i7 4790K or Xeon E3-1246 V3

[TheSuspect]

Alright, I've already got a Xeon thread, but I've researched the Xeon a bit more and I've brought upon the title's question. Same as the other thread, all pros and cons of both chips since I'm still, well, iffy on my knowledge when it comes to Xeons. Also, I don't really care if it's oc'able or not. Wasn't going to oc the 4790k anyway.

 

*Edit: Will be used for gaming and often 3d rendering and will be paired with a 1070*

[dizmo]

If you're not worried about price the 4790k will give you the best performance, even if not overclocked.

[The Realist]

2 minutes ago, TheSuspect said:

Alright, I've already got a Xeon thread, but I've researched the Xeon a bit more and I've brought upon the title's question. Same as the other thread, all pros and cons of both chips since I'm still, well, iffy on my knowledge when it comes to Xeons. Also, I don't really care if it's oc'able or not. Wasn't going to oc the 4790k anyway.

1.Why but a K series CPU if not going to overclock it? just save $30 and get a 4790

2.i7 4790k Advantages : Better single core performance

3.Xeon : lower TDP by 4w

 

i say just save a couple bucks and go for the 4790 since the Xeons are usually server builds on a rendering machine they are usable for gaming but its not the same

[manikyath]

the xeons more so come down to performance per dollar, while the desktop K parts are more expensive, and a tad faster.

 

if the budget for a Z chipset mobo and a K part is there, you honestly should. even if you wont OC it now, chances are it'll be a bit sluggish feeling in a few years, and then you can OC it to squeeze an extra year or so of lifespan out of it while you plan out your upgrade.

 

also, the 4790k comes out the box faster than the 4790, and the xeon.

[dizmo]

7 minutes ago, The Realist said:

1.Why but a K series CPU if not going to overclock it? just save $30 and get a 4790

2.i7 4790k Advantages : Better single core performance

3.Xeon : lower TDP by 4w

 

i say just save a couple bucks and go for the 4790 since the Xeons are usually server builds on a rendering machine they are usable for gaming but its not the same

Xeon's are the same, sometimes minus the iGPU, and the overclock. They also support ECC.

[Nacho Marco Segui]

4790k, higher clock speed

[danielporsh911]

7 minutes ago, The Realist said:

1.Why but a K series CPU if not going to overclock it? just save $30 and get a 4790

2.i7 4790k Advantages : Better single core performance

3.Xeon : lower TDP by 4w

 

i say just save a couple bucks and go for the 4790 since the Xeons are usually server builds on a rendering machine they are usable for gaming but its not the same

I would agree with you and oh my your avatar is so mezmorizing. Xeons are made for heavy work loads and constant work loads the 4790 is more of a gamer cpu. 

[Nacho Marco Segui]

2 minutes ago, danielporsh911 said:

I would agree with you and oh my your avatar is so mezmorizing. Xeons are made for heavy work loads and constant work loads the 4790 is more of a gamer cpu. 

 

No, the i7 is not for gamers...

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, danielporsh911 said:

I would agree with you and oh my your avatar is so mezmorizing. Xeons are made for heavy work loads and constant work loads the 4790 is more of a gamer cpu. 

common misconception, xeons and i7's basicly are the same silicon, in fact the xeon OP is planning on is for all intents and purposes just a different bin 4790.

[Laputacake]

IMO xeons on desktop boards aka 11xx unless cheaper are not worth it so just get the i7

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Laputacake said:

IMO xeons on desktop boards aka 11xx unless cheaper are not worth it so just get the i7

the deal is kinda just that they're cheaper  (oh, and ECC.)

[The Realist]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Xeon's are the same, sometimes minus the iGPU, and the overclock. They also support ECC.

Xeons are not the same if lets say a Xeon is clocked at 4.0 Ghz so is the i7 , if they both have 4 cores and 8 threads , its not the same Xeons are MADE for servers,rendering machines,hosting machines.Thats what they are best and they cannot be the same as a i7 4790k or 4790 for gaming since thats not what they are meant for they can be used for gaming but its not the same architecture,i7's and any "i" is made for home use Xeons are made for servers

[TheSuspect]

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the xeons more so come down to performance per dollar, while the desktop K parts are more expensive, and a tad faster.

 

if the budget for a Z chipset mobo and a K part is there, you honestly should. even if you wont OC it now, chances are it'll be a bit sluggish feeling in a few years, and then you can OC it to squeeze an extra year or so of lifespan out of it while you plan out your upgrade.

 

also, the 4790k comes out the box faster than the 4790, and the xeon.

Alright, thanks 8)

[The Realist]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

the deal is kinda just that they're cheaper  (oh, and ECC.)

What gamer is going to buy ECC memory for gaming?

[Laputacake]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

the deal is kinda just that they're cheaper  (oh, and ECC.)

Yea, the 1230 v3 is perfect but the higher models go to becoming more expensive than their core counterparts.

[Laputacake]

1 minute ago, The Realist said:

What gamer is going to buy ECC memory for gaming?

cus ECC give 10 fps innit.

[The Realist]

20 minutes ago, TheSuspect said:

Alright, I've already got a Xeon thread, but I've researched the Xeon a bit more and I've brought upon the title's question. Same as the other thread, all pros and cons of both chips since I'm still, well, iffy on my knowledge when it comes to Xeons. Also, I don't really care if it's oc'able or not. Wasn't going to oc the 4790k anyway.

 

*Edit: Will be used for gaming and often 3d rendering and will be paired with a 1070*

Why did you not say your going to do 3d rendering go for the Xeon since they are perfect for that,the gaming experience will not be the same but it will Hold up...

[danielporsh911]

1 minute ago, Laputacake said:

cus ECC give 10 fps innit.

Honestly ecc is useless for a gamer.

[TheSuspect]

1 minute ago, The Realist said:

Why did you not say your going to do 3d rendering go for the Xeon since they are perfect for that,the gaming experience will not be the same but it will Hold up...

How exactly is a Xeon different from an i7 in 3d rendering? They have the same number of cores and threads, right? (Sorry for my ignorance xd)

[Laputacake]

2 minutes ago, danielporsh911 said:

Honestly ecc is useless for a gamer.

Sorry, i must have forgotten the /s

[The Realist]

1 minute ago, TheSuspect said:

How exactly is a Xeon different from an i7 in 3d rendering? They have the same number of cores and threads, right? (Sorry for my ignorance xd)

The architecture is very different Xeon's are made for 3D Rendering,Servers,Host Machines and thats what there architecture is for the i7,i5,i3 is for home use  and thats why gamers use them usually Xeons are expensive because they offer you a little less performance in gaming but do offer you faster Rendering,Servers,Host Machines id say go for the Xeon since you plan on doing 3D Rendering which for a i7 is stressful even with the same amount of cores and threads Xeons hold up better

[TheSuspect]

3 minutes ago, The Realist said:

The architecture is very different Xeon's are made for 3D Rendering,Servers,Host Machines and thats what there architecture is for the i7,i5,i3 is for home use  and thats why gamers use them usually Xeons are expensive because they offer you a little less performance in gaming but do offer you faster Rendering,Servers,Host Machines id say go for the Xeon since you plan on doing 3D Rendering which for a i7 is stressful even with the same amount of cores and threads Xeons hold up better

Any benchmarks?

[manikyath]

10 minutes ago, The Realist said:

What gamer is going to buy ECC memory for gaming?

exactly.

 

4 minutes ago, The Realist said:

The architecture is very different

wrong. they're pretty much the complete exact same silicon.

[Laputacake]

3 minutes ago, TheSuspect said:

Any benchmarks?

They're the same except the I7 is clocked higher and allows for overclocking so if they're the same price get the 4790k. The only time xeons exceed I7s are on the 2011 platform including x99.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Laputacake said:

They're the same except the I7 is clocked higher

you pretty much explained where the whole "xeons suck for gaming" thing comes from.

 

xeons generally are clocked lower, in the i5/i7-like range this is usually pretty neglible, but up in the e5 range it can often be a very large difference, hence you never should put an 18 core xeon in a gaming rig, LINUS!