Upgrading from FX 8350 to i5 6600k, worth it?

[DebatED Nothing]

Title basically says it all, is it worth it to upgrade from an FX 8350 to an i5 6600k, or should I save a bit longer and spend more to get a large performance increase and to make the intel CPU and motherboard be viable for longer? Furthermore, will the performance increase be noticeable? I think I'm having some issues with several games due to CPU bottle-necking, and am certainly having CPU problems in games like KSP and other physics based games.

[Cryosec]

i6 6600k will be waaay better than the 8350, and for gaming it will be enough. If you intend to save money for something better (6700k?), you should consider saving cash for a newer GPU (that new RX480 maybe), just for a complete rig upgrade

[Thony]

18 minutes ago, Cryosec said:

i6 6600k 

Would be funny if they actually made i6 in future

 

Yes performance will be noticable and u get higher min FPS. It wont be lifechanging like when i went from Q8300 (2.66Ghz Quad CPU) to i7-4790.

 

Good for 1080p and 1440p gaming. But more cores is needed for 4K gaming.

 

i7 doesnt have that much value for gaming as u get with i5. Price difference is bigger than performance difference.

 

Only if u multitask a lot or while you game the i7 will perform better.

 

 

[Cryosec]

7 minutes ago, Thony said:

Would be funny if they actually made i6 in future

oops, wrong number ahaha didn't see that

[Sintezza]

This realy depends on which particular games you play and how you play them, which resolution and which particular GPU you are using.

But overall you basicly could say that an 6600K will be better, because it has better per core performance.

But how big that performance diffrence will impact game play, just highly depends on factors writen above.

[Vortez]

Yes it's definitely is worth it! 

 

[DebatED Nothing]

4 hours ago, Cryosec said:

i6 6600k will be waaay better than the 8350, and for gaming it will be enough. If you intend to save money for something better (6700k?), you should consider saving cash for a newer GPU (that new RX480 maybe), just for a complete rig upgrade

I was already planning on doing this build in a short while:

 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£194.99 @ Ebuyer) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£53.00) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£125.44 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£109.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint M9T 2TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£73.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£409.43 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply  (£109.02 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1139.84
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The 1070 is just a placeholder card, but I think I will be going for a 1070. Thoughts? (I know this isn't new builds and planning, but you know, while I've got someone's attention :P)

 

4 hours ago, Thony said:

Yes performance will be noticable and u get higher min FPS. It wont be lifechanging like when i went from Q8300 (2.66Ghz Quad CPU) to i7-4790.

 

Good for 1080p and 1440p gaming. But more cores is needed for 4K gaming.

 

i7 doesnt have that much value for gaming as u get with i5. Price difference is bigger than performance difference.

 

Only if u multitask a lot or while you game the i7 will perform better.

By multitask do you mean intensive stuff or just "having chrome and itunes open at the same time as a game"? Will many games in 1080p be affected by having the i5 VS an i7 or is it unlikely to affect most games outside of physics sims like KSP? (I have built a PC before, but basically got a friend to do parts selection for me, so never learned myself. Turns out he didn't know either, hence the 8350, shitty motherboard and the original terrible GPU (HD 7850, cost less than the CPU...))

3 hours ago, Sintezza said:

This realy depends on which particular games you play and how you play them, which resolution and which particular GPU you are using.

But overall you basicly could say that an 6600K will be better, because it has better per core performance.

But how big that performance diffrence will impact game play, just highly depends on factors writen above.

Given most games only tend to use a few cores and because I think I'm getting some noticeable frame drops from CPU usage being maxed out on a few cores whilst gaming do you think it'd help considerably? I'd most likely still be gaming in 1080p, maybe 1440p, and I'd probably have a 1070 at the time when I buy this CPU.

2 hours ago, Vortez said:

Yes it's definitely is worth it!

Thanks for the vid link

[Guest]

No, imo.

 

It's not enough of an increase to justify the cost. 

[DebatED Nothing]

33 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

No, imo.

 

It's not enough of an increase to justify the cost. 

Not even when you consider that I really want a node 202 for its size?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, DebatED Nothing said:

Not even when you consider that I really want a node 202 for its size?

Sure, but getting a k sku is pointless at that rate unless you're going to cram a 120mm AIO in there. 

 

And at that rate the performance boost is even lesser. 

[Nena Trinity]

X99 or wait for Zen...

[Moress]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

X99 or wait for Zen...

100% wait for Zen. If what AMD is claiming is true then the Zen line will blow skylake out of the water.

Also, with DX12 putting emphasis on multithreading youll get more power out of that 8350 than you would expect.

Will it be an upgrade, yes. Will it be worth it with whats around the corner, probably not.

[Sintezza]

I think that something for a mini itx system it would be worth it.

Something like an i5 basicly is nicely suited for a mini itx setup.

 

[Sintezza]

1 hour ago, Moress said:

 

Also, with DX12 putting emphasis on multithreading youll get more power out of that 8350 than you would expect.

 

Would be nice if thats true.

But till now we have not seen that happen.

The Ashes of singularity cpu benchmarks still showed that this particular game was still demending on the cpu per core performance, the extra cores of the FX8 core cpu´s still didnt show any major benefits.

No matter DX11 or DX12, ofc its only one game till now and basicly doesnt say anything but yeah.

[Moress]

19 minutes ago, Sintezza said:

Would be nice if thats true.

But till now we have not seen that happen.

The Ashes of singularity cpu benchmarks still showed that this particular game was still demending on the cpu per core performance, the extra cores of the FX8 core cpu´s still didnt show any major benefits.

No matter DX11 or DX12, ofc its only one game till now and basicly doesnt say anything but yeah.

True, but if you look at the battlefield series the fx series is amazing ppd. Since they use all 8 cores 

[Sintezza]

8 minutes ago, Moress said:

True, but if you look at the battlefield series the fx series is amazing ppd. Since they use all 8 cores 

Definitely we slowly do see some particular games taking advantages of having more threads availeble.

Especialy with highend gpu´s.

 

[Moress]

1 minute ago, Sintezza said:

Definitely we slowly do see some particular games taking some advantages of having more threads availeble.

 

Back on point though!

Yes it would be an decent upgrade, coming from a fellow 8350 owner.

But, with Zen around the corner and the 8350 still able to hold its own for the time being I would suggest waiting it out and maybe turning down some CPU intensive settings.

[Sintezza]

2 minutes ago, Moress said:

Back on point though!

Yes it would be an decent upgrade, coming from a fellow 8350 owner.

But, with Zen around the corner and the 8350 still able to hold its own for the time being I would suggest waiting it out and maybe turning down some CPU intensive settings.

 

Yes thats fair enough.

I still use a FX8350 myself on a daily base for allmost 4 years now.

 

[Moress]

1 minute ago, Sintezza said:

 

Yes thats fair enough.

I still use a FX8350 myself on a daily base for allmost 4 years now.

 

Im on year 2 for mine and it outlasted my friends 4770k so no complaints here.

[Suika]

6 minutes ago, Moress said:

Im on year 2 for mine and it outlasted my friends 4770k so no complaints here.

I highly doubt an FX chip would outlast even an i7-2600k.

[Moress]

1 minute ago, Suika said:

I highly doubt an FX chip would outlast even an i7-2600k.

Well ask him and the major CPU bottleneck he had. Im not looking to argue with an Intel fanboy so stop trying to cause one

[Suika]

1 minute ago, Moress said:

Well ask him and the major CPU bottleneck he had. Im not looking to argue with an Intel fanboy so stop trying to cause one

The i7-4770k has better single and multithreaded performance than every FX chip to date. I don't know who, but one of you guys have absolutely no understanding of how a bottleneck actually works.

[Moress]

3 minutes ago, Suika said:

The i7-4770k has better single and multithreaded performance than every FX chip to date. I don't know who, but one of you guys have absolutely no understanding of how a bottleneck actually works.

Okay now that you have proven youre superior to me in ever way possible lets end the de-rail here

[Suika]

10 minutes ago, Moress said:

Okay now that you have proven youre superior to me in ever way possible lets end the de-rail here

The only thing I've suggested, not proven, is that either you or your friend have fallen to misinformation.

 

This is not a derailed topic, this is on the topic of which chip OP should chose. You've elected to argue that the FX-8350 is superior to some of Intel's highest end consumer chips, and I've elected to argue otherwise.

[i_build_nanosuits]

the core i5-6600K is GREATLY superior to even the FX-9590 in gaming...hands down...no contest.

The FX is old and slow and there are MANY CPU's that perform better in games...even an i5-2500K perform better than an highly overclocked AMD FX CPU in games.

Go check benchmarks.