Building a budget gaming pc (My first pc)

[Shimith2008]

Hi guys , 

 

I am planning on building my first pc. I don't have a big budget(collage student). I also don't know a lot about building pc, currently using a mac book air 13''. 

So this is what i have now , I would like to hear suggestions and tips. Thx. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dQ4MGX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dQ4MGX/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD A8-7670K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus A68HM-Plus Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($42.45 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: BenQ GW2470H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($138.95 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $439.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-20 22:20 EDT-0400

 

In about 6 months i am willing to upgrade a 1 tb HDD and a ASUS GeForce STRIX GTX 750Ti 2GB PhysX graphic card. What kind of performance can I expect now and what kind of performance can i expect when i make the upgrade ? Is there a better graphic card for the price?

[aeroencychris]

A budget like that is pretty tough. I doubt you'll get much of anything on modern titles with an APU like that. I would get a GTX 950 at the very least to see some decent performance. Match that with perhaps a budget i3? Honestly I don't see it worth the investment unless you put at least $500 into a PC (not including monitor/OS).

[nskceaj]

3 minutes ago, Shimith2008 said:

Hi guys , 

 

I am planning on building my first pc. I don't have a big budget(collage student). I also don't know a lot about building pc, currently using a mac book air 13''. 

So this is what i have now , I would like to hear suggestions and tips. Thx. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dQ4MGX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dQ4MGX/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD A8-7670K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus A68HM-Plus Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($42.45 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Micro Center) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: BenQ GW2470H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($138.95 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $439.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-20 22:20 EDT-0400

 

In about 6 months i am willing to upgrade a 1 tb HDD and a ASUS GeForce STRIX GTX 750Ti 2GB PhysX graphic card. What kind of performance can I expect now and what kind of performance can i expect when i make the upgrade ? Is there a better graphic card for the price?

Pascal/Polaris will be out by then. I´d imagine Prices will drop for every other Cards. Whats your Budget right now/On what Settings do you want to play which Game/s ? Maybe you get a litte Help from a Guy who knows Stuff.

[Aereldor]

It would be helpful if you can give us your budget and location (which at this point I'm forced to assume is $450 and that you live in the US)

As for criticism- T

• That power supply is of questionable quality. Refer to this whitelist for future recommendations-

• Kingston V300 SSDs are not to be trusted. The review samples had better controllers than the retail products, and thus, the versions on shelves exhibit terrible performance compared to what reviews advertise.
• APUs aren't particularly powerful, and at your budget, you'd be better off with a discrete GPU and a more powerful CPU.
• The BenQ GW2470 is a decent monitor, but isn't worth any more than $100, as it has awful viewing angles and inaccurate colour reproduction.

[comicsansms]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QkpBf7

[Shimith2008]

1 minute ago, nskceaj said:

Pascal/Polaris will be out by then. I´d imagine Prices will drop for every other Cards. Whats your Budget right now/On what Settings do you want to play which Game/s ? Maybe you get a litte Help from a Guy who knows Stuff.

I live in Sweden. I have a budget of 4000-5000 knorner with monitor. I can upgrade few parts in 5-6 moths. hmmm like gta 5 in normal ? right now i only play mmo but i do want to play games  witcher 3 in mediam, gta 5 in mediam, cod, bf 4 in low. 

[Aereldor]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($67.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A70U3P Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($26.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.00 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $500.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-20 22:40 EDT-0400

 

Features-

• A slightly more powerful CPU
• A much, much, much better GPU.
• A TB HDD (wait for the SSD upgrade- prices are dropping real fast).
• A much more reliable power supply from SeaSonic.
• A 1080p IPS monitor with superior colour reproduction with a 5ms response time that makes it suitable for games.

[themctipers]

Can you buy used?

[Shimith2008]

4 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QkpBf7

What kind of performance can i accept from it ? 

[Aereldor]

Just now, Shimith2008 said:

What kind of performance can i accept from it ? 

30-40 FPS at medium settings at 1080p on the latest AAA titles, with stutter due to a CPU bottleneck in the most intense situations, unless you overclock that Pentium. However, I would NOT recommend overclocking anything with a Corsair CX-430 power supply.

 

See my build if you want a build that is solid without the need to overclock, and features a much more powerful GPU which will give you a solid 60FPS at medium-high settings in the same situations, if not better.

[Shimith2008]

8 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QkpBf7

 

 

But What kind of performance can i accept from it ? 

[comicsansms]

1 minute ago, Shimith2008 said:

What kind of performance can i accept from it ? 

The Pentium G3258 overclocks nicely (though I don't think motherboard can OC). 

Another great option is option is the AMD Athlon 860k (a 10 7870 without the iGPU) , it doesn’t have an integrated gpu so you will have to buy a GPU when you buy everything else 

[Shimith2008]

7 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

30-40 FPS at medium settings at 1080p on the latest AAA titles, with stutter due to a CPU bottleneck in the most intense situations, unless you overclock that Pentium. However, I would NOT recommend overclocking anything with a Corsair CX-430 power supply.

 

See my build if you want a build that is solid without the need to overclock, and features a much more powerful GPU which will give you a solid 60FPS at medium-high settings in the same situations, if not better.

Does the new games not need 4 cores? 

[Clanscorpia]

17 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

It would be helpful if you can give us your budget and location (which at this point I'm forced to assume is $450 and that you live in the US)

As for criticism- T

• That power supply is of questionable quality. Refer to this whitelist for future recommendations-

• Kingston V300 SSDs are not to be trusted. The review samples had better controllers than the retail products, and thus, the versions on shelves exhibit terrible performance compared to what reviews advertise.
• APUs aren't particularly powerful, and at your budget, you'd be better off with a discrete GPU and a more powerful CPU.
• The BenQ GW2470 is a decent monitor, but isn't worth any more than $100, as it has awful viewing angles and inaccurate colour reproduction.

He doesnt need 1/4 of his budget on a decent PSU. That PSU is fine for an non-Z i5 and a 750ti

[Aereldor]

2 minutes ago, Shimith2008 said:

Does the new games not need 4 cores? 

Not strictly. Some won't launch with a dual-core CPU (Far Cry 4), but you can mod them to launch. However, in certain areas of games, such as a large battle in Shadow of Mordor or the city of Novigrad in The Witcher 3, you'll benefit from a slightly more powerful CPU to run logic for the thousands of NPC AIs and objects in the area.

[Shimith2008]

2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

He doesnt need 1/4 of his budget on a decent PSU. That PSU is fine for an non-Z i5 and a 750ti

i live in sweden band my budject 5000 kr with monitor. 

[Aereldor]

2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

He doesnt need 1/4 of his budget on a decent PSU. That PSU is fine for an non-Z i5 and a 750ti

I disagree. First off, that isn't anywhere near 1/4th of his budget. The power supply is just over $50. The total cost of my build is $500. It incorporates the $50 power supply.

$50 out of $500 is not 1/4th. It's 10%, or 1/10th.

 

Furthermore, here's why he shouldn't buy the Corsair CX 430-

http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

In short, the power supplies use cheap components which have lower thermal tolerance- namely their capacitors, which are only rated for a maximum of 85 celsius, unlike the 105C capacitors which are standard fare for even the lowest-end Seasonic units. Note that these are on the 12v rail, and the rest of them are even worse.

And skipping through the benchmarks and jargon (which place this with even cheaper power supplies you usually find at the bottom-tier on PCPartPicker), here's what OklahomaWolf said in his CX750 review at JohnyGuru-

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Guys, this thing is only rated to full power at thirty degrees. I've spoken about this kind of thing before, but not for a while, so here's my position on this: I have no use for anything that can't do full power at forty degrees or better, and I review these units accordingly. Computer cases routinely see temperatures higher than thirty at the power supply intake, and this becomes more and more of an issue the further south you live, depending on whether or not you're buying this budget unit so you can afford to run the AC.

It also becomes more of an issue depending on where your unit is located. I have family with computers next to heating vents, because that's the only place available to put them. Guess what that does to a Canadian computer? Most of their cases don't have the newer layout where the power supply pulls room temperature air in from underneath the case, so those power supplies are taking in air heated by the vent and the computer hardware. Thirty degrees? Ha!

No, folks, thirty degrees just doesn't work for me. A unit this heavily de-rated is likely only good for 650W at a more reasonable forty to fifty degrees. It may be a perfectly decent little unit, but my hot box will not stay cool enough to make this unit happy. This is by design - my methodology is to get these things to at least forty whenever possible, because that's the lowest temperature I personally expect to get full power out of a unit. Forty is more than reasonable, even for a good budget unit.

Really, here's what it comes down to... this unit has to pass hot box testing, or there will be scoring repercussions on page six. I haven't had to use those particular scoring rules in a looooong time. Corsair, I hope you had CWT give you overtemp protection, because I think this unit is going to need it.

Even though the conclusion of the report at Overclock.net says that it should work for basic system builds but isn't ideal for an overclocking setup or a gaming rig (which usually have individual, power-hungry components like high-performance GPUs). However, I think that if something is only rated for full power at 30 degrees Celsius, you should stay away from the damn thing. 

[Aereldor]

4 minutes ago, Shimith2008 said:

i live in sweden band my budject 5000 kr with monitor. 

That should have been the first thing you told us. Let me see what I can do with that.

What country are you comfortable importing from? I can't find any Swedish outlets on PCPartPicker.

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

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I mean 1/4 as in any good PSU costs more than $50 more like 100-150 average (If my American prices are correct). He wont be running a Titan and a 5960X. His components will obviously be low end and I doubt a 750ti/950 will go over 60 celcius

[Shimith2008]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

That should have been the first thing you told us. Let me see what I can do with that.

What country are you comfortable importing from? I can't find any Swedish outlets on PCPartPicker.

norway, denmark , uk . www.komplett.se that is the one i used. 

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

I mean 1/4 as in any good PSU costs more than $50 more like 100-150 average (If my American prices are correct). He wont be running a Titan and a 5960X. His components will obviously be low end and I doubt a 750ti/950 will go over 60 celcius

30 degrees celsius. Not 60. That's the operating temperature for the Corsair CX power supplies. No offense, but did you even read through my post? 

 

Furthermore, did you look at my build? It has midrange components and a very good budget power supply with excellent craftsmanship, high-quality capacitors on every rail, and much better temperature tolerance and electrical performance.

[SteveGrabowski0]

On that kind of budget I think you'd be much better off with a PS4. Witcher 3 will eat through any apu both on the cpu and the gpu side. With a Playstation 4 you'd be getting HD 7850 level graphical performance, which is a lot higher than what you're getting in your build. For AAA gaming like GTA V, Witcher 3, I find it really hard to recommend pc at anything less than say a $550 budget (and that's assuming you're pirating Windows and not counting the monitor). If you're into CS:GO or LOL that's a completely different story, but for AAA games I think it only makes sense to either go big, or go PS4.

[Aereldor]

Just now, SteveGrabowski0 said:

On that kind of budget I think you'd be much better off with a PS4. Witcher 3 will eat through any apu both on the cpu and the gpu side. With a Playstation 4 you'd be getting HD 7850 level graphical performance, which is a lot higher than what you're getting in your build. For AAA gaming like GTA V, Witcher 3, I find it really hard to recommend pc at anything less than say a $600 budget (and that's assuming you're pirating Windows and not counting the monitor). If you're into CS:GO or LOL that's a completely different story, but for AAA games I think it only makes sense to either go big, or go PS4.

Actually, you won't be getting performance as high as a 7850- not to mention, he can't use mods that increase the experience tenfold with no cost to performance (See the Super Turbo Lighting Mod my Essenthy Onigami for The Witcher 3), and the PS4 can only run that game at 792p at low-medium settings and no post-processing at 24-30FPS. That doesn't sound like what we got out of a 7850.

Furthermore, his budget is $614.88 USD- the equivalent of the 5000 Swedish KR he cited. He's comfortable importing from the UK, so I should be able to hook him up with a more than decent build. I'll post the part list here in a moment.

[Shimith2008]

5 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

On that kind of budget I think you'd be much better off with a PS4. Witcher 3 will eat through any apu both on the cpu and the gpu side. With a Playstation 4 you'd be getting HD 7850 level graphical performance, which is a lot higher than what you're getting in your build. For AAA gaming like GTA V, Witcher 3, I find it really hard to recommend pc at anything less than say a $600 budget (and that's assuming you're pirating Windows and not counting the monitor). If you're into CS:GO or LOL that's a completely different story, but for AAA games I think it only makes sense to either go big, or go PS4.

Thx man. Who ever you are  

[Aereldor]

@Shimith2008- think you can spend about 300-500 Krona more and get this? It'll destroy almost anything at 1080p.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£50.82 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A70U3P Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£34.49 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£23.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.80 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (£159.98 @ Novatech) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.99 @ Novatech) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£49.06 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£76.92 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £458.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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