GTX 1080 Founders Edition Thermal Throttling

[CostcoSamples]

So there has been a TON of hype around this card.  One thing that very few are talking about is the issue of thermal throttling on the founders edition.  The issue seems to be unreported by most sites, but that might be due to their use of an open test bench platform.  Apparently, when using it inside a regular computer case, thermals can get pretty high, causing thermal throttling.  Given the $100 premium for the founders edition, this is a load of crap.  Hopefully once custom cooled versions are out the issue will be solved.  

 

Founders Edition = Suckers Edition 

 

check out this video analysis

 

Other interesting points to consider:

- 1080 is only 2% faster than a MSI Lightning 980 Ti

- 1080 is 10% SLOWER than OC'd Titan X

- 1080 is NOT faster than 980 SLI, except in VR where the new simultaneous multi-projection feature makes the 1080 more efficient and thus faster, but for VR only.

 

In conclusion, yes the 1080 is awesome but lets keep in mind that the Founders Edition is actually a huge rip off and NOBODY should ever buy it.  If you are smart you will wait for 3rd party cards with factory OC and custom cooling in order to properly take advantage of it's potential.  If you already have a 980 Ti or Titan X, and especially if your 980 Ti has a factory OC, this is not an upgrade for you.

[Matt_Twinkletoes]

Surprising it would have heat issues with such a low TDP 

[Stefan1024]

You just watched this video, did you?

And yes, it looks like the FE is a terrible value.

[positivePXL]

Definitely not the first post we have seen on this. Most people with half a brain haven't even almost considered actually buying a FE card.

[CostcoSamples]

2 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

You just watched this video, did you?

 

yes, that's the one I linked in my post

[CostcoSamples]

1 minute ago, positivePXL said:

Definitely not the first post we have seen on this. Most people with half a brain haven't even almost considered actually buying a FE card.

Yeah, most people are smarter than that.  Just thought I'd bring it up because some people might not have seen it yet.

[Stefan1024]

1 minute ago, CostcoSamples said:

yes, that's the one I linked in my post

haha, I didn't even had to read that much of the post to know.

[Guest]

The founders edition was meant for "People who want premium NVIDIA components on launch" 

[CostcoSamples]

1 minute ago, Ronnie76 said:

The founders edition was meant for "People who want premium NVIDIA components on launch" 

"People who want premium NVIDIA components on launch" = Fanboys?  

 

I guess that makes sense.  There are people who are willing to pay an extra $100 just because they get the feels knowing its Nvidia.

[Matt_Twinkletoes]

1 minute ago, CostcoSamples said:

 

Maybe if they're water cooling....

[Enderman]

Its funny how everyone is quoting that video without any proof that its real

 

what kind of benchmark is "various 2160p benchmarks" or "pc games hardware"

this definitely seems like BS

 

especially since pretty much ALL REAL REVIEWERS such as LTT, jayztwocents, hardware canucks, etc... all show that the 1080 does NOT throttle

also that it is better than 980 SLI, 980ti, and titan X by more than just a bit

 

 

 

You must be really gullible if you're going to believe 1 video from a random youtube channel with 26k subs over 20 professional reviews from reputable sources

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

"People who want premium NVIDIA components on launch" = Fanboys?  

 

I guess that makes sense.  There are people who are willing to pay an extra $100 just because they get the feels knowing its Nvidia.

I mean if you wanna drop your GPU and not want to worry about it, don't worry, you got the founder edition man. 

[GtaSeriesFan]

16 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

So there has been a TON of hype around this card.  One thing that very few are talking about is the issue of thermal throttling on the founders edition.  The issue seems to be unreported by most sites, but that might be due to their use of an open test bench platform.  Apparently, when using it inside a regular computer case, thermals can get pretty high, causing thermal throttling.  Given the $100 premium for the founders edition, this is a load of crap.  Hopefully once custom cooled versions are out the issue will be solved.  

 

Founders Edition = Suckers Edition 

 

check out this video analysis

 

Other interesting points to consider:

- 1080 is only 2% faster than a MSI Lightning 980 Ti

- 1080 is 10% SLOWER than OC'd Titan X

- 1080 is NOT faster than 980 SLI, except in VR where the new simultaneous multi-projection feature makes the 1080 more efficient and thus faster, but for VR only.

 

In conclusion, yes the 1080 is awesome but lets keep in mind that the Founders Edition is actually a huge rip off and NOBODY should ever buy it.  If you are smart you will wait for 3rd party cards with factory OC and custom cooling in order to properly take advantage of it's potential.  If you already have a 980 Ti or Titan X, and especially if your 980 Ti has a factory OC, this is not an upgrade for you.

just gabage get used 980 sli for around the same price or used 980 TI even cheaper=better deal

[othertomperson]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Its funny how everyone is quoting that video without any proof that its real

 

what kind of benchmark is "various 2160p benchmarks" or "pc games hardware"

this definitely seems like BS

 

especially since pretty much ALL REAL REVIEWERS such as LTT, jayztwocents, hardware canucks, etc... all show that the 1080 does NOT throttle

also that it is better than 980 SLI, 980ti, and titan X by more than just a bit

 

 

 

You must be really gullible if you're going to believe 1 video from a random youtube channel with 26k subs over 20 professional reviews from reputable sources

 

It's worth pointing out, too, that AdoredTV openly admits to not having ever seen this card in person. He is using secondary research. As such you should look at his sources and analyse those, rather then himself.

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

It's worth pointing out, too, that AdoredTV openly admits to not having ever seen this card in person. He is using secondary research. As such you should look at his sources and analyse those, rather then himself.

yeah theres no way a guy with 26k subs would get a 1080 for review before it launches

 

still, real reviews show the 1080 performing well, and jayztwocents 1080 was turboing to like 1800 or more with 50% fan speed

if it turbos, that means its not thermal throttling

[CostcoSamples]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Its funny how everyone is quoting that video without any proof that its real

 

what kind of benchmark is "various 2160p benchmarks" or "pc games hardware"

this definitely seems like BS

 

especially since pretty much ALL REAL REVIEWERS such as LTT, jayztwocents, hardware canucks, etc... all show that the 1080 does NOT throttle

also that it is better than 980 SLI, 980ti, and titan X by more than just a bit

 

 

 

You must be really gullible if you're going to believe 1 video from a random youtube channel with 26k subs over 20 professional reviews from reputable sources

 

Oh come on now, don't get all butt hurt about it.  He posted links in the video description to his sources.  

The following is from Tom's Hardware (are they professional enough for you?)

 

" The 1080 hits its temperature target by dropping the GPU's clock rate. During a gaming loop, it falls all the way down to its base frequency, leaving nothing left of GPU Boost. This gets even worse during our stress test, where the core clock dips below the 1607MHz that is supposed to be the GeForce GTX 1080’s floor. "

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

Oh come on now, don't get all butt hurt about it.  He posted links in the video description to his sources.  

The following is from Tom's Hardware (are they professional enough for you?)

 

" The 1080 hits its temperature target by dropping the GPU's clock rate. During a gaming loop, it falls all the way down to its base frequency, leaving nothing left of GPU Boost. This gets even worse during our stress test, where the core clock dips below the 1607MHz that is supposed to be the GeForce GTX 1080’s floor. "

stress test  =/= gaming

 

of course if you run kombustor or something stupid like that on any GPU it will heat up a ton

 

but for regular gaming it runs at 50% fan speed and still boosts

boost = no thermal throttling

 

[CostcoSamples]

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

stress test  =/= gaming

 

of course if you run kombustor or something stupid like that on any GPU it will heat up a ton

 

but for regular gaming it runs at 50% fan speed and still boosts

boost = no thermal throttling

 

Thanks for proving my point.  Jayztwocents said he ran into thermal throttling in his testing as well so there you go.  See 6:45 on his video.

 

Tom's Hardware and Jayztwocents both stated thermal throttling was a problem in normal gaming in their reviews.

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

Thanks for proving my point.  Jayztwocents said he ran into thermal throttling in his testing as well so there you go.  See 6:45 on his video.

 

Tom's Hardware and Jayztwocents both stated thermal throttling was a problem in normal gaming in their reviews.

right, my bad

didnt remember correctly

[CostcoSamples]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

right, my bad

didnt remember correctly

No worries.  Just don't buy a founders edition!  Unless you need it for a custom water cooling rig.  I mean, I guess you can buy it for the feels if you really want.

 

[Phoenix721]

9 minutes ago, Enderman said:

right, my bad

didnt remember correctly

Don't forget that the reviewers you mentioned did not benchmark the card inside a case, did they?

[CostcoSamples]

32 minutes ago, Ronnie76 said:

I mean if you wanna drop your GPU and not want to worry about it, don't worry, you got the founder edition man. 

Are you referring to the very solid aluminum construction, or is there some kind of warranty I don't know about?

[Enderman]

24 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

No worries.  Just don't buy a founders edition!  Unless you need it for a custom water cooling rig.  I mean, I guess you can buy it for the feels if you really want.

 

yeah, well the titan X also throttled with the reference cooler

most people (excluding the impatient ones) will definitely buy aftermarket though

22 minutes ago, Phoenix721 said:

Don't forget that the reviewers you mentioned did not benchmark the card inside a case, did they?

I think some reviewers actually do test it inside a case to simulate a real scenario, but I'm not sure which ones

[Phoenix721]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

yeah, well the titan X also throttled with the reference cooler

most people (excluding the impatient ones) will definitely buy aftermarket though

I think some reviewers actually do test it inside a case to simulate a real scenario, but I'm not sure which ones

Yeah, I think that the point is that the reference edition is a waste of money unless you are watercooling.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, CostcoSamples said:

Are you referring to the very solid aluminum construction, or is there some kind of warranty I don't know about?

No, nvidia claims to use premium components so I was making a joke on the construction of the card