500$ build help

[GrimIcarus]

Hey guys, it that random guy on the forums who is new and hopes this is a good place to start, with another nooby question.

I would like to know If its possible to make a 500$ gaming build that functions properly enough to run minesweeper (I'm joking, ARK survival evolved for example)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PRN9f7 AMD Athlon 860K build

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yr8qD3 AMD FX 4300 Build

 

is there a build that can compete with this is terms of performance as log as it matches my price

thanks in advanced

 

[SirWendall]

6 minutes ago, GrimIcarus said:

Hey guys, it that random guy on the forums who is new and hopes this is a good place to start, with another nooby question.

I would like to know If its possible to make a 500$ gaming build that functions properly enough to run minesweeper (I'm joking, ARK survival evolved for example)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PRN9f7 AMD Athlon 860K build

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yr8qD3 AMD FX 4300 Build

 

is there a build that can compete with this is terms of performance as log as it matches my price

thanks in advanced

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GamerMan232/saved/J74H99

Almost $500

[Djole123]

Waay better performance outta this one:

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $506.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-18 11:18 EST-0500

[mcfloxxx]

I think you should be fine with 8gigs of ram  and you can spend that extra money for a better gpu.

Anyway I cant rate the cpu and mobo because im also kinda new and what I have learned until now is mostly Intel.

I hope someone else can help you and i wish you good luck!

 

Edit: wasnt fast enough

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, GamerMan said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GamerMan232/saved/J74H99

Almost $500

 

Just now, Djole123 said:

Waay better performance outta this one:

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 400W ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $506.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-18 11:18 EST-0500

Both those psu´s are no.

 

8 minutes ago, GrimIcarus said:

Hey guys, it that random guy on the forums who is new and hopes this is a good place to start, with another nooby question.

I would like to know If its possible to make a 500$ gaming build that functions properly enough to run minesweeper (I'm joking, ARK survival evolved for example)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PRN9f7 AMD Athlon 860K build

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yr8qD3 AMD FX 4300 Build

 

is there a build that can compete with this is terms of performance as log as it matches my price

thanks in advanced

 

Here:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($74.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($18.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($178.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC FM08-Blue ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $496.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-18 11:20 EST-0500

[SirWendall]

Just now, mcfloxxx said:

I think you should be fine with 8gigs of ram  and you can spend that extra money for a better gpu.

Anyway I cant rate the cpu and mobo because im also kinda new and what I have learned until now is mostly Intel.

I hope someone else can help you and i wish you good luck!

8GB is plenty of RAM plus the only game I know that'd use more is SW:Battlefront

[Djole123]

8 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Both those psu´s are no.

I'm completely aware of that. But I can't put anything better because of limited budget, and it's still way better than Diablotek and Logisys...

[Starelementpoke]

Just now, Djole123 said:

I'm completely aware of that. But I can't put anything better because of limited budget, and it's still way better than Diablotek and Logisys...

It´s barley better. I did better:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($74.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($18.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($178.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC FM08-Blue ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $496.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-18 11:20 EST-0500

[Djole123]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

It´s barley better. I did better:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($74.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($18.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($178.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC FM08-Blue ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $496.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-18 11:20 EST-0500

That is not better. Yes, PSU is better but performance, no.

 

Compare it:

 

i5 4440-Athlon X4 860K

R9 380-R9 280 (4G vs 3G)

 

So in terms of performance it's better on my side.

[Jack Kaye Pc Gamer]

28 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

 

Both those psu´s are no.

 

Here:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T6YY4D/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($74.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($18.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($178.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC FM08-Blue ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $496.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-18 11:20 EST-0500

The cpu will bottleneck the gpu

[Starelementpoke]

2 hours ago, Jack Kaye Pc Gamer said:

The cpu will bottleneck the gpu

Actually won't. At least not very badly.

 

2 hours ago, Djole123 said:

That is not better. Yes, PSU is better but performance, no.

 

Compare it:

 

i5 4440-Athlon X4 860K

R9 380-R9 280 (4G vs 3G)

 

So in terms of performance it's better on my side.

You can't have better performance if the computer sets on fire.

[Tautedorus]

Do not cheap out on PSUs. Of course you will save up ~30$. BUT! If a PSU fails, it will bring "his friends" (other components) together to hell too. And you will spend way more than 30$ (those you have "saved") on new components and a better PSU of course .

[Jack Kaye Pc Gamer]

15 hours ago, Starelementpoke said:

Actually won't. At least not very badly.

 

You can't have better performance if the computer sets on fire.

Yes it will, i have the 750k which is only a little less powerful with a 280x and my gpu usage is bottlenecked to around 30-40% when playing games like gta 5. So yes, there will be a large bottleneck

[GrimIcarus]

I honestly did not expect this much attention and that much argument can anyone give me the better computer  when It comes to, (seperatly) Upgradabiltiy, Performance and Price

I'm the bottom of the barrel when it comes to PC parts (kinda the reason why I'm here in the first place) <3

[Tautedorus]

1 minute ago, GrimIcarus said:

I honestly did not expect this much attention and that much argument can anyone give me the better computer  when It comes to, (seperatly) Upgradabiltiy, Performance and Price

I'm the bottom of the barrel when it comes to PC parts (kinda the reason why I'm here in the first place) <3

Buy the one that was suggested by @Starelementpoke .

[Starelementpoke]

1 hour ago, Jack Kaye Pc Gamer said:

Yes it will, i have the 750k which is only a little less powerful with a 280x and my gpu usage is bottlenecked to around 30-40% when playing games like gta 5. So yes, there will be a large bottleneck

Which is why I put in an aftermarket's cooler for the overclocks. People have used 6300 with 280xs just fine, and the 860k has better IPC. 

[Starelementpoke]

1 hour ago, Jack Kaye Pc Gamer said:

Yes it will, i have the 750k which is only a little less powerful with a 280x and my gpu usage is bottlenecked to around 30-40% when playing games like gta 5. So yes, there will be a large bottleneck

Also, the 860k is much better than the 750k. The 860k has got steamroller architecture, while the 750k has piledriver as an architecture, which is a good chunk older.

[Jack Kaye Pc Gamer]

23 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Also, the 860k is much better than the 750k. The 860k has got steamroller architecture, while the 750k has piledriver as an architecture, which is a good chunk older.

It will still largley bottleneck though

[tataklee]

This would be my suggestion. You'd have a clear upgrade path, while the i3-6100 eats any similarly priced AMD CPU for breakfast when it comes to gaming. I went with an GTX 960 because some benchmarks seem to indicate that this GPU does better with an i3 than its AMD counterparts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($123.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($51.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $491.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-19 09:02 EST-0500

[SirWendall]

16 hours ago, tataklee said:

This would be my suggestion. You'd have a clear upgrade path, while the i3-6100 eats any similarly priced AMD CPU for breakfast when it comes to gaming. I went with an GTX 960 because some benchmarks seem to indicate that this GPU does better with an i3 than its AMD counterparts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($123.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($51.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $491.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-19 09:02 EST-0500

you could make a 6500 build for less than $500 though

[tataklee]

1 minute ago, GamerMan said:

you could make a 6500 build for less than $500 though

But then you'd have to really gimp on the video card.

[SirWendall]

16 hours ago, tataklee said:

This would be my suggestion. You'd have a clear upgrade path, while the i3-6100 eats any similarly priced AMD CPU for breakfast when it comes to gaming. I went with an GTX 960 because some benchmarks seem to indicate that this GPU does better with an i3 than its AMD counterparts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($123.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($51.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $491.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-19 09:02 EST-0500

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($90.00) 
Case: Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $497.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 201

You can get a second hand 750ti on ebay for about $90

Plus it'd be on the Z170 chipset

[tataklee]

Just now, GamerMan said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($90.00) 
Case: Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $497.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 201

You can get a second hand 750ti on ebay for about $90

This certainly is a viable option, but while the i5-6500 and i3-6100 are almost equal in terms of gaming performance the difference between a GTX 960 and 750 Ti is much more substantial.

[Starelementpoke]

1 hour ago, Jack Kaye Pc Gamer said:

It will still largley bottleneck though

Not really, 860k has better IPC than the 6300, and the 6300 is great with the 280x.

 

23 minutes ago, tataklee said:

This would be my suggestion. You'd have a clear upgrade path, while the i3-6100 eats any similarly priced AMD CPU for breakfast when it comes to gaming. I went with an GTX 960 because some benchmarks seem to indicate that this GPU does better with an i3 than its AMD counterparts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($123.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($51.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($30.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $491.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-19 09:02 EST-0500

What benchmarks say that?

[SirWendall]

15 hours ago, tataklee said:

This certainly is a viable option, but while the i5-6500 and i3-6100 are almost equal in terms of gaming performance the difference between a GTX 960 and 750 Ti is much more substantial.

A quad core is gonna be better anyways even with a downgrade to a 750ti. That dual-core will hurt in AAA games