Moving from AMD FX-8150 to Intel chip

[MaverickNoob]

Hey guys, 

            Currently, pretty happy with my 8150, but I have no upgrade path with AMD, and have heard Intel chips outperform, the FX series at least on single core operations. Use case for current PC is high-end gaming, and productivity, with some video editing.

 

After spending sometime on cpuboss.com, I'm more confused than before I started looking. It looks like Core I7 4790, was Intel's best chip ever; It outperform chips from 6th gen, when it is a 4th gen chip. Also, what is with Intel chips mostly only having 16 pci-e lanes...?

 

So, what do you think is the smart chip to go to on the Intel side?

 

Current system specs,

Motherboard: ASUS; SABERTOOTH 990FX/GEN3 R2.0

CPU: AMD Fx-8150 overclocked to 4.2 Ghz (the one AMD wants everyone to forget)

RAM: Kingston HyperX Beast 32GB (4x8 GB) DDR3 @ 2133MHz

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti AMP! Extreme [was mistake (custom pcb so no watercooling)]

RAID Card: Adaptec maxCache 5805ZQ

HDD: 5 1TB WD drives

SSD: 120 GB Kinston SSDNow V300 (main OS boot)

[Paralectic]

CPUBOSS is trash, forget everything you've read there.

A normal use i7 is a 4790K or a 6700K, I'd recommend the 6700K. It's everything you'll need.

[Ykno]

I7 4790k or i5 4690k

 

i7 6700K or i5 6600k

 

simple

 

depending if you need a i7 or i5

 

if just gaming/photoshop/multitasking and small time video editimg i5

if ur video edition on large scale i7

[don_svetlio]

CPUBoss is practcially the WORST possible source. NEVER use any of the ****Boss sites.... EVER.

As for upgrading, 6700(K) is what I'd recommend or the 5820K

[HKZeroFive]

CPUBoss should never used as a point of information. Just a whole bunch of misleading bullcrap.

 

You can either go for the i7 6700K or the i7 4790K for the hyperthreading. Personally, I'd go i7 4790K paired with a Z97 motherboard so you can reuse the DDR3 RAM.

[JoePro87]

3 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

Hey guys, 

            Currently, pretty happy with my 8150, but I have no upgrade path with AMD

That's actually not true at all. You have a wide range of chips you could upgrade to. However, none of them are really worth spit. My best advice is to actually wait for Zen, and stick with AMD. If you haven't yet, go look up the leaked info about Zen, and you'll understand why. If you're truly adamant about switching, I'd go with a Skylake, myself.

[MaverickNoob]

1 minute ago, JoePro87 said:

That's actually not true at all. You have a wide range of chips you could upgrade to. However, none of them are really worth spit. My best advice is to actually wait for Zen, and stick with AMD. If you haven't yet, go look up the leaked info about Zen, and you'll understand why. If you're truly adamant about switching, I'd go with a Skylake, myself.

Sure, there are chips... 8350, 9590... but none that offer performance increases that would justify the cost.

[MaverickNoob]

5 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

CPUBoss should never used as a point of information. Just a whole bunch of misleading bullcrap.

 

You can either go for the i7 6700K or the i7 4790K for the hyperthreading. Personally, I'd go i7 4790K paired with a Z97 motherboard so you can reuse the DDR3 RAM.

This is interesting, any comment on the fact that both of these chips only have 16 PCI Express Lanes (max) [http://ark.intel.com/compare/80807,88195 , 5:07pst 3/29/2016]?

[HKZeroFive]

1 minute ago, MaverickNoob said:

This is interesting, any comment on the fact that both of these chips only have 16 PCI Express Lanes (max) [http://ark.intel.com/compare/80807,88195 , 5:07pst 3/29/2016]?

Shouldn't be a problem if you're not going beyond two-way Crossfire/SLI.

[Totalschaden1997]

5 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

This is interesting, any comment on the fact that both of these chips only have 16 PCI Express Lanes (max) [http://ark.intel.com/compare/80807,88195 , 5:07pst 3/29/2016]?

 

3 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Shouldn't be a problem if you're not going beyond two-way Crossfire/SLI.

Plus there are lots of boards with PLX chips if you really need more lanes...

[MaverickNoob]

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

Shouldn't be a problem if you're not going beyond two-way Crossfire/SLI.

Thanks, however does not my pci-e 4x raid card eat 4 of those lanes... so then are there only 12 left? 

[Majestic]

18 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

Currently, pretty happy with my 8150

With that GPU? You have no idea how much you're missing....

[Totalschaden1997]

8 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

Thanks, however does not my pci-e 4x raid card eat 4 of those lanes... so then are there only 12 left? 

Yes, but PCIe Lanes aren´t just hosted by the CPU (16), trey´re also hosted by the chipset (z.B. Z170 --> up to 20 additional PCIe 3.0 Lanes , Z97 --> up to additional 8 PCIe 2.0 Lanes) and you can still Split those Lanes via PLX since all of them are PCIe 3.0.

[mikat]

18 minutes ago, JoePro87 said:

That's actually not true at all. You have a wide range of chips you could upgrade to. However, none of them are really worth spit. My best advice is to actually wait for Zen, and stick with AMD. If you haven't yet, go look up the leaked info about Zen, and you'll understand why. If you're truly adamant about switching, I'd go with a Skylake, myself.

yeah, you can upgrade to the same cpu but overclocked higher  /s

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, mikat said:

yeah, you can upgrade to the same cpu but overclocked higher  /s

8150 - Bulldozer
8350 - Vishera

[mikat]

6 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

Thanks, however does not my pci-e 4x raid card eat 4 of those lanes... so then are there only 12 left? 

then you can't do SLI but idk if the raid card can go through the PCH, because in that case you can have SLI

or you can get a motherboard with a PLX bridge (fancy stuff that does some stuff with your pci-e lanes)

[MaverickNoob]

7 minutes ago, Majestic said:

With that GPU? You have no idea how much you're missing....

See my reply on page 203

 

[DildorTheDecent]

2 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

Thanks, however does not my pci-e 4x raid card eat 4 of those lanes... so then are there only 12 left? 

I think the PCI-E raid card uses the PCI-E lanes from the PCH. The PCH has 20 lanes (Skylake only). While the CPU has 16. 

 

You should still be able to have two GPUs + a raid card for example with the Skylake platform. 

 

 

[Majestic]

8 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

8150 - Bulldozer
8350 - Vishera

8150 was "Zambezi". Both are bulldozer.

7 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

See my reply on page 203

 

Yeah, but that benchmark is hardly indicative of the high-drawcall games and engines we see today. It barely stresses a CPU. Even Core2Quads pass that test with flying colors.

 

 

 

[HKZeroFive]

11 minutes ago, MaverickNoob said:

Thanks, however does not my pci-e 4x raid card eat 4 of those lanes... so then are there only 12 left? 

Not exactly. Like some said, there are also PCIe lanes that are hosted by the chipset. So even with a SLI setup and a PCI-e RAID card, you should be fine for either Haswell or Skylake.

 

[DioOmicida]

Snag that i7 6700k. You're going to have to replace the MB anyways so you might as well drop a little more to upgrade to DDR4 RAM which will be in the mainstream for a while.

[MaverickNoob]

48 minutes ago, Majestic said:

With that GPU? You have no idea how much you're missing....

 

38 minutes ago, Majestic said:

8150 was "Zambezi". Both are bulldozer.

Yeah, but that benchmark is hardly indicative of the high-drawcall games and engines we see today. It barely stresses a CPU. Even Core2Quads pass that test with flying colors.

 

 

 

It appears you are correct...  http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8037629/fs/7864976# (edit) Just noticed kyozero has his 980ti running at higher clock speed... but not likely that accounts for all the difference.

Edited March 29, 2016 by MaverickNoob

[Paralectic]

46 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

8150 - Bulldozer
8350 - Vishera

Those are sidegrades.