Why is Java so much harder to learn?

[legend8887]

I'm in a beginning computer science class at school and we are learning Java. I'm really struggling with it and the first and only language we are learning in Java. Well I researched it and everyone I looked it said Java was one of the hardest languages to learn. Is this true or am I just not good at programming?

[Atmos]

Why on earth would you start with java.

 

You should have taken a c# class first, it helps to lay out the fundamentals far better, and gets you into thinking in that same logical progression way you need to for coding.

 

And the reason java is hard, is cuz java is shit. It's one of the most haphazard coding languages out there.

[Guest]

All programming languages are different, Its down to the person really, 

Do you think Logically? If so, It'll naturally be easier.

[Enderman]

because its coded like crap

ask any professional programmer
 

its very unintuitive and overcomplicated compared to other languages

 

but many years ago it was chosen as the main language by some large corporation and now its used everywhere even though it sucks

http://tech.jonathangardner.net/wiki/Why_Java_Sucks

[Stardar1]

I'm in a beginning computer science class at school and we are learning Java. I'm really struggling with it and the first and only language we are learning in Java. Well I researched it and everyone I looked it said Java was one of the hardest languages to learn. Is this true or am I just not good at programming?

I mean, I did not think that Java was difficult, but i had experience in C# before that. (very similar language)

 

Perhaps Object Oriented just isnt for you.

[Stardar1]

Why on earth would you start with java.

 

You should have taken a c# class first, it helps to lay out the fundamentals far better, and gets you into thinking in that same logical progression way you need to for coding.

 

And the reason java is hard, is cuz java is shit. It's one of the most haphazard coding languages out there.

While I agree that C#>Java, I would think that Java is easier to learn because you do not have to deal pointers and things like that. Java has less in it, does it not?

 

Also Java is the least resource-efficient language I have ever had the displeasure of programming in

[legend8887]

Why on earth would you start with java.

You should have taken a c# class first, it helps to lay out the fundamentals far better, and gets you into thinking in that same logical progression way you need to for coding.

And the reason java is hard, is cuz java is shit. It's one of the most haphazard coding languages out there.

I didn't have a choice. It was this class or no computer science.

[asiancorruption]

same for me. The attention to detail is key when it comes to java. semicolon here, misspelled variable here wrong symbol there is basically the first few weeks of java for me. Now it's so easy to learn other languages like python or arduino code because you've developed the eye for detail and because of repetition. 

[suchamoneypit]

I'm in a beginning computer science class at school and we are learning Java. I'm really struggling with it and the first and only language we are learning in Java. Well I researched it and everyone I looked it said Java was one of the hardest languages to learn. Is this true or am I just not good at programming?

it is a little confusing. Im taking a beginners Java course right now, and having some troubles. I have had some nice people help me out in the Programming section though, if your having trouble with something specific im sure some people would be willing to help you out.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

because its coded like crap

ask any professional programmer

 

its very unintuitive and overcomplicated compared to other languages

 

but many years ago it was chosen as the main language by some large corporation and now its used everywhere even though it sucks

http://tech.jonathangardner.net/wiki/Why_Java_Sucks

 

Why. My prog teacher, who is a proffesional, he does all kinds of programs ays Java is the best and all.

[KraftDinner]

I wouldn't worry about it too much, I would recommend learning something like Python first but I understand you're in a class so you probably have to focus in on Java. Ask your teacher questions, do tons of research and most importantly start a personal project. If anything will help it is starting a personal project, you will run into so many issues that will force you to research and it'll make you a much better programmer.

[Atmos]

While I agree that C#>Java, I would think that Java is easier to learn because you do not have to deal pointers and things like that. Java has less in it, does it not?

 

Also Java is the least resource-efficient language I have ever had the displeasure of programming in

java resource efficient... rofl...

 

print("Easiest starting language imo is Lua, very simple, based on c# but with much easier threads and strings.")

end

[Stardar1]

java resource efficient... rofl...

 

Easiest starting language imo is Lua, very simple, based on c# but with much easier threads and strings.

Lua is not one i know, it isnt OO is it?

 

Never had issues with strings myself, and for entry level, threads do not matter much. 

[l3entumbling]

You'll get used to it. Try finding simple problem over the internet and solving them through java. Once you get the hang of creating algorithms and understanding the logic, any programming language should be easy. They all use the same concept (OOP), the difference is just the syntax. 

 

Keep practicing, try solving easy problems first like, a basic calculator program, then find at least 3 algorithm to solve that. Also try using IDE's at first that can help you fix syntax and find run-time or compile errors and try to understand these errors. If you can't do a step, google it

 

Good luck (Y)

[Guest Kloaked]

java resource efficient... rofl...

 

I think you misread the person's post, maybe.

[Enderman]

Why. My prog teacher, who is a proffesional, he does all kinds of programs ays Java is the best and all.

there are a ton of reasons why it sucks, a few which are in that link i posted which you obviously didnt read

 

and that probably his personal opinion if all he has used is java

 

my programming teacher, who knows linus torvalds, also claims that java is bad compared to other languages

[spenser_l]

What exactly are you having difficulty with regarding Java specifically?

[legend8887]

What exactly are you having difficulty with regarding Java specifically?

Fundamentals

[Stuff_]

java resource efficient... rofl...

 

print("Easiest starting language imo is Lua, very simple, based on c# but with much easier threads and strings.")

end

You're letting your rage towards Java cloud your readability. 

He said that Java is NOT resource friendly. 

 

I personally like Java. 

 

 

Fundamentals

Throw some examples down here. Maybe we can help you out.

[spenser_l]

Fundamentals

 

As in object oriented concepts? If it makes you feel any better, once you get these (you will don't worry) it applies to more than Java. So it's not really the language or syntax that you have trouble with; which is normal at first.

[afyeung]

Why on earth would you start with java.

 

You should have taken a c# class first, it helps to lay out the fundamentals far better, and gets you into thinking in that same logical progression way you need to for coding.

 

And the reason java is hard, is cuz java is shit. It's one of the most haphazard coding languages out there.

 

I'm in a beginning computer science class at school and we are learning Java. I'm really struggling with it and the first and only language we are learning in Java. Well I researched it and everyone I looked it said Java was one of the hardest languages to learn. Is this true or am I just not good at programming?

Java's object oriented style and strong types are what make it different from newer languages. No, it is not the most efficient out there. But it will teach you a lot and if you just bear with it learning other languages in the future will be easier. 

And I wouldn't call java "shit". That's just plain rude to the people who spent a lot of time making it. It can do a lot of powerful things and is a jack of all trades. Not the best for basically everything now a days, but definitely not "shit". 

[afyeung]

 

And yes, it is hard to learn. Anything that makes you think in a different style then what you're used to will be hard at first. Solving problems and thinking in terms of objects can be difficult, that and recursive functions are really hard when you start learning Java. 

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

there are a ton of reasons why it sucks, a few which are in that link i posted which you obviously didnt read

 

and that probably his personal opinion if all he has used is java

 

my programming teacher, who knows linus torvalds, also claims that java is bad compared to other languages

 

Don't worry, I did read it. I'm just writing what he said, it's like funny cause we all praise him and say he likes Java so much but everyone says it's bad.

 

My teacher was also super fan of Linus over Windows. 

[Enderman]

Don't worry, I did read it. I'm just writing what he said, it's like funny cause we all praise him and say he likes Java so much but everyone says it's bad.

 

My teacher was also super fan of Linus over Windows. 

You mean linux, right?

 

Same with my teacher

pretty much every programmer loves linux

[madknight3]

am I just not good at programming?

 

Learning to program in any language can be difficult but that doesn't mean you won't get it with some time and effort. Java is far from impossible to learn as your first language so stick with it.

 

If you find it hard to learn from the class lectures alone, then perhaps you can use other resources to help. There are so many tutorials (both written and video) and books for teaching beginners Java.

 

Java Tutorial For Complete Beginners is a frequently recommend video course.

Head First Java is a frequently recommended beginner book.

Tutorials Point can be a useful reference.

 

We're also here to help when you get stuck on something.