Overclocking a intel G3258

[BraveSaw]

hi guys iam going to build a new budget gaming pc so for that i have decided to buy a intel g3258 with asus H81 motherboard and  zotac GT 740 

[Castdeath97]

What is your budget?

[BraveSaw]

around 40 bucks

 

[FloRolf]

4 minutes ago, BraveSaw said:

around 40 bucks

 

That's a pretty tight Budget tbh lol.

 

I also wouldn't get the GT740. Better look around the used market and get something like a 760 or whatever.

 

EDIT: Oh yeah and afaik you can't OC that Pentium on an H81 board. You Need Z87 or Z97 for that.

[Spectrez]

a +1 from me about the g3258, a lovely cpu for the money, i have had success with a 4.4ghz overclock on non overclock motherboards.

 

little beast imo

[Subduck]

If you want to see how it performs and whether it is worth it here is a good channel/video. 

 

[Tedster]

6 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

That's a pretty tight Budget tbh lol.

 

I also wouldn't get the GT740. Better look around the used market and get something like a 760 or whatever.

 

EDIT: Oh yeah and afaik you can't OC that Pentium on an H81 board. You Need Z87 or Z97 for that.

You kinda can, but M$ pushed Intel microcode updates that stopped you from doing so, I believe.

[Godlygamer23]

2 minutes ago, Tedster said:

You kinda can, but M$ pushed Intel microcode updates that stopped you from doing so, I believe.

Windows doesn't touch the BIOS, or the CPU. Any kind of microcode updates are put through the BIOS, and I think that was for Skylake. Could be both though.

[Tedster]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

Windows doesn't touch the BIOS, or the CPU. Any kind of microcode updates are put through the BIOS, and I think that was for Skylake. Could be both though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/g3258-owners-windows-10-will-not-install-boot-when-overclocked.214699/

[BraveSaw]

2 minutes ago, Tedster said:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/g3258-owners-windows-10-will-not-install-boot-when-overclocked.214699/

no i wouldn't be using windows 10 i will use rather windows 7 ultimate or 8.1

 

[Tedster]

Just now, BraveSaw said:

no i wouldn't be using windows 10 i will use rather windows 7 ultimate or 8.1

 

From my understanding, if you do so much as touch Windows 10, it'll add the microcode update and you won't be able to boot into Windows overclocked?

And I'd suggest 7 over 8.*

[manikyath]

3 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Windows doesn't touch the BIOS, or the CPU. Any kind of microcode updates are put through the BIOS, and I think that was for Skylake. Could be both though.

i believe intel has the possibility of pushing microcode updates trough windows update, just like driver updates can be pushed.

 

on topic: *please* stretch that budget to a 750Ti, it'll be SO much better. the GT series cards require a special kind of insanity to run games properly (which, they can, you just need to be *very* specific with settings)

[Godlygamer23]

4 minutes ago, Tedster said:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/g3258-owners-windows-10-will-not-install-boot-when-overclocked.214699/

This is a bit odd as we are getting microcode updates from different sources. Motherboard manufacturers also distribute them. I guess this is how Intel wants them distributed. 

[Tedster]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i believe intel has the possibility of pushing microcode updates trough windows update, just like driver updates can be pushed.

 

on topic: *please* stretch that budget to a 750Ti, it'll be SO much better. the GT series cards require a special kind of insanity to run games properly (which, they can, you just need to be *very* specific with settings)

Please please please.

[Nena Trinity]

I vote for 880K over Pentium but if you want it then a 212 Evo should be fine for OCing!

[aisle9]

33 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

I vote for 880K over Pentium but if you want it then a 212 Evo should be fine for OCing!

You can get a significant OC (4.0-4.2GHz) with the stock cooler on a G3258 lol

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

You can get a significant OC (4.0-4.2GHz) with the stock cooler on a G3258 lol

But you want to reach the moon!

[Noyu]

actually you can successfully OC a G3258 on Win10 now.

 

That weird microcode problem was removed long ago (about 4-6 months?)

 

HOWEVER, do know that there's no stopping Windows to release that microcode again.

[aisle9]

15 hours ago, Nena360 said:

But you want to reach the moon!

No joke, I know a guy who runs a Corsair H110i on a G3258. I keep telling him to give me the H110i and I'll give him an H7, but no luck as of yet.

[Apache Protocol]

18 hours ago, BraveSaw said:

hi guys iam going to build a new budget gaming pc so for that i have decided to buy a intel g3258 with asus H81 motherboard and  zotac GT 740 

 

change the 740 to a 750/750ti, and overclocking search your cpu+mobo in youtube surely someone posted a guide.

 

we might help you if you could tell us your budget.

 

[Apache Protocol]

18 hours ago, Tedster said:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/g3258-owners-windows-10-will-not-install-boot-when-overclocked.214699/

there are some mobo that dont support g3258 only specific h81 and b85 and to be honest i hope you do some more intensive research cause that article was 2015 and frankly there are no valid confirmation that this was 100% implemented so please help out a little and verify your source and confirm it.

 

MSI H81M-P33 ~ G3258 OC 4.6GHz on 1.250V "Friend 1" = Winning Silicon Lottery

ASUS B85M-GAMER ~ G3258 OC 4.2GHz on 1.225V "My Build" = Losing Silicon Lottery

 

as you can see the error that it will blue screen are just code that say you have a unstable overclock not a code that overclocking will fail.

 

[Noyu]

30 minutes ago, apacheprotocol said:

ASUS B85M-GAMER ~ G3258 OC 4.2GHz on 1.225V "My Build" = Losing Silicon Lottery

I'm on 4.2GHz on 1.3V. I think I have the worst chip EVER.

Or maybe the H97M-E not having VRM heatsinks affects the overclock as well.

 

Wanna trade MoBos? Kidding not kidding.

[Apache Protocol]

1 hour ago, Noyu said:

I'm on 4.2GHz on 1.3V. I think I have the worst chip EVER.

Or maybe the H97M-E not having VRM heatsinks affects the overclock as well.

 

Wanna trade MoBos? Kidding not kidding.

still 4.2GHz and 4.7GHz has noting to more offer in Competitive Games, i find it much more better in having a Low Voltage and Temps rather getting 10-20FPS more and still have 60hz moniter so meh.

 

Lol keep your mobo and just upgrade our CPU to a xeon e3 1231 v3 and go samsung 950 pro 250gb m.2 lol i have seen the price of a 950 Pro m.2 vs the 850 EVO you could but 3 EVO of the price of one m.2

[Noyu]

28 minutes ago, apacheprotocol said:

still 4.2GHz and 4.7GHz has noting to more offer in Competitive Games, i find it much more better in having a Low Voltage and Temps rather getting 10-20FPS more and still have 60hz moniter so meh.

 

Lol keep your mobo and just upgrade our CPU to a xeon e3 1231 v3 and go samsung 950 pro 250gb m.2 lol i have seen the price of a 950 Pro m.2 vs the 850 EVO you could but 3 EVO of the price of one m.2

Actually my "problem" with the 4.2 GHz is the required voltage to do so. Even the auto-voltage suggests a 1.225V for the 42x ratio but I can't even login to Windows before it crashes.

 

Re: upgrade

Problem is, Xeons are commercially available in my country. We have to order from outside.

But yea, I'm planning on upgrading to a 4790 when the price crashes.

[Apache Protocol]

2 hours ago, Noyu said:

Actually my "problem" with the 4.2 GHz is the required voltage to do so. Even the auto-voltage suggests a 1.225V for the 42x ratio but I can't even login to Windows before it crashes.

 

Re: upgrade

Problem is, Xeons are commercially available in my country. We have to order from outside.

But yea, I'm planning on upgrading to a 4790 when the price crashes.

nope we can have the xeon e3 1231-v3 here in the philippines the only problem is its worth ₱14,000 ~ 15,000 around $300 ~ 320, i have been to Taiwan @Noyu and man if i could tell you how long i roam around at there electronic district you will be drooling how cheap other items are. i have found a xeon there for around ₱10,318 around $220 that is around $100 saving. one problem when i was there i only bring a small walk around cash then i i was decided to purchase a xeon they don't accept credit cards so sad.

 

currently i really don't know the cpu upgrade i am currently looking for a supplier of a AOC monitor here in the philippines.

 

i might visit Taiwan again cause traveling there is kinda cheap and fun.