Most power dense build i can imagine (Linus or Luke should build it, like if you agree)

[MarcWolfe]

Going to keep it as short and simple as possible.

 

AsRock X99E-ITX/AC motherboard

M.2 to PCIe 4x (or mini PCIe to PCIe) adapter (since gen 3 4x is enough)

X4 to X16 PCIe riser

2 water cooled AMD R9 Nanos

One radiator with integrated fan/pump (to go in area behind R9 Nanos since they're so short)

Specific CPU and storage options are essentially irrelevant.

A dual GPU extremely compact rig that could game with the best of them.

If possible R9 Nanos would be replaced with 2 Fury Xs, but i doubt they would leave enough room for the water cooling. Obviously the coolers on the Fury Xs would need replaced with a single pump slash radiator to cool them both.

[ThinkWithPortals]

1 minute ago, MarcWolfe said:

 

So is this just a proof of concept or are you actually building this?

[Enderman]

actually this is far more power dense than what you came up with

 

 

[FloRolf]

And now...?

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I think this is not necessarily the most power dense, but perhaps the smallest build you could think of that had top level gaming ability (2 high end crossfire/SLI cards, etc.)

 

yes?

[MarcWolfe]

8 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I think this is not necessarily the most power dense, but perhaps the smallest build you could think of that had top level gaming ability (2 high end crossfire/SLI cards, etc.)

 

yes?

If you think there is something anywhere near as small with more power (that an average enthusiast could make use of) I'd love to know.

 

27 minutes ago, Enderman said:

actually this is far more power dense than what you came up with

 

 

Well, looking at size per performance i think mine still wins. That thing is much more than four times the size of a Node 202.

 

31 minutes ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

So is this just a proof of concept or are you actually building this?

If i had the money to burn, I'd give it a try. Figured somebody else might like the idea, and we can all discuss the issues that may arise and alternatives that have the same goal.

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, MarcWolfe said:

Well, looking at size per performance i think mine still wins. That thing is much more than four times the size of a Node 202.

Do you know what "density" means?

Its in your title, so you should...

 

Yeah its like 4x time size, it also has several hundred times the computing power, ram, storage, etc...

Still more power dense

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4 minutes ago, MarcWolfe said:

If you think there is something anywhere near as small with more power (that an average enthusiast could make use of) I'd love to know.

No not really   But thanks for clarifying; it seems I was right - this is about making the smallest possible high-end enthusiast rig you can, not necessarily the most power dense build.  Which there is nothing wrong with - quite frankly it is a lot more relevant and useful to everyone here, but I just wanted to be clear what the goal was.

4 minutes ago, MarcWolfe said:

Well, looking at size per performance i think mine still wins. That thing is much more than four times the size of a Node 202.

And a lot more than 4 times the performance too if you use the right cards

[MarcWolfe]

50 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Do you know what "density" means?

Its in your title, so you should...

 

Yeah its like 4x time size, it also has several hundred times the computing power, ram, storage, etc...

Still more power dense

Several hudred!? Lmao No. It could have more power per volume depending on CPU(s). 2 E5-2699 V3s would keep me from arguing witch is more dense. But I'll argue the crap out of that "several hundred" nonsense.

51 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

No not really   But thanks for clarifying; it seems I was right - this is about making the smallest possible high-end enthusiast rig you can, not necessarily the most power dense build.  Which there is nothing wrong with - quite frankly it is a lot more relevant and useful to everyone here, but I just wanted to be clear what the goal was.

And a lot more than 4 times the performance too if you use the right cards

I'm trying to leep it (somewhat) "practical" with this one. Lol

[Enderman]

2 hours ago, MarcWolfe said:

Several hudred!? Lmao No. It could have more power per volume depending on CPU(s). 2 E5-2699 V3s would keep me from arguing witch is more dense. But I'll argue the crap out of that "several hundred" nonsense.

I'm trying to leep it (somewhat) "practical" with this one. Lol

thats a quad CPU server, and a single rack usually has about 10-20 of those

also you can have coprocessors in servers like the third image i posted

one xeon phi has 61 cores and you can fit 12 per unit

 

clearly you have little idea of what server hardware is, but if you are actually talking about computing power "density" you cannot beat enterprise server hardware.

[MarcWolfe]

9 minutes ago, Enderman said:

thats a quad CPU server, and a single rack usually has about 10-20 of those

also you can have coprocessors in servers like the third image i posted

one xeon phi has 61 cores and you can fit 12 per unit

 

clearly you have little idea of what server hardware is, but if you are actually talking about computing power "density" you cannot beat enterprise server hardware.

Yes, I've argued the same point to other dumbasses. That build didn't have any xeon phi's, and your point about putting more more servers in a rack does not change the density. By your logic i could throw 100 of the rigs that i described into a box and say "i win". Each server (assuming they are actually built the same) has the same power density, there fore the entire cabinet of servers has the same density. 

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, MarcWolfe said:

Yes, I've argued the same point to other dumbasses. That build didn't have any xeon phi's, and your point about putting more more servers in a rack does not change the density. By your logic i could throw 100 of the rigs that i described into a box and say "i win". Each server (assuming they are actually built the same) has the same power density, there fore the entire cabinet of servers has the same density. 

actually thats not how it works

some units are just GPUs and PSUs, you actually need a second unit with the motherboard, CPUs, and ram, which is linked to the coprocessors.

So by doubling the size you can increase the computing power by many more teraflops

 

as i said earlier, no use arguing with someone who doesnt know anything about server hardware.

go fantasize about you "most dense build" somewhere else

[MarcWolfe]

25 minutes ago, Enderman said:

actually thats not how it works

some units are just GPUs and PSUs, you actually need a second unit with the motherboard, CPUs, and ram, which is linked to the coprocessors.

So by doubling the size you can increase the computing power by many more teraflops

 

as i said earlier, no use arguing with someone who doesnt know anything about server hardware.

go fantasize about you "most dense build" somewhere else

Go be ignorant somewhere else. So you're saying that those GPUs aren't even in an entire computer, so the entire computer has to be even bigger than that case? Lol damn, now you make less sense. I know how the modules are connected through PCIe cables, its not complicated, only expensive.

[Enderman]

13 minutes ago, MarcWolfe said:

Go be ignorant somewhere else. So you're saying that those GPUs aren't even in an entire computer, so the entire computer has to be even bigger than that case? Lol damn, now you make less sense. I know how the modules are connected through PCIe cables, its not complicated, only expensive.

the "case" is the server rack which houses all the components

and no, you do not use PCIe cables to connect servers together

[MarcWolfe]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

the "case" is the server rack which houses all the components

and no, you do not use PCIe cables to connect servers together

High end server systems sure as hell do. I thought you were talking high end.... no? Doing a little back pedaling instead?

[Godlygamer23]

This thread is literally going nowhere. Locked.