Do you like blurry macro shots?

[Congy]

Just want to find out how many people prefer the close ups that are currently done in Linus' videos. An example is this wireless card. Please vote!

[delet my acc pls]

i really like when the object is focused and detailed and the rest is blurry

[Samdb]

I never even noticed.

[M-ursu]

Yes, if they are done well.

[Guest]

yeah it's just a method on how to film a scene to make it look nice. Focus the object of importance so the eye naturally draws to it, then zoom in so it takes up more of the shot so it is easier to see and you can see the tiny details better.

[Scia]

I don't really like them.

But they don't bug me enough to stop watching the vids so I don't care ultimately.

[but I'd prefer them to die in fire ^^]

[Simmytu]

I do prefer these close ups because they won't let you distract on other area's of the video but just "focusing" on a particular part for example this WiFi card. 

[CornOnJacob]

By "blurry," I assume you mean the Depth of Field. I really like that effect and the macro shots. The only thing about them that I HATE is when Linus is showing a feature, component, etc. in particular and the view cuts to a macro shot. You can't see where he is pointing so it defeats the point of showing certain features.

[brat137]

The problem with this question is that the image is only blurry when you take the screenshot at a specific point in the video. The macro footage shows close ups of features and parts of products really well, as the focus shifting allows you to really see all of the detail in each shot. But then when you freeze like above it looks blurry.

 

I personally like them as it shows the product better then when its just being held by Linus. Which afterall is kind of the point in watching unboxings. To see the product.

[Salmiakbal]

It depends

If the camera is facing the object in focus orthogonally and if the unimportant background is out of focus, then yes

If the camera is facing the object in focus at an angle so that the object is just slightly in focus, then no

Let me clarify

A photo I shot:

 

 

The shocks are entirely in focus because I wanted to show those entirely

The photo in the OP is also good. The photo is about the PCIe card, and it's entirely in focus

 

Example of bad blurry photo (though it's actually video, but whatever)

 

 

I want to see the entire shroud and fan, not just the hub

[Congy]

It depends

If the camera is facing the object in focus orthogonally and if the unimportant background is out of focus, then yes

If the camera is facing the object in focus at an angle so that the object is just slightly in focus, then no

Let me clarify

A photo I shot:

 

 

The shocks are entirely in focus because I wanted to show those entirely

The photo in the OP is also good. The photo is about the PCIe card, and it's entirely in focus

 

Example of bad blurry photo (though it's actually video, but whatever)

 

 

I want to see the entire shroud and fan, not just the hub

 

I completely agree with you. There is great detail on the suspensions on the bike and the rest is blurry. That's how Linus' close up shots should be! The small window of clarity on Linus' close up shots is just generally producing a bad image. Maybe you should work for Linus Salmiakbal? hehe

[Jozi]

Love macros, but blurry not so much.

[Puppet]

I think it was explained fairly well to you in your other thread by myself and others that with certain size sensors, focal length glass and available lighting that there are limitations as to how much can be in focus.

 

In that shot of the bike, it has a far shorter focal length with far less background compression, if you were to use the same focal length as in linus videos and shoot that close up you would have the same shallow DOF, might vary slightly depending on sensor size.

[Salmiakbal]

I think it was explained fairly well to you in your other thread by myself and others that with certain size sensors, focal length glass and available lighting that there are limitations as to how much can be in focus.

 

In that shot of the bike, it has a far shorter focal length with far less background compression, if you were to use the same focal length as in linus videos and shoot that close up you would have the same shallow DOF, might vary slightly depending on sensor size.

The thing is that the shocks are more or less orthogonal to the lens

The fan of the graphics card is at a heavy angle, so only the middle is in focus instead of the entire card

If the fan was to be filmed from the top, it would be entirely in focus

 

 

 

I completely agree with you. There is great detail on the suspensions on the bike and the rest is blurry. That's how Linus' close up shots should be! The small window of clarity on Linus' close up shots is just generally producing a bad image. Maybe you should work for Linus Salmiakbal? hehe

 

Haha, I'm nothing special

[Puppet]

The thing is that the shocks are more or less orthogonal to the lens

The fan of the graphics card is at a heavy angle, so only the middle is in focus instead of the entire card

If the fan was to be filmed from the top, it would be entirely in focus

 

I think it has a lot more to do with the focal length and distance to subject, your shot is fairly wide, you can see the whole room behind.

 

In Linus video you can only see a small portion of a box in the background, if he were to use the same lens you did and fill the frame with the graphics card like in the video you would see a lot more of the background as its less compressed which looks far worse than shallow DOF IMO, and that's assuming the lens you are using has the ability to focus at that distance.

 

Angle obviously plays a part as you are intersecting the focal plane, but that is not why your images look different. 

[Congy]

I think it was explained fairly well to you in your other thread by myself and others that with certain size sensors, focal length glass and available lighting that there are limitations as to how much can be in focus.

 

In that shot of the bike, it has a far shorter focal length with far less background compression, if you were to use the same focal length as in linus videos and shoot that close up you would have the same shallow DOF, might vary slightly depending on sensor size.

 

This thread was just to simply highlight how many people liked or disliked the way close ups were done, nothing technical.

[Guest]

For the most part I like it.

 

I dislike it when Linus is describing/pointing out something specific on the product while the close up macro shot is showing something completely unrelated.

[Puppet]

This thread was just to simply highlight how many people liked or disliked the way close ups were done, nothing technical.

 

Cool, I just thought it would be worthwhile to add some of my own input as to why it might not be possible to get the desired DOF, at least not with the fs700 and that lens.

 

To be honest I think they are done intentionally to a certain extent, but am guessing that lighting is playing a part in the aperture used.

 

BTT then - I know a lot of people dislike extremely shallow DOF, saying that it is unnatural, and yeah I do think this is kind of borderline, but if you hold a tv remote or keyboard a couple of inches from your eyes and concentrate on a button/key, you'll notice that the rest of them are fairly blurred in your peripheral vision.

 

It doesn't really bother me too much, I think the vids are a vast improvement over the old content. Sorry if you felt I was derailing your thread I am like a moth to a flame when it comes to this stuff

[Congy]

Cool, I just thought it would be worthwhile to add some of my own input as to why it might not be possible to get the desired DOF, at least not with the fs700 and that lens.

 

To be honest I think they are done intentionally to a certain extent, but am guessing that lighting is playing a part in the aperture used.

 

BTT then - I know a lot of people dislike extremely shallow DOF, saying that it is unnatural, and yeah I do think this is kind of borderline, but if you hold a tv remote or keyboard a couple of inches from your eyes and concentrate on a button/key, you'll notice that the rest of them are fairly blurred in your peripheral vision.

 

It doesn't really bother me too much, I think the vids are a vast improvement over the old content. Sorry if you felt I was derailing your thread I am like a moth to a flame when it comes to this stuff

 

Absolutely agree with you, despite my perception of it being 'blurry' it's still a lot better than the older videos!

[Puppet]

Absolutely agree with you, despite my perception of it being 'blurry' it's still a lot better than the older videos!

 

Yeah apologies if it sounded harsh I get it all day every day IRL, and I really have to be nice to those people, It all comes out online :lol:

 

I just think that you have to give photographers and videographers a certain amount of "free rein" and hope for the best, as it may be a limitation of their equipment. This is why you don't really see a photographer that does everything, because they would be bankrupt in no time with all the various stuff they would have to purchase. Going from shooting wides to close ups takes a good bit of effort, lenses changed, lights moved etc, and considering that Linus n Co put these videos out every day, I would tend to forgive them for small things.

 

I wasn't directly trying to argue, I definitely see what you are saying, there's always room for improvement, perhaps increasing the DOF and blending in the cut-aways a little better in editing. I just think that it might be slightly unfair to criticize without knowing all the details, putting unnecessary pressure on them, when the majority of people are more than satisfied with the videos.

 

Sorry I am doing it again... but yeah I think most of us agree that the videos are getting better rather than worse and I think that for the small majority of people who don't like they way things are done are just going to have to wait, I am sure LMG are aware of the concerns and are striving to strike a balance that satisfies everyone. More people will complain when the quirks are gone :lol:

[deafboy]

If they are done well, yes... unfortunately a lot of the time they aren't done well.

[Lamb]

I like the pictures in general but in LinusTechTips videos, they seem thrown in randomly. Sometimes Linus is explaining things and referencing the product, and you just see a big picture going across your screen

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Its called depth of field fools.

[Keystone Nyan Cat]

I like it medium blurred, not super blurred if that makes any sense.

[fracking4oil]

i really like when the object is focused and detailed and the rest is blurry

 

 

This!