Z97 vs X170 system (for racing/flight sims @ 144 G-Synched)

[JustaBug]

Hi everyone.

 

I'd just like to know if these two systems will run Assetto Corsa, iRacing, and DCS, at 144 Hz, 144 FPS, 2560x1440, G-Synched, in a single monitor, and with TrackIR 5. Four USB ports will be required simultaneously, plus two for a keyboard and trackball. 

 

Which system would you pick?

 

Also, can you tell me if these boards can use the M.2 storage at full 32GB/s performance, without downgrading the speed of the graphics card's PCI Express port? I read in a few places that some motherboards would only let the port run at 8X instead of 16X, if the M.2 slot where to be used at 32GB/s (or something like that)...

 

Thank you.

 

Component	Z97
Processor	Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz
Graphics card	Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti Amp! Extreme 6GB
RAM	G Skill Int F3-2666C11D-16GTXD
Storage	950 PRO 512GB M.2 NVMe - MZ-V5P512BW
Monitor	Asus PG278Q
Power supply	?
Motherboard	ASRock Z97 Extreme9
Case	?
OS	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)

 

Component	X170
Processor	Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Graphics card	Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti Amp! Extreme 6GB
RAM	G Skill Int F4-3200C14D-16GVR
Storage	950 PRO 512GB M.2 NVMe - MZ-V5P512BW
Monitor	Asus PG278Q
Power supply	?
Motherboard	MAXIMUS VIII HERO
Case	?
OS	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)

 

[cortexcortex]

What's your budget? Also, you won't be getting 32GB/s speeds, you'd be getting about 2.5GB/s

[JustaBug]

2 minutes ago, cortexcortex said:

What's your budget? Also, you won't be getting 32GB/s speeds, you'd be getting about 2.5GB/s

I'd like to stay under 2500/2600€, excluding gaming peripherals.

Would you mind elaborating on the M.2 port speed issue?

 

Thanks.

[cortexcortex]

31 minutes ago, JustaBug said:

I'd like to stay under 2500/2600€, excluding gaming peripherals.

Would you mind elaborating on the M.2 port speed issue?

 

Thanks.

Including monitor?

[cortexcortex]

Not including monitor:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($202.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($649.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($649.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($20.00) 
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($66.98 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2701.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-27 09:01 EST-0500

 

Including monitor:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($202.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($649.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($20.00) 
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 144Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($573.90 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($66.98 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2625.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-27 09:02 EST-0500

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

144Hz? Checked 

Nvidia? Checked

 

All requirements checked for a high clock speed issue. I'd look into how loud the Zotac fans are. And possibly a quieter one.

 

Anyway. I'd pick build 2. Don't know much about storage speeds. Oh and I'd recommend getting a SuperFlower or SeaSonic PSU since you still have a "?" there. 

[jol159]

1 hour ago, JustaBug said:

Hi everyone.

 

I'd just like to know if these two systems will run Assetto Corsa, iRacing, and DCS, at 144 Hz, 144 FPS, 2560x1440, G-Synched, in a single monitor, and with TrackIR 5. Four USB ports will be required simultaneously, plus two for a keyboard and trackball. 

 

Which system would you pick?

 

Also, can you tell me if these boards can use the M.2 storage at full 32GB/s performance, without downgrading the speed of the graphics card's PCI Express port? I read in a few places that some motherboards would only let the port run at 8X instead of 16X, if the M.2 slot where to be used at 32GB/s (or something like that)...

 

Thank you.

 

Component	Z97
Processor	Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz
Graphics card	Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti Amp! Extreme 6GB
RAM	G Skill Int F3-2666C11D-16GTXD
Storage	950 PRO 512GB M.2 NVMe - MZ-V5P512BW
Monitor	Asus PG278Q
Power supply	?
Motherboard	ASRock Z97 Extreme9
Case	?
OS	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)

 

Component	X170
Processor	Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Graphics card	Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti Amp! Extreme 6GB
RAM	G Skill Int F4-3200C14D-16GVR
Storage	950 PRO 512GB M.2 NVMe - MZ-V5P512BW
Monitor	Asus PG278Q
Power supply	?
Motherboard	MAXIMUS VIII HERO
Case	?
OS	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)

 

according to pc part picker if you get a motherboard like the z170-A the m.2 slot uses the bandwidth of a sata express slot. as there aren't any sata express drives anywhere just now you could use that motherboard without taking gpu bandwidth

[jol159]

Just now, jol159 said:

according to pc part picker if you get a motherboard like the z170-A the m.2 slot uses the bandwidth of a sata express slot. as there aren't any sata express drives anywhere just now you could use that motherboard without taking gpu bandwidth

I would pick the z170 pc with the z170-A motherboard if I were you.

[JustaBug]

On 27/02/2016 at 1:55 PM, cortexcortex said:

Including monitor?

Yes, but you already answered it, so thanks!

However, I still don't know what you mean by

On 27/02/2016 at 1:18 PM, cortexcortex said:

you won't be getting 32GB/s speeds, you'd be getting about 2.5GB/s

 

[JustaBug]

On 27/02/2016 at 2:06 PM, Pohernori said:

All requirements checked for a high clock speed issue

with what, noise, temperature? Or something worse? I don't get it

 

I'll look into your suggested PSU, thank you

[JustaBug]

On 27/02/2016 at 2:42 PM, jol159 said:

On 27/02/2016 at 2:40 PM, jol159 said:

according to pc part picker if you get a motherboard like the z170-A the m.2 slot uses the bandwidth of a sata express slot. as there aren't any sata express drives anywhere just now you could use that motherboard without taking gpu bandwidth

I would pick the z170 pc with the z170-A motherboard if I were you.

Ok, now I understand the "sharing thingy" problem, thanks.

Hmm the Z170-A is actually cheaper, too. Nice!

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

49 minutes ago, JustaBug said:

with what, noise, temperature? Or something worse? I don't get it

 

I'll look into your suggested PSU, thank you

 

The 980 Ti  might idle at higher clock speeds when you set your refresh rate to 144Hz(typically 800mhz - 1000mhz). And this will of course lead to an increase in temp, power consumption and noise(depending on cooler) when you idle on your PC.