Vulkan or DX12?

[bessietheBEAST]

Which one is the best and future proof?

[Darel321]

mantle

[GoZone]

Just now, Darel321 said:

mantle

Is that one just for iOS/Mac?

[Aytex]

Wait what?

 

[GoZone]

3 minutes ago, bessietheBEAST said:

Which one is the best and future proof?

Vulkan is pretty nice in Android and DX12 is better on PC, so depends on platform.

[Darel321]

1 minute ago, GoZone said:

Is that one just for iOS/Mac?

what?? hahahaha... no? mantle is from amd... basically dx12/vulkan are mantle, read more man

[GoZone]

2 minutes ago, Darel321 said:

what?? hahahaha... no? mantle is from amd... basically dx12/vulkan are mantle, read more man

 

6 minutes ago, GoZone said:

Is that one just for iOS/Mac?

Wasn't keeping up on it because at the time in iOS 8, Apple was talking all about the API so much, I thought it was their API. 

[Coaxialgamer]

I would say Vulkan . OpenGL is now behind because of bloat. If Vulkan can avoid that and drivers become on par ( or better ) than dx12 , then we will have an api that works on all current windows platforms ( not just win 10  like dx 12 ), osx , linux , android and ios. This would allow easy porting of games access platforms . 

After all , dx12 is focused on making money for microsoft , while vulkan is more focused on actually being good as an api

[DioOmicida]

It's Vulcan to be use across multiple platforms?
I think that gives it more reach and could lead to a faster evolving, better product.
But, I don't really know what to answer here. 

[BrightCandle]

Its a little hard to say really. Most of the big games developers are moving over to DX12, not talking about vulkan at all. But the smaller studios that make mobile games are going to be using Vulkan since DX12 isn't going to be on your phone. That is how its initially shaking out, there will be a number of indies that support Vulkan for easier cross platform support as well, just as there was with openGL. Beyond that I don't care to predict how this actually plays out, Microsoft could take actions to cement its dominance or destroy its platform and we just don't know what companies are doing with these APIs and what they are intending to support yet.

[Gachr]

DX12:

• Windows 10
• XBONE
• Windows Phone (?)

Vulkan:

• Windows 10
• Windows 8(.1)
• Windows 7
• Windows Vista
• Windows XP
• Linux
• Android
• Playstation 4 (?)

The choice is yøurs.

[AlTech]

21 hours ago, GoZone said:

 

Wasn't keeping up on it because at the time in iOS 8, Apple was talking all about the API so much, I thought it was their API. 

Apple's API is called "Metal". This is exclusive to IOS and Mac.

 

AMD has an API called "Mantle". This works on PC, Mac and Linux running AMD GCN hardware.

 

Microsoft has DX11 & more recently 12. This works on Windows 7,8 & 8.1 for DX11 and Windows 10 for DX12.

 

The Kronos group have multiple APIs. This includes OpenGL, OpenGL ES and the new Vulkan. The ES versions run on all mobile OSes and normal versions of OpenGL run on PC, Mac and Linux. But Vulkan is designed for mobile and Computers. It is based on DX12 idea. It is their knew replacement for OpenGL.

 

21 hours ago, bessietheBEAST said:

Which one is the best and future proof?

If you are ok with only targeting Windows then Direct X 12.

 

If you want multiple platforms then Vulkan. But Direct X is typically better unless you need Multiplatform support. Because it is only on Windows Phones, Xbox One, PC and HoloLens.

[Gachr]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

If you are ok with only targeting Windows then Direct X 12.

Not only targeting Windows, but targeting only Windows 10.

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, Gachr said:

Not only targeting Windows, but targeting only Windows 10.

Yeah but I'm sure most people would be ok with it. Devs certainly would be.

[Nineshadow]

If you are doing something professional, then it will be a harder choice.

 

If it's just something you want to experiment with I'd suggest Vulkan.

[clegger]

10 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

AMD has an API called "Mantle". This works on PC, Mac and Linux running AMD GCN hardware.

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The Kronos group have multiple APIs. This includes OpenGL, OpenGL ES and the new Vulkan. The ES versions run on all mobile OSes and normal versions of OpenGL run on PC, Mac and Linux. But Vulkan is designed for mobile and Computers. It is based on DX12 idea. It is their knew replacement for OpenGL.

I was under the impression that Mantle was basically dead and it now Vulkan contains everything started in Mantle:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2894036/mantle-is-a-vulkan-amds-dead-graphics-api-rises-from-the-ashes-as-opengls-successor.html

 

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, clegger said:

I was under the impression that Mantle was basically dead and it now Vulkan contains everything started in Mantle:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2894036/mantle-is-a-vulkan-amds-dead-graphics-api-rises-from-the-ashes-as-opengls-successor.html

 

You can still use it.

[themoose5]

I honestly don't know the answer to this question but I am rooting for Vulcan. I think it's too early right now to declare which one is better. Obviously DX12 is going to have a lot of support and push from Microsoft with it being their API and all which is going to make life more difficult for Vulcan. Vulcan's best shot is a combination of a lot of developer support and better performance compared to DX12. 

 

Being a fan of more open platforms I would love to see Vulcan take over the market and really open up gaming, especially on Linux platforms. I'm not a huge fan of Microsoft products but being a PC gamer I'm tied to Windows because of DX12, if Vulcan can change that I'm all in.