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I was thinking of upgrading from my current AMD setup to get a better expansion path and better gaming performance, and I discovered something interesting. It's basically the same price if I go to Skylake or Haswell, so which would have better performance? I'm not really familiar with the Skylake gaming performance, but the fact that an upgrade to a DDR4 platform is so cheap is quite intriguing.

 

 

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And yes, I know there's plenty of cheaper motherboard and RAM choices to get a better CPU, but I'm the type of loser that pays $50 more for a nice paintjob (my CSGO inventory can confirm)

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I would recommend buying a new GPU first, and overclocking your CPU. Then save up and get a new CPU/mobo. 

 

For the price of those you could get an R9 390 or a 290X. 

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I would recommend buying a new GPU first, and overclocking your CPU. Then save up and get a new CPU/mobo. 

 

For the price of those you could get an R9 390 or a 290X. 

I'll be buying a new R9 380 for Christmas and sell my current setup to get the new CPU and Motherboard. I'm well aware that my GPU is shit :P

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I would recommend buying a new GPU first, and overclocking your CPU. Then save up and get a new CPU/mobo. 

 

For the price of those you could get an R9 390 or a 290X.

270x isn't THAT bad.

 

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Skylake or no lake m8, haswell more like slightly less performances-well

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270x isn't THAT bad.

It gets the job done, but low settings is starting to hurt my eyeballs

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Skylake or no lake m8, haswell more like slightly less performances-well

This is the answer I was looking for. An actual reply about the CPUs and not my GPU :P

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This is the answer I was looking for. An actual reply about the CPUs and not my GPU :P

"Skylake or Haswell?" Not "What GPU". I play by the thread m8.

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This is the answer I was looking for. An actual reply about the CPUs and not my GPU :P

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Both are good. Might as well go skylake since its so cheap.

 

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270x isn't THAT bad.

He'd still be better off buying a new GPU, since upgrading his CPU won't give him but maybe 6 FPS more. 

 

This is the answer I was looking for. An actual reply about the CPUs and not my GPU :P

What I said up there^, upgrading your CPU won't give you crazy benifits in gaming, getting a new GPU would. 

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Kind Of A Home Lab "Bay":

Ryzen 9 5900XT | Intel ARC A310 | ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS | T-FORCE 3200MT/s 16GBx2 + Corsair 3200MT/s 32GBx2 = 96GB!!! WOW!! | 2TB boot SSD + 8TBx6 HDD RaidZ2 | EVGA SuperNOVA 650W G2 | Phanteks Enthoo Pro M | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

 

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the haswell one is sli compattible while the skylake isn't (I think)...

keep that in mind. for that reason I would say haswell

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the haswell one is sli compattible while the skylake isn't (I think)...

keep that in mind. for that reason I would say haswell

I don't plan on doing any SLI anytime soon, can't afford 2x 980ti and it's best to get the best single GPU :)

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He'd still be better off buying a new GPU, since upgrading his CPU won't give him but maybe 6 FPS more. 

As I said, I know. I'm upgrading my GPU first, this is an upgrade plan for a few months from now. 

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Skylake...

 

...but since the R9 270X isn't that bad really, you could go with an i5-6600K for now then buy an R9 380X maybe early next year.

Having the option to overclock when the CPU gets old is like a sweet bonus...Just sayin'  B)

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For me I start with the "There's no way I'm not gonna spend $1,000 on a system."

Followed by the "Wow I need to buy the OS for a $100!?"

Then "Let's start with the 'best budget GPU' and 'best budget CPU' that actually fits what I think is my budget."

Realizing my budget is a lot less, I work my way to "I think these new games will run on a cheap ass CPU."

Then end with "The new parts launching next year is probably gonna be better and faster for the same price so I'll just buy next year."

 

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Skylake...

 

...but since the R9 270X isn't that bad really, you could go with an i5-6600K for now then buy an R9 380X maybe early next year.

Having the option to overclock when the CPU gets old is like a sweet bonus...Just sayin'  B)

Skylake "locked" OCing is coming. Follow the news, you'll see it popping up all over the place.

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Skylake "locked" OCing is coming. Follow the news, you'll see it popping up all over the place.

I know about it, but the thing is, there is a possibility that Intel may not allow it as they'll lose the market for unlocked processors.

 

It's only a possibility, but the only sure thing for the meantime is the only unlocked ones are the one's with a 'k'.

You can bark like a dog, but that won't make you a dog.

You can act like someone you're not, but that won't change who you are.

 

Finished Crysis without a discrete GPU,15 FPS average, and a lot of heart

 

How I plan my builds -

Spoiler

For me I start with the "There's no way I'm not gonna spend $1,000 on a system."

Followed by the "Wow I need to buy the OS for a $100!?"

Then "Let's start with the 'best budget GPU' and 'best budget CPU' that actually fits what I think is my budget."

Realizing my budget is a lot less, I work my way to "I think these new games will run on a cheap ass CPU."

Then end with "The new parts launching next year is probably gonna be better and faster for the same price so I'll just buy next year."

 

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