Posted June 7, 2016 Hi guys!!! I'm going to upgrade my CPU from Intel Pentium G3240 to these 3 choices: 1. i5-4690k - $244.72 2. i7-4790 - $307.31 3. i7-4790k - $346.29 I currently have the following Motherboard - Asus H81M-K (yeah. like a very cheap motherboard) Memory - Kingston HyperX 4GBx2 1333 or 1600 (I forgot) SSD - Kingston SSD v300 120GB HDD - 40GB Hard Drive from my PS3 ( I lost my 1TB Western Digital Blue because of ant infestation, DAMN YOU ANTS!!!) GPU - Sapphire r7 265 PSU - FSP AurumS Gold 600W I'll be using mg PC for Gaming plus Lumion, Google Sketchup + Vray, CAD, 3DS Max. My questions are: 1. Which CPU should i get? 2. if the i7 K, is the K worth it?. 3. Will my motherboard be a problem ? Thanks everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 You cannot OC much on a H81 motherboard so a "K" series i5 doesn't do anything more than a "Non k" Unlocked i7's like the 4770k (3.5GHz, turbo 3.9GHz) and 4790k (4GHz, Turbo 4.4GHz) are slightly faster than their locked counter parts 4770 (3.4GHz, Turbo 3.9GHz) and 4790 (3.6GHz, Turbo 4GHz) I'd get an i7 or Xeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Why don't you get the i5 4690 non k? It is 225 at newegg? no use buying a k since your board won't overlook it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, martheus25 said: 1. Which CPU should i get? 2. if the i7 K, is the K worth it?. Normally I'd vote for the 4790. But, given that you'll be using some pretty havy CPU apps, you could get the K version and make use of those extra 400mhz. 14 minutes ago, martheus25 said: 3. Will my motherboard be a problem ? It just won't allow you to OC. Nor expand to 16gb, which could be useful. Outside of that, it'll be fine. Want to help researchers improve the lives on millions of people with just your computer? Then join World Community Grid distributed computing, and start helping the world to solve it's most difficult problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author Im from Philippines so no Newegg for me, im thinking of getting those CPU because i may not be upgrading for 3 years on the CPU side if it can do that and upgrade my MOBO if i need to overclock. Xeon is not available also here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 How about a skylake upgrade? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.99 @ Newegg)CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($40.98 @ Newegg)Total: $395.94Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-07 01:18 EDT-0400 We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, martheus25 said: Im from Philippines so no Newegg for me, im thinking of getting those CPU because i may not be upgrading for 3 years on the CPU side if it can do that and upgrade my MOBO if i need to overclock. Xeon is not available also here. If you don't want to upgrade your CPU for a while it's worth it to upgrade to DDR4 and an overclockable skylake. Those will last quite a bit more with games caring about memory bandwith more and more these days. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author 15 minutes ago, Imakuni said: Normally I'd vote for the 4790. But, given that you'll be using some pretty havy CPU apps, you could get the K version and make use of those extra 400mhz. It just won't allow you to OC. Nor expand to 16gb, which could be useful. Outside of that, it'll be fine. So if im getting the 4790K my motherboard will not be a problem if im not overclocking or expanding right away right? because ill be upgrading the next time i have some extra budget, but its not on my priority list atm? its not going to explode or melt or something. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author 14 minutes ago, Energycore said: How about a skylake upgrade? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($254.99 @ Newegg)CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($40.98 @ Newegg)Total: $395.94Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-07 01:18 EDT-0400 I REAAALLY want to go skylake too but unlike my haswell system i could just buy a cpu and be okay with it for the meantime and upgrade my motherboard and then my ram etc. Unlike with Skylake ill be buying the 3 component at once. how about if i buy a very cheap motherboard with ddr3 memory and an i7 k skylake. would that be okay? hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, martheus25 said: I REAAALLY want to go skylake too but unlike my haswell system i could just buy a cpu and be okay with it for the meantime and upgrade my motherboard and then my ram etc. Unlike with Skylake ill be buying the 3 component at once. how about if i buy a very cheap motherboard with ddr3 memory and an i7 k skylake. would that be okay? hmm Bad idea. Don't use Skylake with DDR3; if you want those newer processors, then you either get DDR$ or you are dumb. Besides, you should invest into the GPU as well. It'll help both with gaming and your work apps. Want to help researchers improve the lives on millions of people with just your computer? Then join World Community Grid distributed computing, and start helping the world to solve it's most difficult problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, martheus25 said: I REAAALLY want to go skylake too but unlike my haswell system i could just buy a cpu and be okay with it for the meantime and upgrade my motherboard and then my ram etc. Unlike with Skylake ill be buying the 3 component at once. how about if i buy a very cheap motherboard with ddr3 memory and an i7 k skylake. would that be okay? hmm You could do this. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($67.98 @ Newegg)Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)Total: $292.96Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-07 01:37 EDT-0400 With Philippines equivalents, of course. But the new platform will last more than Haswell. It's not overclockable unless you're one of the bravest but it goes for less than a i7-4790K for a whole new platform. You can also sell the Haswell Pentium + Motherboard + RAM. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Imakuni said: 4 minutes ago, martheus25 said: Keep in mind Skylake can't use normal DDR3. The voltage on normal DDR3 is too high and Skylake processors don't like that, so you'd have to buy special DDR3 RAM for it. That much defeats the purpose of trying DDR3 on the Skylake. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author 11 minutes ago, Imakuni said: Bad idea. Don't use Skylake with DDR3; if you want those newer processors, then you either get DDR$ or you are dumb. Besides, you should invest into the GPU as well. It'll help both with gaming and your work apps. I know..... hahaha. Thanks for the replies btw. I just can't get them all so my plan is upgrading bit by bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author 11 minutes ago, Energycore said: Keep in mind Skylake can't use normal DDR3. The voltage on normal DDR3 is too high and Skylake processors don't like that, so you'd have to buy special DDR3 RAM for it. That much defeats the purpose of trying DDR3 on the Skylake. Thanks for this. i didnt know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author 13 minutes ago, Energycore said: You could do this. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($67.98 @ Newegg)Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)Total: $292.96Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-07 01:37 EDT-0400 With Philippines equivalents, of course. But the new platform will last more than Haswell. It's not overclockable unless you're one of the bravest but it goes for less than a i7-4790K for a whole new platform. You can also sell the Haswell Pentium + Motherboard + RAM. The cheapest B150 here is from MSI the MSI B150M PRO-VD. i7-6700K - $357.52 i7-6700 - $318.52 i5-660K - $247.02 i5-6600 - $227.51 MSI B150M PRO - VD - $83.42 G.Skills RipjawsV 8GB Dual 2400 - $42.69 (Cheapest and its Red) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, martheus25 said: The cheapest B150 here is from MSI the MSI B150M PRO-VD. i7-6700K - $357.52 i7-6700 - $318.52 i5-660K - $247.02 i5-6600 - $227.51 MSI B150M PRO - VD - $83.42 G.Skills RipjawsV 8GB Dual 2400 - $42.69 (Cheapest and its Red) I can vouch for the RAM as a good choice. Honestly, what you should look for is the cheapest motherboard with 4 RAM slots so you can throw in another 2x4gb kit if you need 16GB in the future - we're pushing against the limit of 8GB RAM these days. But if you want to go with a cheap motherboard with only 2, that's fine. You just won't be able to throw in another 2x4 kit for the easy upgrade. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Also see if you can find an i5-6400 or i5-6500 for cheaper. The 6600 is only marginally better than the 6500 and even the 2.7GHz clocked 6400 isn't so bad. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author @Energycore I'll ask my wife if it's okay because I'll be $137.16 over budget from the i7 4790K. But maybe she'll agree. What if not, is the i7-4790K be good for another 3 years? Of course I'll upgrade my motherboard and RAM them. Argh!! I can't decide I really want to upgrade to Skylake. hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 1 minute ago, martheus25 said: @Energycore I'll ask my wife if it's okay because I'll be $137.16 over budget from the i7 4790K. But maybe she'll agree. What if not, is the i7-4790K be good for another 3 years? Of course I'll upgrade my motherboard and RAM them. Argh!! I can't decide I really want to upgrade to Skylake. hahahaha If it comes down to being unable to upgrade the platform, go with the i7-4790. Not the K, as the additional price for the K version is wasted without a motherboard capable of overclocking. We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones) You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread) Computer Specs: Spoiler Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent) Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3 Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike" Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500 AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550) Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red) Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 Author 7 minutes ago, Energycore said: Also see if you can find an i5-6400 or i5-6500 for cheaper. The 6600 is only marginally better than the 6500 and even the 2.7GHz clocked 6400 isn't so bad. Thanks for all the replies!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2016 if your stuck on the mobo get a non k i7 if not get a k i5 or i7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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