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3 Core + HyperThreading Vs 4 Core (Intel)

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So the results are in...turns out 3 cores + HT is slightly faster at multi-threaded loads.

Single-threaded performance is the same...but since most softwares will not use hyper-threading as well as cinebench does i think it's safe to assume

that a true 4 core chip like a core i5 would perform slightly better than this overall...but for video rendering and other fully predicteable multi-threaded loads

the 3 core +HT would be just as good if not a bit better...

 

Here are the screenshots of my runs...it says 3.5ghz but it was running at 4.2ghz and all the other settings remained the same...and i'm typing this on the 3C +HT :P

You can see 4C +HT higher in the list the 868 was my attempt at a world record (LOL) i think this was 4.4ghz or something (My CPU is a dud)

 

4 cores, no HT :

 

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3 Cores + HT :

 

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EDIT:  Playing DOOM right now and it's the same as 4C + HT...so for gaming, defenetly not much difference between 3 or 4 cores...

 

 

Would like some feedback on which one would be superior over the other when clock speed and architecture remains constant. Been searching around in google with no definite answer and would really appreciate some help from the community.

 

Edit:  Should of mentioned why I asked in the first place, sorry. Due to Linus's virtualization gaming videos, I was wondering if 5820k clocked at 4.0 split into two systems would perform better then a similarly clocked i5.

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intel doesnt make a 3 core CPU

but the 3 core hyperthreaded one would perform better in every case

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8 minutes ago, iLoiter said:

Would like some feedback on which one would be superior over the other when clock speed and architecture remains constant. Been searching around in google with no definite answer and would really appreciate some help from the community.

3 core CPUs don't exist.

 

Edit: From intel

 

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1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

3 core CPUs don't exist.

 

They do exist however intel doesn't make any (anymore, not sure if they ever did). AMD however has 3 core CPUs.

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4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

intel doesnt make a 3 core CPU

 

4 minutes ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

3 core CPUs don't exist.

 

Intel doesn't make any but AMD does (or used to). Yas dey do, as in tri core CPUs (here's me sitting here with my cardboard PC about to get an athlon x3...which is a tri core CPU :))

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1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

 

Yas dey do (here's me sitting here with my cardboard PC about to get an athlon x3...which is a tri core CPU :))

I meant in intel, I didn't know if AMD made them. 

 

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4 minutes ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

3 core CPUs don't exist.

 

wrong, but intel doesn't make any.

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

if you encounter a triple core CPU these days... its worth more as a display unit than as a processor most likely.

I'm typing on one right now. In fact, it's my daily driver. Can even handle console streaming and potato games.

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Should of mentioned why I asked in the first place, sorry. Due to Linus's virtualization gaming videos, I was wondering if 5820k clocked at 4.0 split into two systems would perform better then a similarly clocked i5.

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1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

I meant in intel, I didn't know if AMD made them. 

 

Also I want a pic of your PC, mainly the case.

Well I'm building it so...here's a build log :) 

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1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

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I should've done that before I had a case :P

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5 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

 

Intel doesn't make any but AMD does (or used to). Yas dey do, as in tri core CPUs (here's me sitting here with my cardboard PC about to get an athlon x3...which is a tri core CPU :))

AMD doesnt have hyperthreading...

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

AMD doesnt have hyperthreading...

Well technically Zen is gonna have it so...not exactly true? (I guess xD)

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3 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Well technically Zen is gonna have it so...not exactly true? (I guess xD)

oh, and zen totally exist right now, i can go to a store and buy it and see the hyperthreading with my 3 eyes, right?

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

oh, and zen totally exist right now, i can go to a store and buy it and see the hyperthreading with my 3 eyes, right?

It does exist, I have one, here's a picture proof:

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12 minutes ago, manikyath said:

if you encounter a triple core CPU these days... its worth more as a display unit than as a processor most likely.

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3 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

It does exist, I have one, here's a picture proof:

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hee hee hee

lies, I can only see that with 2 eyes not 3

therefore its fake, like i stated in my previous post

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

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pretty sure thats a 6-core man.

 

they're bodged siamese cores, but they're cores ;)

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

pretty sure thats a 6-core man.

 

they're bodged siamese cores, but they're cores ;)

3 modules and 6 physical cores so yes, it is a 6-core :) 

Looking at my signature are we now? Well too bad there's nothing here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here :) 

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

pretty sure thats a 6-core man.

 

they're bodged siamese cores, but they're cores ;)

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7 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

fx6300

Nothing he said was made invalid by mentioning that CPU.

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1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

3 modules and 6 physical cores so yes, it is a 6-core :) 

it can be argued that each module is "one and a half core" but that still wouldnt be triple core.

 

difference between hyperthread and AMD's modules is pretty simple:

- hyperthread is one core, it may be a dang beefy one, but its only one core. this core has the "I/O" to handle two threads at once, and shares its resources between them

- AMD's modules has two actual cores, but the "lesser used" parts are shared, beyond that the two threads do not interact.

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Just now, JoeyDM said:

Nothing he said was made invalid by mentioning that CPU.

It was a joke. Because everyone sees more cores and more ghz means more performance!

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

It was a joke. Because everyone sees more cores and more ghz means more performance!

I'm aware. And I'm saying that the FX6300 is exactly what he said, "its worth more as a display unit than as a processor most likely." It would make a good target on a wall. I consider that a display unit.

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