Budget z170 board

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Gigabyte yes ASUS no...

 

26 minutes ago, nunocv said:

I have been reading in the forum, and people say that MSI's boards are faulty or low quality components compared to Asus and GIgabyte... Is that true?

 

This is the most recent full industry data we have on the matter...

 

 

Point is the difference in quality is minimal AT BEST.

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

 

 

This is the most recent full industry data we have on the matter...

 

 

Point is the difference in quality is minimal AT BEST.

So it is still Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS & Asrock at last?

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

So it is still Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS & Asrock at last?

I mean yes, but the difference was minimal across the board...

 

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

I mean yes, but the difference was minimal across the board...

 

Fun fact people told me my MSI 970 Gaming board would burn with a FX 8-core in it, still no fire?

[LeStringMan]

21 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

 

 

This is the most recent full industry data we have on the matter...

 

Point is the difference in quality is minimal AT BEST.

They have more recent data than that, which shows that ASUS has the lowest, then Gigabyte, followed closely by ASRock (almost a tie), and MSI is last, although all 4 are under 3% still, but yes i agree the difference in quality between the 4 is pretty much none.

[LeStringMan]

22 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Fun fact people told me my MSI 970 Gaming board would burn with a FX 8-core in it, still no fire?

Ewww MSI AM3/3+ boards.  

[Curufinwe_wins]

23 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Fun fact people told me my MSI 970 Gaming board would burn with a FX 8-core in it, still no fire?

So a 970 is stressed by the 125W TDP processors, but we just don't want people throwing 9590s in there (or doing heavy overclocks). Because fire will ensure.

 

 

1 minute ago, LeStringMan said:

They have more recent data than that, which shows that ASUS has the lowest, then Gigabyte, followed closely by ASRock (almost a tie), and MSI is last, although all 4 are under 3% still, but yes i agree the difference in quality between the 4 is pretty much none.

I honestly haven't seen it. I only know ASUS has quite literally the worst CS department of any company I've ever bought things from (and that includes ASRock's nearly non-existent one).

[LeStringMan]

4 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

So a 970 is stressed by the 125W TDP processors, but we just don't want people throwing 9590s in there (or doing heavy overclocks). Because fire will ensure.

 

 

I honestly haven't seen it. I only know ASUS has quite literally the worst CS department of any company I've ever bought things from (and that includes ASRock's nearly non-existent one).

970 boards can handle a 9590, it just depends on the power delivery of said board, MSI vrms on AM3/3+ boards, are of low quality, most don't have heatsinks, and to top it off they have no throttling function, so the boards will literally just burn themselves up.

 

(ASRock and Asus have CS departments?)

Here is their most recent data also:http://www.hardware.fr/articles/944-2/cartes-meres.html

[nunocv]

1 minute ago, LeStringMan said:

970 boards can handle a 9590, it just depends on the power delivery of said board, MSI vrms on AM3/3+ boards, are of low quality, most don't have heatsinks, and to top it off they have no throttling function, so the boards will literally just burn themselves up.

 

(ASRock and Asus have CS departments?)

Here is their most recent data also:http://www.hardware.fr/articles/944-2/cartes-meres.html

And the vrms on the MSI z170 gaming m3 are good quality?

[LeStringMan]

3 minutes ago, nunocv said:

And the vrms on the MSI z170 gaming m3 are good quality?

That i do not know, however it will probably fine, unless you plan on breaking some overclocking records. Like we have mentioned though all of the board manufacturers are pretty close in terms of quality at this point, MSI and ASRock have really stepped it up in the past few years, so i would say buy whichever one has the features you want, for whatever price you are willing to pay for a board.

[Nena Trinity]

18 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

So a 970 is stressed by the 125W TDP processors, but we just don't want people throwing 9590s in there (or doing heavy overclocks). Because fire will ensure.

 

 

I honestly haven't seen it. I only know ASUS has quite literally the worst CS department of any company I've ever bought things from (and that includes ASRock's nearly non-existent one).

The Krait boards only have a 4+1 VRM I think... While the Gaming model have 6+2 and a decent heat-sink! (I even added a VRM fan just to be sure that it wont overheat during the summer or if I decide to OC in the future...)

[nunocv]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

The Krait boards only have a 4+1 VRM I think... While the Gaming model have 6+2 and a decent heat-sink! (I even added a VRM fan just to be sure that it wont overheat during the summer or if I decide to OC in the future...)

What about the VRM of the Asus Z170-p?

[Nena Trinity]

3 minutes ago, nunocv said:

What about the VRM of the Asus Z170-p?

Those boards should have good VRM but so does the MSI one!

[nunocv]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Those boards should have good VRM but so does the MSI one!

But which would you recommend, Msi Z170 gaming m3 or Asus z170-p?
(Msi is 10€ cheaper than the Asus )

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

The Krait boards only have a 4+1 VRM I think... While the Gaming model have 6+2 and a decent heat-sink! (I even added a VRM fan just to be sure that it wont overheat during the summer or if I decide to OC in the future...)

The kraft actually does have a heatsink,  but yea I know it has to do with vrm quality, but it's more a reflection of what amd will allow aibs to put on the mobo. They don't even officially support the 9590 on anything other than the 990 chipset. 

 

3 minutes ago, nunocv said:

But which would you recommend, Msi Z170 gaming m3 or Asus z170-p?
(Msi is 10€ cheaper than the Asus )

Intel had much higher minimim requirements for component quality than amd does on their motherboards (amd doesn't even recommend the 9590 on anything other than the 990 flagship chipset). 

 

It doesn't matter for Intel boards. 

[Nena Trinity]

4 hours ago, nunocv said:

But which would you recommend, Msi Z170 gaming m3 or Asus z170-p?
(Msi is 10€ cheaper than the Asus )

MSI

4 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

The kraft actually does have a heatsink,  but yea I know it has to do with vrm quality, but it's more a reflection of what amd will allow aibs to put on the mobo. They don't even officially support the 9590 on anything other than the 990 chipset. 

 

Intel had much higher minimim requirements for component quality than amd does on their motherboards (amd doesn't even recommend the 9590 on anything other than the 990 flagship chipset). 

 

It doesn't matter for Intel boards. 

Krait does have a smaller heat sink and few VRMs... (you can use a 125w CPU if you add a fan but that is not advised...)

[nunocv]

Asus Z170 Gaming Pro vs MSI z170 Gaming M3

Which one is the better choice? Asus is 16€ more expensive

[Skiiwee29]

15 minutes ago, nunocv said:

Which one is the better choice? Asus is 16€ more expensive

It really comes down to feature set that the boards give you. They will both give you the same Chipset, which is the Z170 and should give you similar Overclocking ability. So really, just comes to what you need on the board for connectors and looks.

[nunocv]

1 minute ago, legacy99 said:

It really comes down to feature set that the boards give you. They will both give you the same Chipset, which is the Z170 and should give you similar Overclocking ability. So really, just comes to what you need on the board for connectors and looks.

Lets put it this way: Are the bonus features of the Asus, and Doom(Doom comes with the asus one) worth the 16€?

[Skiiwee29]

8 minutes ago, nunocv said:

Lets put it this way: Are the bonus features of the Asus, and Doom(Doom comes with the asus one) worth the 16€?

That's really only something you can decide. Will you play doom? Will you use the extra features that Asus comes with? If not, go with the cheaper board. I personally would go with the MSI board, but I only build with MSI so I am a little Bias on my answer. 

[nunocv]

7 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

That's really only something you can decide. Will you play doom? Will you use the extra features that Asus comes with? If not, go with the cheaper board. I personally would go with the MSI board, but I only build with MSI so I am a little Bias on my answer. 

Does the Asus has any features besides SLI that matter?

[Skiiwee29]

12 minutes ago, nunocv said:

Does the Asus has any features besides SLI that matter?

Alot of the features will be software side, not necessarily board side. Someone with more Asus knowledge can answer that question since I am not familiar with it. As far as on-board board features, they are pretty much the same. 

[nunocv]

17 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Alot of the features will be software side, not necessarily board side. Someone with more Asus knowledge can answer that question since I am not familiar with it. As far as on-board board features, they are pretty much the same. 

So if I wont SLI, it is not worth? Software or you mean bloatware? Ahaha

[Skiiwee29]

2 hours ago, nunocv said:

So if I wont SLI, it is not worth? Software or you mean bloatware? Ahaha

If your getting a Z170 board, as long as its not itx or mATX it will support SLI/Crossfire usually, so SLI is not an issue. If you plan to NOT use SLI, then maybe you should look or a full featured mATX board. They are usually a little cheaper yet. 

[nunocv]

Someone here has used this motherboard or the gaming 5 or 7 that can give me some opinions of they are?