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1 minute ago, Yoobsterlol said:

So I'm building Pc but want to know if I get a 1080 now, will I be able to sell it in the future for Volta cards and gain enough to buy an 1170? 

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Well, you can always sell a card you have. Just be prepared to lose a considerable sum of money, the 1080 is going to drop in price a lot more than the 1070 will.

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You will be able to sell it in the future, but there's no telling what the price might be.  That will be influenced by many factors, such as the future retail price of 1080s, the retail price of the 1170, the performance of those and other cards, the cost of those other cards, how saturated the used market is, etc.

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2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

You will be able to sell it in the future, but there's no telling what the price might be.  That will be influenced by many factors, such as the future retail price of 1080s, the retail price of the 1170, the performance of those and other cards, the cost of those other cards, how saturated the used market is, etc.

Wow very detailed, I thought about all those things but I figure Nvidia wouldn't charge the same for what they charge for flagships now and also figured I could sell a 1080 for like 400 or something used(a few months before Volta comes out so I can sell it for more). 

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19 minutes ago, Yoobsterlol said:

Wow very detailed, I thought about all those things but I figure Nvidia wouldn't charge the same for what they charge for flagships now and also figured I could sell a 1080 for like 400 or something used(a few months before Volta comes out so I can sell it for more). 

yes you probably can

volta wont be as large a performance jump as the 1000 was over the 900 since its not a new architecture

so yeah you can probably get $400 or more from your 1080 before the 1100 series

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14 minutes ago, Enderman said:

yes you probably can

volta wont be as large a performance jump as the 1000 was over the 900 since its not a new architecture

so yeah you can probably get $400 or more from your 1080 before the 1100 series

Isn't Volta a new architecture? To be fair, Pascal wasn't that much of a new architecture. IPC wasn't improved at all; nearly all the performance gains pascal has over Maxwell is from 16nm finfet. Though the jump from 28nm to 16nm finfet was enough to double the performance/watt.

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4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Isn't Volta a new architecture? To be fair, Pascal wasn't that much of a new architecture. IPC wasn't improved at all; nearly all the performance gains pascal has over Maxwell is from 16nm finfet. Though the jump from 28nm to 16nm finfet was enough to double the performance/watt.

yeah sorry i meant process node

volta will still be 16nm

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

yeah sorry i meant process node

volta will still be 16nm

Wait it's not jumping to 10nm? Oh...

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3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Wait it's not jumping to 10nm? Oh...

well im talking about the 1100 series

which i highly doubt will be anything other than 16nm

whether its called volta or not idk

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3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Wait it's not jumping to 10nm? Oh...

I highly doubt it.  Look how long they stayed on 28 nm, and it just gets more expensive with each shrink

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3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I highly doubt it.  Look how long they stayed on 28 nm, and it just gets more expensive with each shrink

Well part of the reason they stayed so long at 28nm was because of how horrible 20nm was for large chips. But yeah, I see what you're saying.

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1 hour ago, Enderman said:

well im talking about the 1100 series

which i highly doubt will be anything other than 16nm

whether its called volta or not idk

Well the whole point of Pascal was to fill in for Volta because the 10nm process was not developed quite yet, Volta will most likely be 10nm which means more transistors, which means more POWAAAAA

 

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5 hours ago, Yoobsterlol said:

Well the whole point of Pascal was to fill in for Volta because the 10nm process was not developed quite yet, Volta will most likely be 10nm which means more transistors, which means more POWAAAAA

 

Let's just say if they go to 10 nm with Volta I'll be very surprised.  I would also expect that to be the last die shrink.  As in, the GPUs after that may well be something other than the straight silicon we've gotten used to.  We know it's being worked on... at least in the CPU world, and it is going to be needed within the coming years.

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