Coollaboratories liquid pro

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

Can you actually use this stuff on top of an IHS. Also what happens if you start to cut the top of pcb on a cpu? Does it just not work anymore?

[Enderman]

uh yeah, its meant to go on your CPU...

where are are you gonna put it, in a sandwich?

 

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

uh yeah, its meant to go on your CPU...

where are are you gonna put it, in a sandwich?

 

well I always thought it was meant to go directly on the cpu and under the ihs

[Enderman]

Just now, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

well I always thought it was meant to go directly on the cpu and under the ihs

no

you can use it both with or without IHS

either way you get a huge temp improvement

 

still very dangerous to apply either way

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

Just now, Enderman said:

no

you can use it both with or without IHS

either way you get a huge temp improvement

 

still very dangerous to apply either way

how so?

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

how so?

uh, its liquid metal...

you apply slightly too much and a single drop will kill your CPU+motherboard

[aisle9]

5 minutes ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

how so?

You have to damage your CPU (and kill your warranty) to apply it, and if you drip any off the side while brushing it in, bye bye motherboard.

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

uh, its liquid metal...

you apply slightly too much and a single drop will kill your CPU+motherboard

what about gpu

[Enderman]

Just now, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

what about gpu

if you did not know coolaboratory liquid metal was conductive then I highly suggest you dont even consider using it, because your experience level isnt very high and you will likely ruin your PC

[aisle9]

2 minutes ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

what about gpu

The GPU surface is even smaller, so even more no.

 

Stick with MX-4. It's effective, it's cheap, and it won't instantly destroy all the things if a little drips out where it's not supposed to.

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

if you did not know coolaboratory liquid metal was conductive then I highly suggest you dont even consider using it, because your experience level isnt very high and you will likely ruin your PC

well i gotta start somewhere and I have plenty of gt 610s and 520s

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

well i gotta start somewhere and I have plenty of gt 610s and 520s

then start with high quality thermal paste like MX-4 or IC-D or NT-H1

[Marcus Torre DeProspero]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

then start with high quality thermal paste like MX-4 or IC-D or NT-H1

already have mx-4

[aisle9]

3 minutes ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

well i gotta start somewhere and I have plenty of gt 610s and 520s

Liquid Pro will give you about a 3-4C edge over your typical tube of thermal paste, at best. IMO, unless you're looking for an extreme overclock with a delidded processor and phase-change cooling (or better), it's not worth ruining your warranty, damaging your CPU and heatsink and, if you're really lucky, getting a single microscopic drop into the PCB that destroys your chip and motherboard.

 

Seriously though, IMO, in 99.5% of cases, Coolaboratory is a case of going way, way too far and exposing yourself to unnecessary risk.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

already have mx-4

ok

so youre looking to get experience with liquid metal pastes then?

 

well  then I would recommend you do it on some old GPU

apply it once, put the cooler on, then take the cooler off and see what it looked like, if you applied too much and it was seeping over the edges, or too little

then apply again and repeat until it looks very even with 0 spill when you take the cooler off

 

at that point if you can repeatedly apply it evenly with no spill then you can put the GPU in a system and test it out

 

[Benji_w]

37 minutes ago, Marcus Torre DeProspero said:

Can you actually use this stuff on top of an IHS. Also what happens if you start to cut the top of pcb on a cpu? Does it just not work anymore?

If you're delidding a CPU use the vice method, safer than a razor as it just pushed the IHS off, put clear nail varnish over the VRM or what ever they're called so you don't short them with CLU/CLP. You can use LM on top of the IHS but tbh, pretty pointless the problem is intel used shit TIM under the IHS and the IHS makes poor contact with the die.

 

You can use LM on GPU but tbh I haven't done it so can't personally recommend doing it.

 

 

Spoiler

 

[airdeano]

if experimenting, be sure the metals are compatible with the CL TIMs.

some coolers are aluminum and ally is not compatible with CL TIMs.

 

http://www.coollaboratory.com/pdf/manual_liquid_pro_englisch.pdf

Quote

"Coollaboratory Liquid Pro" was designed for use with high quality coolers made of copper or silver.
Aluminum coolers are unsuitable (of course this applies only to the cooler's contact surface onto which
"Coollaboratory Liquid Pro". is spread).
Note: Do not use cheap aluminum coolers. Their quality is not very high, and aluminum is not resistant
against our Liquid Metal. Aluminum could form an alloy with "Coollaboratory Liquid Pro" which would react
with the surrounding air's humidity. A black stain forms after a while, showing insulating qualities. '
Therefore: No contact of "Coollaboratory Liquid Pro" with aluminum. NO ALUMINUM COOLERS!

 

[roblesaturcamilo]

has anybody ever tried using it with a delidded cpu? so we can see if it is worth it or not...

[Benji_w]

39 minutes ago, roblesaturcamilo said:

has anybody ever tried using it with a delidded cpu? so we can see if it is worth it or not...

Yes.

 

 

Spoiler

 

[airdeano]

i have used CLU on a 4790k delidded (vise) with nail polish over the regs and it did drop the overall temperatures 8° at the same voltages (p95), but the indy cores are in a tighter control.

 

4.5GHz 1.201v loaded

pre-delid: 82°

core 0: 79°

core 1: 80°

core 2: 85°

core 3: 84°

 

post-delid: 74°

core 0: 74°

core 1: 76°

core 2: 75°

core 3: 74°

[Benji_w]

2 minutes ago, airdeano said:

i have used CLU on a 4790k delidded (vise) with nail polish over the regs and it did drop the overall temperatures 8° at the same voltages (p95), but the indy cores are in a tighter control.

 

4.5GHz 1.201v loaded

pre-delid: 82°

core 0: 79°

core 1: 80°

core 2: 85°

core 3: 84°

 

post-delid: 74°

core 0: 74°

core 1: 76°

core 2: 75°

core 3: 74°

Nice, I've been using IBT AVX to test mine to get it nice and burnt in.  

[Lays]

1 hour ago, aisle9 said:

Liquid Pro will give you about a 3-4C edge over your typical tube of thermal paste, at best. IMO, unless you're looking for an extreme overclock with a delidded processor and phase-change cooling (or better), it's not worth ruining your warranty, damaging your CPU and heatsink and, if you're really lucky, getting a single microscopic drop into the PCB that destroys your chip and motherboard.

 

Seriously though, IMO, in 99.5% of cases, Coolaboratory is a case of going way, way too far and exposing yourself to unnecessary risk.

 

CLU / CLP will freeze on phase change and crack, not a good idea

[airdeano]

what i found was that if i "cook" the CPU to 95-98° for 5min (make sure the CPU is horizontal to keep the TIM from dripping), the TIM flow takes effect.

was disappointed at first on install and then treated it like the indium TIM it made worlds of thermal difference.

[Benji_w]

1 hour ago, aisle9 said:

Liquid Pro will give you about a 3-4C edge over your typical tube of thermal paste, at best. IMO, unless you're looking for an extreme overclock with a delidded processor and phase-change cooling (or better), it's not worth ruining your warranty, damaging your CPU and heatsink and, if you're really lucky, getting a single microscopic drop into the PCB that destroys your chip and motherboard.

 

Seriously though, IMO, in 99.5% of cases, Coolaboratory is a case of going way, way too far and exposing yourself to unnecessary risk.

Have you ever delidded a CPU because 3-4c? Bullshit, Don't quote Linus' test results because he fucked that up.

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

 

CLU / CLP will freeze on phase change and crack, not a good idea

And this is why I'm not trying my luck with CLU, CLP or phase change anytime soon