8 Year old boy shoots grandmother after playing GTA 4.

[R4STABAN]

Again, you cannot compare Europe to the US. 

Even if guns were completely outlawed in the US, criminals would still have them and they would not be "knackered old revolvers". We have a different beast to deal with in regards to criminals (The cartel and the drug trade from the Carribean, specifically). 

It is just not the same thing.

 

I'm not comparing the two

 

I'm coming at it from a 'you've given up your right to own firearms you foolish clowns!' perspective

 

What I'm getting at is that banning guns has not made our society a post apocalyptic wasteland that the NRA would have you murricans believe. Their propaganda is laughable.

[Vitalius]

I'm not comparing the two

 

I'm coming at it from a 'you've given up your right to own firearms you foolish clowns!' perspective

 

What I'm getting at is that banning guns has not made our society a post apocalyptic wasteland that the NRA would have you murricans believe. Their propaganda is laughable.

As is yours, as I am certain banning guns in the US would not have the same effect here as it did in Australia or the various parts of Europe that have done so. 

Because they are not the same thing.

[Calavera]

As is yours, as I am certain banning guns in the US would not have the same effect here as it did in Australia or the various parts of Europe that have done so. 

Because they are not the same thing.

 

Once again, you Americans often have the illusion that taking guns away makes us very weak and criminals can have their way here... that's not the case at all.

I can go on like this for hours, won't help - come to Europe and see for yourself. If the numbers of homicides is incredibly low, if that doesn't ring a bell then my speech won't either.

[Vitalius]

Once again, you Americans often have the illusion that taking guns away makes us very weak and criminals can have their way here... that's not the case at all.

I can go on like this for hours, won't help - come to Europe and see for yourself. If the numbers of homicides is incredibly low, if that doesn't ring a bell then my speech won't either.

Did I say that? Or anything that implied it? I do not believe I did at all.

It does not matter what results you have attained in Europe/Australia. It is not the same. Stop assuming it is, as it appears you are.

[Night]

The real questions to ask:

Whats an 8 year old playing GTA for? Where are his parents?

Why was there a gun, loaded or not, that the boy could access.

This is not about games, Its about poor parenting and poor firearms safety.

Edit:

Also, Ive noticed comments about American gun control. America does have a problem, The problem is that no one respects firearms.

[IPCharger]

Don't blame GTA 4, blame the retard that gave GTA 4 to an 8 year old.

[Jack.EXE]

Seems legit...

In all seriousness, if a person is willing to shoot their own grandmother, they're allready messed up. Video games don't cause this.

He must have been on some kind of drug to not be able to tell the difference between game and reality.

[Ookami]

Ban games in US! Youll be playing monopoly and still be killing each other. Leaving guns where children can reach - professional parenting. Should have popped heads of those two stupid ret (ohhh sorry CoC) "parents".

[WunderWuffle]

By saying that they teach all 10 year olds how to shoot RPGs.

I Did not say all.

[Jack.EXE]

Once again, you Americans often have the illusion that taking guns away makes us very weak and criminals can have their way here... that's not the case at all.

I can go on like this for hours, won't help - come to Europe and see for yourself. If the numbers of homicides is incredibly low, if that doesn't ring a bell then my speech won't either.

The average time it takes police to respond to a 911 call? 22 minutes.

The average time it takes for a bullet to reach your target from the moment you see it? .600 seconds

I'd rather have my gun in my hand than the police on the phone.

I watch enough discovery to know that a gunshot wound bleeds out in about 30 minutes, so I'm not going to trust a "response force" that takes almost that long to get here.

[xox]

I feel sorrow... My parents were always wary about buying me 18 games.

[fracking4oil]

We have one of the lowest gun homicide rates in the world.

 

 

Yet have a very high overall crime rate, in the UK you're 7 times more likely to be violently mugged & women are 3 times more likely to be raped than in the U.S. Why is this? Because criminals over there don't have a threat of their victim(s) fighting back & possibly killing them. I'll gladly sacrifice the 9,000 hood rats that are killed each year for my & my families safety from criminals that have guns regardless of laws. Unless you have a magic wand, banning guns doesn't make ALL guns vanish, it simply takes away the ability of non criminals to defend themselves from criminals. Europe has never had a large percent of the population armed with firearms, hens the comment about handing out firearms to criminals. One of the most violent times in human history was during the middle ages, yet not one person had a gun.

[fracking4oil]

Update: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/26/us/louisiana-boy-kills-grandmother/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[kaneandtaker]

GTA V will be cancelled

[fracking4oil]

GTA V will be cancelled

 

Perhaps in your country, but we have a thing called the United States Constitution that protect us from such silliness.

[Lil Chillbil]

The average time it takes police to respond to a 911 call? 22 minutes.

The average time it takes for a bullet to reach your target from the moment you see it? .600 seconds

I'd rather have my gun in my hand than the police on the phone.

I watch enough discovery to know that a gunshot wound bleeds out in about 30 minutes, so I'm not going to trust a "response force" that takes almost that long to get here.

 

I agree 100% when I am an adult I plan to get a gun, and give my wife a gun... i'm sure that will mean were both a bit more nicer to eachother and that the relationship will last forever...

 

 

still a better lovestory than twilight...

 

 

but on a serious note PEOPLE SHOULD NOT OWN A GUN IF THEY HAVE KIDS, I DO NOT PLAN ON HAVING KIDS BECAUSE I FOLLOW THE 3 RULES

 

RULE NO.1 KEEP IT WRAPPED

 

RULE NO.2 PULL OUT EVEN WITH IT WRAPPED

 

RULE NO.3 SNEAK BIRTH CONTROL INTO YOUR GF'S CEREAL AT BREAKFAST BECAUSE MURICA

[WunderWuffle]

I agree 100% when I am an adult I plan to get a gun, and give my wife a gun... i'm sure that will mean were both a bit more nicer to eachother and that the relationship will last forever...

 

 

still a better lovestory than twilight...

 

 

but on a serious note PEOPLE SHOULD NOT OWN A GUN IF THEY HAVE KIDS, I DO NOT PLAN ON HAVING KIDS BECAUSE I FOLLOW THE 3 RULES

 

RULE NO.1 KEEP IT WRAPPED

 

RULE NO.2 PULL OUT EVEN WITH IT WRAPPED

 

RULE NO.3 SNEAK BIRTH CONTROL INTO YOUR GF'S CEREAL AT BREAKFAST BECAUSE MURICA

Lol at 3

[JordanMac]

gta v is an 18, shit parents for letting him play the game and have access to a gun.

[Biased Opinion]

maybe the i was actualy a premeditated suicide and the grandmother used the child as a face for it and she also happened to not like gta

[Paredax]

Why was it not in a gun cabinet and why was an 8 year old kid allowed to play a 18+ game? Nothing else need pertain to the argument; poor supervision was the cause.

[BCMods]

Also, on topic: Bad parenting 101. Why the hell was the kid playing GTA in the first place?

Your childhood sucked if you didn't play GTA:SA.

[ConfusedDolphin]

That doesn't sound very accurate sir. The people that pay attention to politics will challenge such things no matter where they are.

The people of the USA do not have some sort of inbuilt sense of freedom and justice acquired by divine birthright.

 

Are you referring to guns in particular? The right to own a gun is ridiculous.

 

The most recent amnesty for firearms in the UK was in 1997 after a school shooting. I was born in 1989 and have never seen a live firearm in person. My parents in were born in 1963 in rural areas and never have either. We have one of the lowest gun homicide rates in the world.

 

Example:

 

Those 2 men that beheaded an off-duty soldier in the street in london had a gun. The best they could get their hands on was a knackered old revolver of some kind. The guy tried to fire it at the police and it blew his hand off.

you can get guns in the uk if you are a criminal

[BCMods]

EDIT: Durr..

[JupiteL]

"Rated M for mature" 

 

And to think government haven't discounted any contraception for this horrific stupidity parent..

[Qpm5]

The real problem is that a LOADED GUN was left in reach of the kid and that he was allowed to play it. The video game is not the problem. If they did really impact us this bad i would be running around hunting for dragons and daedric artifacts.

Edited August 27, 2013 by Qpm5