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Should I Buy the RX 480 on Release?

"The Radeon Pro Duo was never a GAMING card." This is priceless.

 

You are sort of right, but the funny thing.... is it beat the 980Ti in benchmarks by a few fps here and there BUT.... it's clearly not designed as anything but a gaming card going by the tests they did before the games.  Namely :

 

Luxmark

 

980 Ti SLI - 7827 score

Pro Duo - 7260

 

So it lost in a NON gaming benchmark - interesting.

 

How about this.

 

Maya Test

 

980 Ti SLI - 125.27 score

Pro Duo - 68.35 score

 

Higher is better in every test BTW.

 

So you clearly said it's not a gaming card but the only thing is truly excelled at was games. :)

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31 minutes ago, App4that said:

xD It never ceases to amaze me how fans stay on their toes. When the Pro Due came out I got my head taken off by AMD fans over saying it wasn't meant for gaming, now that it's not the 980ti killer they hoped it would be it's not meant for gaming. Just like when winter arrives the AMD fans will bend and twist over why the RX 480 isn't a 980 or better. Probably blaming Nvidia as your use of the slur for Gameworks shows. Which is why AMD dumped money into marketing, not driver support. AMD fans don't place pleasure on driver support or performance. Nvidia put an eject button in a driver update? Well that's good for a year of calling Nvidia's drivers crap xD AMD knows their consumer base, you have to hand it to them.

 

Does the Rx 480 have potential? Probably, like many of the products in the Radeon line. But for 300us you can have a 390, if the AIB 480s reach 300us for the 8g model AMD will have rebranded the performance of the 390, or should I say 290? To validate AMD's claims as rebelling against the high cost of gaming they can't simply offer the same performance to dollar we currently have access to in the 300 series. They need that Nano level performance at 250-300us.

It is a fact that crapworks uses tesselation. And it is a fact that AMDs GCN architecture struggles with alpha effects (smoke, particles etc...).

If you check my posting history, you would know i never advocated the Radeon Pro Duo as a gaming card after AMD announced their official stance for it. Sure, prior to release i hoped it would be like my 295x2, just faster. But AMD had other plans, and it is obvious that those were not what i hoped.

 

As for Nvidia sabotage. It is not unlikely it is deliberate. However thing is both vendors screwed themselves over.

AMD could have worked harder on tesselation and Alpha effect performance. They have had YEARS of advance warning of these effects being more popular.

Nvidia could have worked harder on SLI scaling and Async compute. They have had YEARS of advance warning of these things becoming a issue.

 

As for "leaked" benches.

I trust leaked benches about as far as i can throw a grown man.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Prysin said:

It is a fact that crapworks uses tesselation. And it is a fact that AMDs GCN architecture struggles with alpha effects (smoke, particles etc...).

If you check my posting history, you would know i never advocated the Radeon Pro Duo as a gaming card after AMD announced their official stance for it. Sure, prior to release i hoped it would be like my 295x2, just faster. But AMD had other plans, and it is obvious that those were not what i hoped.

 

As for Nvidia sabotage. It is not unlikely it is deliberate. However thing is both vendors screwed themselves over.

AMD could have worked harder on tesselation and Alpha effect performance. They have had YEARS of advance warning of these effects being more popular.

Nvidia could have worked harder on SLI scaling and Async compute. They have had YEARS of advance warning of these things becoming a issue.

 

As for "leaked" benches.

I trust leaked benches about as far as i can throw a grown man.

 

 

This is one of my favorite reads on the whole Gameworks and AMD deal.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/05/21/amd-is-wrong-about-the-witcher-3-and-nvidias-hairworks/#3cde61e16660

 

And as for SLI, the lack of dual GPU cards should be enough to let everyone know Nvidia's feelings on it.

 

My curiosity lies in the response to the flood gate opening tomorrow and the reason for the NDA blackout becoming apparent. Do the fans hold AMD accountable? Or do we see more mental gymnastics?

 

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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I've been browsing the forums for the past couple days trying to make my decision on whether to buy the RX 480 or not, but it's seems the community is split in half, and I don't know which side I should be on. Damn it AMD causing all this chaos, on tech forums everywhere! xD 

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2 minutes ago, OverDrive822 said:

I've been browsing the forums for the past couple days trying to make my decision on whether to buy the RX 480 or not, but it's seems the community is split in half, and I don't know which side I should be on. Damn it AMD causing all this chaos, on tech forums everywhere! xD 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Wait 5 hours and then see the benchmarks.

 

1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Wait 5 hours and then see the benchmarks.

Will youtubers like LTT be able to release videos before consumers are aloud to buy them in stores

 

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Wait at least three weeks for propper rewievs, benchmark and what not. Always wait after the storm.

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5 minutes ago, OverDrive822 said:

 

Will youtubers like LTT be able to release videos before consumers are aloud to buy them in stores

 

I think they will release them the moment you can buy them. Or LTT will release at the usual 2pm time.

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In light of brexit I wouldn't be in such a hurry to dash cash on a spanking new 480. Wait on the reviews and benchmarks and possibly custom designs ^_^

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7 minutes ago, burnttoastnice said:

 

In light of brexit I wouldn't be in such a hurry to dash cash on a spanking new 480. Wait on the reviews and benchmarks and possibly custom designs ^_^

 

I think that's what I'm going to do because better OC's and better looking

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