Gigabyte GTX 980ti Xtreme or GTX 1070 Founder's?

[DND]

Hey guys planning on upgrading soon and i asked here too if the 980ti would still be a good choice since the price has gone down pretty well. So here i am again asking, i just wanted to ask if what would be a good option to get the Gigabyte Gtx 980ti Xtreme or a 1070 Founder's? The price is somewhat the same well to be honest the price of the founder's is a little bit higher but not more than 50$ against the Gtx 980ti. The price of the 980ti xtreme is 445$ while the cheapest founder's that i saw is at 472$. Just wanted your insights on what would be the best to get?

[19_blackie_73]

get one of the aftermarket 1070s? should be here soon

[SaladFingers]

Take the 1070, it's a no brainer, founder's edition or not. It's a newer series and performs better than the 980ti, while consuming less power and producing less heat. What's there to consider?

[RadiatingLight]

4 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

get one of the aftermarket 1070s? should be here soon

they were here 2 months ago.

get the gigabyte windforce 1070. $400USD for a better cooler than the FE.

 

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[roylapoutre]

The Scammer Edition 1070 isn't worth it over the Extreme Edition 980 Ti for the same price. You should consider custom 1070 vs 980Ti and compare the price 

[agentagent47]

4 minutes ago, roylapoutre said:

The Scammer Edition 1070 isn't worth it over the Extreme Edition 980 Ti for the same price. You should consider custom 1070 vs 980Ti and compare the price 

*QuickBuck Editon sounds better.

[DND]

3 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

get one of the aftermarket 1070s? should be here soon

Well the aftermarket one's here are way overpriced it would cost me around 500-580$ more and my max budget is at the 400-480$ mark.

Just now, SaladFingers said:

Take the 1070, it's a no brainer, founder's edition or not. It's a newer series and performs better than the 980ti, while consuming less power and producing less heat. What's there to consider?

Well in a sense the 1070 is more powerful but the Founder's edition heats up to 80C even in countries that are cold. I am from the Philippines right now and it's hella hot here right now and my family hasn't installed or bought an AC unit for our house yet cause they are focusing on the payments for my tuition in college and the money that i am going to use to buy the gpu is my savings and the earning i get in selling my 970. So that's something to be considered.

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

they were here 2 months ago.

get the gigabyte windforce 1070. $400USD for a better cooler than the FE.

 

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Sadly the one's with aftermarket cooler here is way overpriced the cheapest one is the zotac amp extreme but is still priced high at 550$ here in the Ph and the Strix version is at 614$. So it would take me around 4-5mos before having the money to buy those and by that time my 970's price would drop significantly here in the PH.

 

4 minutes ago, roylapoutre said:

The Scammer Edition 1070 isn't worth it over the Extreme Edition 980 Ti for the same price. You should consider custom 1070 vs 980Ti and compare the price 

As i have said in my reply on RadiatingLight the custom 1070's are overpriced here so i can only consider 980ti xtreme vs 1070 FE.

[Teddy07]

I am happy with my gtx 1070 xtreme gaming from gigabyte

[SaladFingers]

9 minutes ago, DND said:

Well in a sense the 1070 is more powerful but the Founder's edition heats up to 80C even in countries that are cold. I am from the Philippines right now and it's hella hot here right now and my family hasn't installed or bought an AC unit for our house yet cause they are focusing on the payments for my tuition in college and the money that i am going to use to buy the gpu is my savings and the earning i get in selling my 970. So that's something to be considered.

 

Don't forget though that the heat produced will be the same at the end of the day between FE and custom versions. The FE, while getting hotter, pushes most of the heat outside of your case, keeping everything else cooler. A custom edition would run cooler but then the rest of your components will be hotter, so will be your ambient temp in the case. Given that the 980ti typically produces more heat than a 1070, then all around your computer will in fact run hotter, just not the card itself. 80C isn't too high for summer time if it's running at its full potential. It wouldn't even try to lower its clock at that temperature actually. 

 

In the end of the day it's your choice, but I just can't recommend an older product for about the same price as the newer one, especially when it performs worse.

 

PS: You can always go for an FE edition and later add custom cooling on it, whenever you feel like it and have the budget.

[DND]

5 hours ago, SaladFingers said:

 

Don't forget though that the heat produced will be the same at the end of the day between FE and custom versions. The FE, while getting hotter, pushes most of the heat outside of your case, keeping everything else cooler. A custom edition would run cooler but then the rest of your components will be hotter, so will be your ambient temp in the case. Given that the 980ti typically produces more heat than a 1070, then all around your computer will in fact run hotter, just not the card itself. 80C isn't too high for summer time if it's running at its full potential. It wouldn't even try to lower its clock at that temperature actually. 

 

In the end of the day it's your choice, but I just can't recommend an older product for about the same price as the newer one, especially when it performs worse.

 

PS: You can always go for an FE edition and later add custom cooling on it, whenever you feel like it and have the budget.

Thanks for your detailed insight. With that said i think im really having a hard time now in deciding what to get. But what you have said is making me lean into the 1070 FE. I had that in mind to to get something like a 1070 hybrid cooler in the future if i get the 1070. But for the meantime im gonna wait for other opinion. Hopefully someone would still notice my post. 

[DND]

5 hours ago, SaladFingers said:

 

Don't forget though that the heat produced will be the same at the end of the day between FE and custom versions. The FE, while getting hotter, pushes most of the heat outside of your case, keeping everything else cooler. A custom edition would run cooler but then the rest of your components will be hotter, so will be your ambient temp in the case. Given that the 980ti typically produces more heat than a 1070, then all around your computer will in fact run hotter, just not the card itself. 80C isn't too high for summer time if it's running at its full potential. It wouldn't even try to lower its clock at that temperature actually. 

 

In the end of the day it's your choice, but I just can't recommend an older product for about the same price as the newer one, especially when it performs worse.

 

PS: You can always go for an FE edition and later add custom cooling on it, whenever you feel like it and have the budget.

Thanks for your detailed insight. With that said i think im really having a hard time now in deciding what to get. But what you have said is making me lean into the 1070 FE. I had that in mind to to get something like a 1070 hybrid cooler in the future if i get the 1070. But for the meantime im gonna wait for other opinion. Hopefully someone would still notice my post. 

[xAcid9]

Performance is similar, why not grab a Palit 1070 Jetstream/Gamerock? Price should be cheaper and cooling performance is much better.

 

 

[DND]

43 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Performance is similar, why not grab a Palit 1070 Jetstream/Gamerock? Price should be cheaper and cooling performance is much better.

 

 

Are Palit products good? in terms of build quality, customer service, etc? Honestly i don't really like Palit and their designs.

[xAcid9]

36 minutes ago, DND said:

Are Palit products good? in terms of build quality, customer service, etc? Honestly i don't really like Palit and their designs.

I have good experienced with their cards, i don't know about their customer service at PH so your mileage may vary.
Build quality look cheap imo especially the Gamerock edition but cooling performance is great with that huge heatsink underneath. 
 

Took from my local forum.

size vs Zotac 760 AMP!

 

[DND]

13 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

I have good experienced with their cards, i don't know about their customer service at PH so your mileage may vary.
Build quality look cheap imo especially the Gamerock edition but cooling performance is great with that huge heatsink underneath. 
 

Took from my local forum.

size vs Zotac 760 AMP!

 

thanks i'll look into this.

[SaladFingers]

18 hours ago, DND said:

Thanks for your detailed insight. With that said i think im really having a hard time now in deciding what to get. But what you have said is making me lean into the 1070 FE. I had that in mind to to get something like a 1070 hybrid cooler in the future if i get the 1070. But for the meantime im gonna wait for other opinion. Hopefully someone would still notice my post. 

Sure. That's my personal opinion after all, in the end it's your pocket and your choice

[ConiferousJelly]

18 hours ago, DND said:

Thanks for your detailed insight. With that said i think im really having a hard time now in deciding what to get. But what you have said is making me lean into the 1070 FE. I had that in mind to to get something like a 1070 hybrid cooler in the future if i get the 1070. But for the meantime im gonna wait for other opinion. Hopefully someone would still notice my post. 

Actually a good idea, grab a FE version and when you get $120 buy the EVGA Hybrid conversion kit and your golden, all while getting the newer tech

[DND]

47 minutes ago, SaladFingers said:

Sure. That's my personal opinion after all, in the end it's your pocket and your choice

Really appreciate it man. Once again thanks for that insight.

33 minutes ago, ConiferousJelly said:

Actually a good idea, grab a FE version and when you get $120 buy the EVGA Hybrid conversion kit and your golden, all while getting the newer tech

Yeah been thinking about that too. Is the Hybrid kit for the 1070 out yet?

[ConiferousJelly]

15 hours ago, DND said:

Really appreciate it man. Once again thanks for that insight.

Yeah been thinking about that too. Is the Hybrid kit for the 1070 out yet?

Yep, the 1080 and 1070 hybrid kit are the same thing. You can find it here. Its $120 and is a DIY kit

[BYOGamingPC]

Definitely go with whatever GTX 1070 https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=gtx+1070 you can find for the cheapest price. Preference goes to aftermarket models over FE.

[DND]

6 hours ago, ConiferousJelly said:

Yep, the 1080 and 1070 hybrid kit are the same thing. You can find it here. Its $120 and is a DIY kit

thanks.

 

4 hours ago, BYOGamingPC said:

Definitely go with whatever GTX 1070 https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=gtx+1070 you can find for the cheapest price. Preference goes to aftermarket models over FE.

can't really order through amazon and newegg cause im here in the philippines and the price would go crazy high due to taxes and stuff and the shipping would take 2 weeks or 3 weeks at best and i want to get it soon so i can still enjoy my new card while it's still my summer vacation. So my only option is getting 980ti xtreme and a 1070 founder's  cause they are almost the same price.

[xAcid9]

http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html

 

So fast. Lol

[Bhav]

980 Ti isn't worth the same cost as a 1070, its only worth it if £50-100 less.

[BYOGamingPC]

18 hours ago, DND said:

thanks.

 

can't really order through amazon and newegg cause im here in the philippines and the price would go crazy high due to taxes and stuff and the shipping would take 2 weeks or 3 weeks at best and i want to get it soon so i can still enjoy my new card while it's still my summer vacation. So my only option is getting 980ti xtreme and a 1070 founder's  cause they are almost the same price.

Then go with the 1070. It's better than the 980Ti and I've owned both.

[DND]

11 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html

 

So fast. Lol

Damn saw this on Setup Addicts group on FP. So does this mean that Nvidia's gonna drop support on the 900 series soon? or did they drop it already?

10 hours ago, Bhav said:

980 Ti isn't worth the same cost as a 1070, its only worth it if £50-100 less.

So even if it's founder's it's worth it?

2 hours ago, BYOGamingPC said:

Then go with the 1070. It's better than the 980Ti and I've owned both.

Okay thanks.