AMD Zen

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

 

I might be a little out of the loop, is Cannonlake still a thing?

I think maybe 10% faster than Skylake... Intel releases CPUs with 5% IPC improvement over the previous one... Cannonlake is the successor to Kabylake 

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

What... PCIe lanes!? 16 is waaaaayyyy more than anyone would need (Intel logic) 

22 or 38 lanes for current AMD chipsets...so as you see, both more (although it drops down to 16 lanes or somewhere around it when they use PCIe 3.0 instead of PCIe 2.0)

[CostcoSamples]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

What... PCIe lanes!? 16 is waaaaayyyy more than anyone would need (Intel logic) 

Lol so stupid right.  I have one GPU and a PCIE SSD (FROM INTEL MIND YOU!!) and am forced to run my GPU at PCIE x8.  Not a big deal on a single GTX 970, but may potentially be an issue on a 1080.

[DXMember]

4 minutes ago, typographie said:

Right. Like I said, "tweaks," not new functionality.

 

Kaby Lake is getting native support for Thunderbolt 3 and USB 3.1, which Skylake requires peripheral devices to support.

Name 5 devices you currently use that require USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt 3

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, DXMember said:

what? no... Skylake was always 14nm, I'm talking about Cannonlake... We were supposed to get Cannonlake in 2016 Q3 ~ Q4

I meant that Skylake was supposed to be a 10nm chip but they could not achieve that in time for its launch. So Kabylake is gonna do that instead 

[Dash Lambda]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

What... PCIe lanes!? 16 is waaaaayyyy more than anyone would need (Intel logic) 

That actually does confuse me a bit. I mean, sure, 16 plus the chipset is enough for dual SLI plus NVMe, but that cuts bandwidth to the devices and reaches the platform's capacity in a rather modest configuration...

It's a bit sinful to have a mainstream gaming platform that can't properly and fully support something like dual-GPUs.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I meant that Skylake was supposed to be a 10nm chip but they could not achieve that in time for its launch. So Kabylake is gonna do that instead 

Or so I have read 

[DarkBlade2117]

17 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

Personally, at this point, I just want to wait a bit anyway. If you buy AMD right now you'll get a shit processor, and if you buy Intel you'll be paying out your ass because Intel knows they're the only option if you want a good processor. Zen looks promising, but I'm less interested in the architecture itself and more interested in there being actual competition. Without competition, you get $1,600 Extreme Editions and chips with more iGPU than CPU.

Thats why I am getting a i3-6100 and Z170 board and waiting for all their fanboys to sell the 6700k's used on ebay or /r/hardwareswap while they have a circljerk over Kaby Lake

[typographie]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I meant that Skylake was supposed to be a 10nm chip but they could not achieve that in time for its launch. So Kabylake is gonna do that instead 

Kaby Lake is still 14 nm, which made news a few months back because it breaks the "tick-tock" cadence. That's three CPUs (Broadwell/Skylake/Kaby Lake) on 14 nm.

 

Cannonlake in 2017 will be Intel's first 10 nm CPU.

[DXMember]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I meant that Skylake was supposed to be a 10nm chip but they could not achieve that in time for its launch. So Kabylake is gonna do that instead 

what are you even talking about? you're being crazy! that's insane!

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Or so I have read 

 

you have read incorrectly

[PCGuy_5960]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

22 or 38 lanes for current AMD chipsets...so as you see, both more (although it drops down to 16 lanes or somewhere around it when they use PCIe 3.0 instead of PCIe 2.0)

Really! ? I heard that they would have 60 lanes... Sorry then... I mean F*ck you Intel and AMD. We want more! 

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, DXMember said:

what are you even talking about? you're being crazy! that's insane!

Wait Kabylake isn't going to shrink the die? 

[DXMember]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Really! ? I heard that they would have 60 lanes... Sorry then... I mean F*ck you Intel and AMD. We want more! 

that's the current AM3+ socket and it's 970, 990 chipsets

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, DXMember said:

what are you even talking about? you're being crazy! that's insane!

I found that on a website some time ago 

[typographie]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Wait Kabylake isn't going to shrink the die? 

http://techreport.com/news/30216/intel-computex-keynote-confirms-kaby-lake-and-optane-for-2016

"These processors will be fabricated on the same 14nm process as Broadwell and Skylake before them, and thus they represent the first break in Intel's long-standing 'tick-tock' cadence of CPU releases."

[Mr.Meerkat]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Really! ? I heard that they would have 60 lanes... Sorry then... I mean F*ck you Intel and AMD. We want more! 

CURRENT chipsets not the new am4 chipsets  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

http://techreport.com/news/30216/intel-computex-keynote-confirms-kaby-lake-and-optane-for-2016

"These processors will be fabricated on the same 14nm process as Broadwell and Skylake before them, and thus they represent the first break in Intel's long-standing 'tick-tock' cadence of CPU releases."

Ok. I was misinformed 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

CURRENT chipsets not the new am4 chipsets  

At first I saw 28 PCIe lanes and didn't go ahead and read the entire post :-P ...

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

At first I saw 28 PCIe lanes and didn't go ahead and read the entire post :-P ...

28? where did I write 28? I wrote 22 and 38 lel  

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

28? where did I write 28? I wrote 22 and 38 lel  

I meant 22... Accidentally confused them with the 5820Ks. Lol ? 

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I meant 22... Accidentally confused them with the 5820Ks. Lol ? 

Hee hee hee, it's all guld  

[Dash Lambda]

10 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Thats why I am getting a i3-6100 and Z170 board and waiting for all their fanboys to sell the 6700k's used on ebay or /r/hardwareswap while they have a circljerk over Kaby Lake

You see, when I buy hardware, I have a thing about buying the current generation and buying it new. So I'm basically at the mercy of the MSRP.

[DarkBlade2117]

2 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

You see, when I buy hardware, I have a thing about buying the current generation and buying it new. So I'm basically at the mercy of the MSRP.

Fuck that, if I know I am getting ripped off I'll tak eadvtange of as many fanboys as possible to get good deals. I mean hell, 970's are going for $210 right now on /r/hardwareswap and I seen at least 2 980Ti's for for $350-$400.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Fuck that, if I know I am getting ripped off I'll tak eadvtange of as many fanboys as possible to get good deals. I mean hell, 970's are going for $210 right now on /r/hardwareswap and I seen at least 2 980Ti's for for $350-$400.

Well not for long... Shops will stop selling them after a while... (So buy them as quickly as you can) 

[DarkBlade2117]

5 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Well not for long... Shops will stop selling them after a while... (So buy them as quickly as you can) 

Reddit exist you know? Where things are a hell of a lot cheaper.