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I feel dirty... Intel integrated graphics!

Yesterday I got a Vive, and I set it up for sitting mode only at my computer desk. It became obvious quickly I didn't have enough room even for that as I was hitting things around me. So I started tidying up for room mode elsewhere. Problem being... it is not near my main machine and I don't want to move that. After a bit of thinking, it was easy. I'd grab the 2nd 6700k system, and move my 980Ti from main rig into that. I'm still in the process of setting that up.

 

Now... that obviously leaves a gap in my main rig. I still need performance on it, so I dug out my 2nd fastest GPU, an R9 280X, fitted it, drivers installed... and it was more epilepsy inducing than the original Pokemon Polygon episode. Tried different connection method with no luck. It was unusable. Doing a quick google suggested it could be any of a million things and it wasn't worth the time sorting it.

 

Fine, next card on the power list is a 750 Ti. Not very powerful, but better than nothing. Only when I went to connect it to my monitor did I realise I didn't have the right connectors. Card had mini-HDMI and two DVI. My monitor and cables only allowed me to use full size HDMI, DP and mini-DP. No match, and I didn't have any HDMI adapters either.

 

Then the last resort hit me. Integrated graphics. So, it has come to this... I'm just about to put the driver on and I'll see how bad it is shortly... this will be temporary. I will likely get a current generation VR card to go in the VR box, and move the 980Ti back into my main box, but I'm going to try and wait for nicer models and hope the crashing economy doesn't make prices go up.

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Integrated graphics aren't so bad any more. The HD4600 smokes previous generations by a lot, and indeed low end graphics cards (aka the GT 720 is for example pointless now).

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Think about a 1080 Xtreme Gaming from Gigabyte since it will feature a dual HDMI port bay for a 5,25" slot

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Reminds me of when I bought my 6600k. I was it was going to work with my 970, as it was already on my APU PC....

 

BUT THEN! The parts arrived. And because the very first PCIe slot was a 1x, I had to move it down, only to realize that my GPU wouldn't nicely fit inside the 5 1/4 bay anymore. I was left with:

  1. APU + 970 on my case
  2. 6600k + 970 on the table
  3. 6600k on the case with the iGPU.

I went with 3. Wasn't all that bad, served my Dota and Youtube needs just fine while I waited for a new case to arrive. Power bill went down that month (I'm sure you know why...).

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2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Integrated graphics aren't so bad any more. The HD4600 smokes previous generations by a lot, and indeed low end graphics cards (aka the GT 720 is for example pointless now).

The very low end cards, did they ever have a point? Well, I can think of two and they are certainly not normal. I have two MSI Z170 gaming pro mobos and the onboard graphics on that is glitchy, so I try to run some GPU in them. The other case is a server I have which has something built in that can barely manage 2D, seriously. It ran out of steam around 1024x768! I know it is a server, so in that environment it is adequate, but it still sure sucks.

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Anyways, kinda unlucky stuff from you.. First a non functioning R9 280X, than a 750 Ti without the correct connectors for you.. 

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6 minutes ago, racer243l said:

Think about a 1080 Xtreme Gaming from Gigabyte since it will feature a dual HDMI port bay for a 5,25" slot

In the way I'm going to use it, that wont be necessary. So if no extra cost, maybe, but I wont pay extra for it.

4 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Wasn't all that bad, served my Dota and Youtube needs just fine while I waited for a new case to arrive. Power bill went down that month (I'm sure you know why...).

It was a bit close for me to fit the 980Ti into the new machine actually. I had to remove one of the hard disk holders to give it enough length. Currently the biggest game I'm playing is South Park: The Stick of Truth and I hope that isn't too demanding for integrated...

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25 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Integrated graphics aren't so bad any more. The HD4600 smokes previous generations by a lot, and indeed low end graphics cards (aka the GT 720 is for example pointless now).

Well they do seem pretty bad for me xD

using Intel HD GPU for more than 1 month. Needles to say, I didn't play any games during this time.

Waiting for GTX 1070 to come from RMA, because intel HD GPU is just useless for me lol

Playing Guild Wars 2 (CPU heavy game btw), at the lowest possible settings at 1920x1080 (my monitor is 1440p), and it can't even deliver me 30fps stable xD 

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30 minutes ago, Minibois said:

"Pokemon Polygon"

Electric Soldier Porygon (or actually Computer Warrior Porygon)*

Hope I'm not dating myself too much by referencing that... wonder how many are familiar with it...

30 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Anyways, kinda unlucky stuff from you.. First a non functioning R9 280X, than a 750 Ti without the correct connectors for you.. 

The 280X does work, just not with my main monitor for some reason.

14 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Well they do seem pretty bad for me xD

using Intel HD GPU for more than 1 month. Needles to say, I didn't play any games during this time.

Waiting for GTX 1070 to come from RMA, because intel HD GPU is just useless for me lol

Playing Guild Wars 2 (CPU heavy game btw), at the lowest possible settings at 1920x1080 (my monitor is 1440p), and it can't even deliver me 30fps stable xD 

Only had a quick run on Catzilla, scores were less than 10% of the 980Ti... 'nuff said. I wasn't expecting any more though.

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5 minutes ago, porina said:

Only had a quick run on Catzilla, scores were less than 10% of the 980Ti... 'nuff said. I wasn't expecting any more though.

I did run Firestrike Extreme benchmark with intel HD GPU xD 

Was looking for link, but website is down.

I got something like 350 score lol

average FPS in GPU test was 0,8fps

So yeah ... not good enough for me xD 

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22 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

I did run Firestrike Extreme benchmark with intel HD GPU xD 

Was looking for link, but website is down.

I got something like 350 score lol

average FPS in GPU test was 0,8fps

So yeah ... not good enough for me xD 

Just did firestrike (regular) and got 1184 overall, 1271 graphics, in 5fps ball park for the graphics tests and 2fps for combined test whatever that is.

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10 hours ago, porina said:

Yesterday I got a Vive, and I set it up for sitting mode only at my computer desk. It became obvious quickly I didn't have enough room even for that as I was hitting things around me. So I started tidying up for room mode elsewhere. Problem being... it is not near my main machine and I don't want to move that. After a bit of thinking, it was easy. I'd grab the 2nd 6700k system, and move my 980Ti from main rig into that. I'm still in the process of setting that up.

 

Now... that obviously leaves a gap in my main rig. I still need performance on it, so I dug out my 2nd fastest GPU, an R9 280X, fitted it, drivers installed... and it was more epilepsy inducing than the original Pokemon Polygon episode. Tried different connection method with no luck. It was unusable. Doing a quick google suggested it could be any of a million things and it wasn't worth the time sorting it.

 

Fine, next card on the power list is a 750 Ti. Not very powerful, but better than nothing. Only when I went to connect it to my monitor did I realise I didn't have the right connectors. Card had mini-HDMI and two DVI. My monitor and cables only allowed me to use full size HDMI, DP and mini-DP. No match, and I didn't have any HDMI adapters either.

 

Then the last resort hit me. Integrated graphics. So, it has come to this... I'm just about to put the driver on and I'll see how bad it is shortly... this will be temporary. I will likely get a current generation VR card to go in the VR box, and move the 980Ti back into my main box, but I'm going to try and wait for nicer models and hope the crashing economy doesn't make prices go up.

Why do you have like 3 cards... When I sold my 970 and 750Ti (I use both on my rig) I was left with only the intel iGPU and the Vive sitting there waiting like 2 weeks for the 1070...

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8 hours ago, Schubaltz said:

I have an i7 4790K and have no idea how to switch to the integrated GPU.. I've had it since mid/late 2014 and have never seen an option for it :/

Easiest way is without GPU added, plug in monitor to the connector on mobo, assuming it has one. If you have a GPU added there might be a bios option to make both active at once but this might not be supported on older systems.

7 hours ago, Megazero said:

Why do you have like 3 cards... When I sold my 970 and 750Ti (I use both on my rig) I was left with only the intel iGPU and the Vive sitting there waiting like 2 weeks for the 1070...

Why do I have... (*goes count*) 9 modern systems? I run a bit of a compute farm, mostly CPU focused but I'm looking to go into GPU too. So as long as the card isn't that old it has some value and what I'd get back from selling it is hardly worth the time and effort. The 280X has possibly the highest double precision floating point in affordable GPUs. There are faster, but much more expensive options. If the card is older, there is no significant value left.

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