VR Question

[Little Bear]

Due to controversy I cleared the post.

[TheRandomness]

Why would it induce cancer..?

[Little Bear]

3 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Why would it induce cancer..?

The electromagnetic frequencies

[DrM]

4 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

The electromagnetic frequencies

... its not like vr headsets radiate anything more high energy than visible light

[Little Bear]

2 minutes ago, DrM said:

... its not like vr headsets radiate anything more high energy than visible light

Its on top of your head for an extended period of time.

[porina]

6 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

The electromagnetic frequencies

Own a mobile phone? The energy given off by that will be many orders of magnitude higher.

[DrM]

1 minute ago, Little Bear said:

Its on top of your head for an extended period of time.

its not like it would be any worse than having your lights on at night. or does that cause cancer too?

[Little Bear]

4 hours ago, porina said:

Own a mobile phone? The energy given off by that will be many orders of magnitude higher.

technically (I don't want to start anything), but phones (such as iphones) actually do cause cancer...

 

4 hours ago, DrM said:

its not like it would be any worse than having your lights on at night. or does that cause cancer too?

it communicates with your cells, and tells them to skip the S phase in cell replication. Lights don't because they don't radiate the same type of energy and they aren't in contact with your skin.

[alanz25]

2 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

technically (I don't want to start anything), but phones (such as iphones) actually do cause cancer...

Through what? radiation? i have yet to hear of such proof surfacing in a scientifically supported experiment.

[Little Bear]

2 minutes ago, alanz25 said:

Through what? radiation? i have yet to hear of such proof surfacing in a scientifically supported experiment.

I am asking through logic. It would be like sleeping, and using your computer as a pillow.

[porina]

2 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

technically (I don't want to start anything), but phones (such as iphones) actually do cause cancer...

Have to say I haven't checked recently, but was that ever really proven? I mean, last time I looked there were some studies that suggested there might be some physiological effects, some didn't, and it seemed inconclusive. Putting that aside, as said the energy from a VR headset is going to be many times lower than a phone anyway since they are not intentional transmitters. Pretty much everything has a slight risk to it, even eating a banana, but it has to be kept in perspective.

[DrM]

4 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

it communicates with your cells, and tells them to skip the S phase in cell replication. Lights don't because they don't radiate the same type of energy and they aren't in contact with your skin.

 

1 minute ago, Little Bear said:

I am asking through logic. It would be like sleeping, and using your computer as a pillow.

 

1 minute ago, porina said:

Have to say I haven't checked recently, but was that ever really proven? I mean, last time I looked there were some studies that suggested there might be some physiological effects, some didn't, and it seemed inconclusive. Putting that aside, as said the energy from a VR headset is going to be many times lower than a phone anyway since they are not intentional transmitters. Pretty much everything has a slight risk to it, even eating a banana, but it has to be kept in perspective.

may want to read up on this

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet

[Little Bear]

5 minutes ago, porina said:

Have to say I haven't checked recently, but was that ever really proven? I mean, last time I looked there were some studies that suggested there might be some physiological effects, some didn't, and it seemed inconclusive. Putting that aside, as said the energy from a VR headset is going to be many times lower than a phone anyway since they are not intentional transmitters. Pretty much everything has a slight risk to it, even eating a banana, but it has to be kept in perspective.

Its never going to be "proven" because publishers are paid off. Also yes I understand it is a lesser energy amount, but do you talk on the phone for 5 hours(without stopping)?

[alanz25]

2 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

I am asking through logic. It would be like sleeping, and using your computer as a pillow.

no significant and accurate connections have been found between cell phones and cancer. you can't just use commen sense as a fact

[DrM]

5 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

it communicates with your cells, and tells them to skip the S phase in cell replication. Lights don't because they don't radiate the same type of energy and they aren't in contact with your skin.

do you have any evidence that backs that up? headsets dont exactly radiate ionizing radiation. its just visible light, but at different frequencies so it appears colored, but i otherwise the exact same energy as a lightbulb

[Little Bear]

3 minutes ago, alanz25 said:

no significant and accurate connections have been found between cell phones and cancer. you can't just use commen sense as a fact

please don't comment again, you obviously don't listen. I said logic, and (for the record common sense is not that common) all scientific studies begin with that.

[DrM]

3 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

Its never going to be "proven" because publishers are paid off. Also yes I understand it is a lesser energy amount, but do you talk on the phone for 5 hours(without stopping)?

looking at the overall brain cancer rates in the us from 1977-2006, it has stayed roughly the same. there is no correlation with the number of cell phone users

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3098028/figure/NOQ077F1/

[Little Bear]

4 hours ago, DrM said:

do you have any evidence that backs that up? headsets dont exactly radiate ionizing radiation. its just visible light, but at different frequencies so it appears colored, but i otherwise the exact same energy as a lightbulb

Headsets don't do it unless they are wireless.

 

4 hours ago, DrM said:

looking at the overall brain cancer rates in the us from 1977-2006, it has stayed roughly the same. there is no correlation with the number of cell phone users

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3098028/figure/NOQ077F1/

Your a quick you eh?

[DrM]

4 hours ago, Little Bear said:

-snip-

yes, and logically, cell phones emit microwaves and radio waves, which from basic chemistry, is non ionizing radiation that has no effect on cell growth. its even lower energy than visible light, and we havent gotten cancer from that yet

 

4 hours ago, Little Bear said:

Headsets don't do it unless they are wireless.

and do you have evidence to back up your argument? because wireless signals are low energy radio waves

[Little Bear]

4 hours ago, DrM said:

yes, and logically, cell phones emit microwaves and radio waves, which from basic chemistry, is non ionizing radiation that has no effect on cell growth. its even lower energy than visible light, and we havent gotten cancer from that yet

Thanks for the feedback, I wanted to see what the community thought about this.

 

 

 

 

No doubt about it being bad for your eyes though.

 

4 hours ago, DrM said:

and do you have evidence to back up your argument? because wireless signals are low energy radio waves

I am explaining as if it were a prolonged period of time.

[Aytex]

2 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

No doubt about it being bad for your eyes though.

gonna have to agree with you with that

[Bsmith]

27 minutes ago, Little Bear said:

The electromagnetic frequencies

dude, this made me fall from my chair, really it did.

 

you know why? because every-fucking-thing that emits heath, light, a magnetic function or anything alike basically send out electromagnetic radiation. Seriously everything, wavelengths that translate to visible light are simply electromagnetic frequencies, so is a magnetic field or an electrical signal, believe it or not.

I agree on the fact that it might be bad for your eyes with prolonged times, but cancer?! hell no! then LCD screens from our computers also should cause cancer or at the very least increase the chance of it!(like everything else already does)

[Little Bear]

7 hours ago, Bsmith said:

dude, this made me fall from my chair, really it did.

 

you know why? because every-fucking-thing that emits heath, light, a magnetic function or anything alike basically send out electromagnetic radiation. Seriously everything, wavelengths that translate to visible light are simply electromagnetic frequencies, so is a magnetic field or an electrical signal, believe it or not.

I agree on the fact that it might be bad for your eyes with prolonged times, but cancer?! hell no! then LCD screens from our computers also should cause cancer or at the very least increase the chance of it!(like everything else already does)

Damn you must be using internet from under a bridge. It was a question not a conclusive answer, so please crawl back intro your crab shell.

[michaelocarroll007]

8 hours ago, Little Bear said:

Thanks for the feedback, I wanted to see what the community thought about this.

 

No doubt about it being bad for your eyes though.

 

I am explaining as if it were a prolonged period of time.

 

7 hours ago, Aytex said:

gonna have to agree with you with that

I Believe that sitting close to a screen doesnt degrade your eyes. I read a study about the real reason is not being exposed to sunlight is the actual culprit but this can have a higher correlation with thoses who use screens for large parts of the day. looking for it now will post it if i find it. 

[michaelocarroll007]

8 hours ago, Little Bear said:

 

 

I am explaining as if it were a prolonged period of time.