OMG, 8 Cores in Xbox Scorpio!!! (seriously?)

[Bootskii]

So Microsoft mentioned in that over-the-top (kind of Hooli-ish) commercial for Scorpio that it will have an 8 core CPU. I remember Linus (or somebody) saying that game devs are still having trouble utilizing quad cores. Is this marketing or "future-proofing?" Or something else entirely?

[McHox]

5 minutes ago, Bootskii said:

So Microsoft mentioned in that over-the-top (kind of Hooli-ish) commercial for Scorpio that it will have an 8 core CPU. I remember Linus (or somebody) saying that game devs are still having trouble utilizing quad cores. Is this marketing or "future-proofing?" Or something else entirely?

so does the ps4 and the current xbox one m8

[arnavvr2]

The Current Xbox One has 8 Jaguar Cores, and it is optimized fine. Most Gamers are not running eight core CPUs.Same with 4-Way SLI. Not many gamers are running 4-Way SLI, and that is why it is not optimized.

[trag1c]

2 minutes ago, Bootskii said:

So Microsoft mentioned in that over-the-top (kind of Hooli-ish) commercial for Scorpio that it will have an 8 core CPU. I remember Linus (or somebody) saying that game devs are still having trouble utilizing quad cores. Is this marketing or "future-proofing?" Or something else entirely?

Thats not really significant as the xbone and the PS4 have 8 (technically ps4 has 2 quadcores) core processors. Devs fully utilize everything on these consoles as the hardware is constant. PC the architecture has to scale to many systems so it may not always be the most efficient but on console the game engines are finely tuned master pieces.

[NowThatsDamp]

This is a game machine. The CPU is irrelevant. All that matters is the GPU.

[agent_x007]

Two options :
1) It's probably a "Zen" thing (a "cheap" and NOT power hungry true Octa Core's but with mediocre clock speed).

2) They just calling 4 Core 8 Thread CPU, a "Octa-core".
Marketing... you expected something better ?

[norritt]

Even the Playstation 3 had 7 cores already. So yeah it is of course marketing again. Also MS will do sth. similar to Sony that requires game developers to make every game also playable on the "old" XBox one (although with lesser visual quality). This severly limits the use of any performance boost of the new consoles - because compatibility to the older systems will require compromises.

[trag1c]

1 minute ago, NowThatsDamp said:

This is a game machine. The CPU is irrelevant. All that matters is the GPU.

The CPU is significantly more relevant that you seem to think. Go read a book.

[manikyath]

4 minutes ago, NowThatsDamp said:

This is a game machine. The CPU is irrelevant. All that matters is the GPU.

i suggest you try gaming on an athlon 64 then. any gpu you want, but with an athlon 64.

 

on topic: especially in the type of games that finds its way onto consoles (big titles, etc.) more than 4 cores have been a thing, and are in a rising.

 

that said, the PS4 and Xbone both also have 8 cores available, however they arent all "allocated" to the game. that said, i'm still less worried about the number of cores, than i am about single threaded performance. there's just "things" that cant be multithreaded properly, they exist in every game, and if the scorpio cant deliver over the Xbone in this regard it'll be a letdown, no matter the gpu side of things.

[NowThatsDamp]

Okay guys I was exaggerating my bad.

[Simon771]

it can have 128 cores and still won't run at 60fps with that GPU inside.

Xbox and PS4 need GPU upgrade much more than CPU upgrade.

 

[Bootskii]

15 minutes ago, agent_x007 said:

Marketing... you expected something better ?

Actually expecting much worse. I hear 8 core and I think i7 or Xeon, and wondered how much money they expected parents to throw away next December.

[Nena Trinity]

Jaguar cores are inferior to both Piledriver and Steamroller cores...

[Jumper118]

they bought all those 2670 off ebay cheap to put in them. you heard it here first.

[Moress]

8 hours ago, Simon771 said:

it can have 128 cores and still won't run at 60fps with that GPU inside.

Xbox and PS4 need GPU upgrade much more than CPU upgrade.

 

The GPU (Although they run an APU) was really upgraded on the updated Consoles, far more than the upgrade on the cpu for the Ps4 Neo.

[Hiebly]

9 hours ago, Simon771 said:

it can have 128 cores and still won't run at 60fps with that GPU inside.

Xbox and PS4 need GPU upgrade much more than CPU upgrade.

 

Not necessarily. Developers of various games have said that the CPU of the consoles is extremely limiting. With the limited GPU power you can tone down texture quality, shadow resolution, even the pixel scale (of course that's not desirable, but it's easy to free up GPU resources).

 

The Xbox One I would agree with you - its GPU is especially weak (if memory serves it's like an HD 7770 or so). But the PS4 actually has a decent GPU - comparable to an HD 7870, it's pretty decent for 1080P gaming with respectable visual quality... but a 1.6GHz AMD CPU is gonna make hitting the 60 FPS target extremely difficult in some games. Even in GTA V (as an example) the PS4 really struggles to maintain 30 FPS due to the slow CPU (Xbox One doesn't struggle as much with framerate on CPU hungry games).