynx said:

A little off topic before I post more about the combo's I'm looking at, but since I was just reminded while searching, why is it that older hardware is so ridiculously expensive?  I remembered to check on some older z97 mATX and ITX boards for someone and be it Amazon or Ebay, boards that were $120 -$200 new are showing up today as $500+ is that a thing???

Yep as those boards aren't made anymore, so it is either buy outrageously priced ones, or go used.

[Ryoutarou97]

3 minutes ago, Jynx said:

A little off topic before I post more about the combo's I'm looking at, but since I was just reminded while searching, why is it that older hardware is so ridiculously expensive?  I remembered to check on some older z97 mATX and ITX boards for someone and be it Amazon or Ebay, boards that were $120 -$200 new are showing up today as $500+ is that a thing???

Which boards?

 

6 minutes ago, DrMark said:

hi everyone!

Im between 

Dell Inspiron 7359 Touch (i3-6100U/4GB/500GB/W10)

and 

Dell Inspiron 7359 Touch (i5-6200U/8GB/508GB/FHD/W10)

the first one costs 650euros and the second 880euros.is it worthy the price difference?

Yhanks in advance!

Imagine talking to a friend when someone steps between you two and interrupts you for their own conversation. Start a new thread, I'll be happy to help there :).

[SLAYR]

6 minutes ago, Jynx said:

A little off topic before I post more about the combo's I'm looking at, but since I was just reminded while searching, why is it that older hardware is so ridiculously expensive?  I remembered to check on some older z97 mATX and ITX boards for someone and be it Amazon or Ebay, boards that were $120 -$200 new are showing up today as $500+ is that a thing???

This z97 itx board new is $115.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWMFf7/asrock-motherboard-z97mitxac

[Jynx]

1 minute ago, SLAYR said:

This z97 itx board new is $115.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWMFf7/asrock-motherboard-z97mitxac

 

That's not bad.  Out of stock, might be that way permanently as I don't see anyone stocking them anymore.  I was trying to find the Asus Genie I think it was maybe? It was an ITX board.