MSI or Asus cards?

[+Puma+]

Should I get the Asus GTX 960 or the MSI GTX 960?

 

I know MSI has the Twin Frozr 5 but Asus has fully automated assembly so I know some strange Chinese man won't screw up the assembly. What other qualities are there in the two card brands that may make one better than the other.

 

[KemoKa]

MSI's coolers can cool down an R9 290X. Enough said.

MSI wins.

 

but in terms of Nvidia cards, neither is better than the other.

But you should get a 380 or a 280X. It's cheaper and more powerful.

[Morgan MLGman]

MSI. Asus is WAYYYY worse than MSI in graphics cards. But don't get the GTX 960. R9 280X/R9 380/R9 285 are all better for around the same price. I'd go for the R9 280X personally, but the R9 380 is also more powerful and it's newer. Get the 4GB version of 380.

[+Puma+]

MSI. But don't get the GTX 960. R9 280X/R9 380/R9 285 are all better. I'd go for the R9 280X personally, but the R9 380 is also more powerful and it's newer. Get the 4GB version of 380.

I'm putting two of them in SLI. Also, R9 200 is getting REALLY old.

[Morgan MLGman]

I'm putting two of them in SLI

Put two 380's in Crossfire then? Crossfire scales better than SLI and doesn't require a bridge in the R9 380 case, also, more motherboards support it.

I do recommend going for one, stronger card though. It's simply better at that price point, if you give me the exact budget, and your location I might find the best deal for you. Also, tell me what Power Supply do you have

[App4that]

Listen to Morgan, one strong card is always better than two.

[Riv]

Asus for Motherboards. MSI for GPUs

[Kherm]

Mr. Freeman speaks the truth. 

[Boss1295]

Damn, I was just looking at this stuff, have a hard budget of 180 and was looking at 950's or maybe get a 960 if I can find it on sale. I can't spend even a dollar more than 180. Sad. 

 

In the US.

[pckid]

Damn, I was just looking at this stuff, have a hard budget of 180 and was looking at 950's or maybe get a 960 if I can find it on sale. I can't spend even a dollar more than 180. Sad. 

 

In the US.

You could get a r9 380 2gb or a r7 370 4gb.

[+Puma+]

Put two 380's in Crossfire then? Crossfire scales better than SLI and doesn't require a bridge in the R9 380 case, also, more motherboards support it.

I do recommend going for one, stronger card though. It's simply better at that price point, if you give me the exact budget, and your location I might find the best deal for you. Also, tell me what Power Supply do you have

I am playing at 1080p, and two 380's are a lot more expensive then two 960's. With the 960's, the Vram is going to make them obsolete before the performance of the Processor does so that's not a problem for me(rember, I'm playing at 1080p, and not many triple A titles). I really don't need the performance of a 380 and if I was going to get a 300 series card, it would be 390X since it has 8GB of Vram. Although, to keep performance up in years to come, I would need to put 2 or 3 in crossfire, and that's way in the future, and it would be much cheaper and easier to jut buy a new card. Overall, I'm not going to need anything more than GTX 960 SLI, and anything more would be excessive. Also, I prefer Nvidia Cards as apposed to AMD ones(although i'm still a fan of their processors).

[pckid]

I am playing at 1080p, and two 380's are a lot more expensive then two 960's. With the 960's, the Vram is going to make them obsolete before the performance of the Processor does so that's not a problem for me(rember, I'm playing at 1080p, and not many triple A titles). I really don't need the performance of a 380 and if I was going to get a 300 series card, it would be 390X since it has 8GB of Vram. Although, to keep performance up in years to come, I would need to put 2 or 3 in crossfire, and that's way in the future, and it would be much cheaper and easier to jut buy a new card. Overall, I'm not going to need anything more than GTX 960 SLI, and anything more would be excessive. Also, I prefer Nvidia Cards as apposed to AMD ones(although i'm still a fan of their processors).

The r9 380 4gb is cheaper than the gtx 960 4gb if you haven't checked yet.

[Morgan MLGman]

I am playing at 1080p, and two 380's are a lot more expensive then two 960's. With the 960's, the Vram is going to make them obsolete before the performance of the Processor does so that's not a problem for me(rember, I'm playing at 1080p, and not many triple A titles). I really don't need the performance of a 380 and if I was going to get a 300 series card, it would be 390X since it has 8GB of Vram. Although, to keep performance up in years to come, I would need to put 2 or 3 in crossfire, and that's way in the future, and it would be much cheaper and easier to jut buy a new card. Overall, I'm not going to need anything more than GTX 960 SLI, and anything more would be excessive. Also, I prefer Nvidia Cards as apposed to AMD ones(although i'm still a fan of their processors).

Are R9 280X or R9 285 also a lot more expensive than 960's at your location? If they're not, get two of those (if you really want a dual-card setup, which isn't advised at this point, with one, more powerful GPU you can always throw in another one in 2-3 years and still be rocking high settings in AAA titles)

R9 390/R9 290X are the best for their price, maybe consider going that route? It's a much safer bet. You shouldn't "prefer" an Nvidia card based on the name of the brand, if you're not going to be using any of the Nvidia-specific features, you shouldn't go for a worse GPU just cause it's called Nvidia

Nonetheless, what's your power supply? It needs to be appropriate for both, dual-card setups as well as a single, more power hungry GPU.

[+Puma+]

Damn, I was just looking at this stuff, have a hard budget of 180 and was looking at 950's or maybe get a 960 if I can find it on sale. I can't spend even a dollar more than 180. Sad. 

 

In the US.

Go for a 750 TI and save up for something better later. Its a fantastic card, its what I'm using now and its absolutely amazing for its price. As long as your  gaming 1080p and not playing anything like BF4 and Crysis 3 on ultra, it'll get the job done and is extremely reliable. You'll never have to touch the software again once its installed.

[kirashi]

Should I get the Asus GTX 960 or the MSI GTX 960?

 

I know MSI has the Twin Frozr 5 but Asus has fully automated assembly so I know some strange Chinese man won't screw up the assembly. What other qualities are there in the two card brands that may make one better than the other.

 

Why is this even a question? There's no contest. The MSI GTX 960 TwinFrozr is sexy red and black. Done. Over with. Next. Time to roll this train out of the station. Your boat sailed hours ago. OK OK, enough of that.

 

 

Seriously speaking though, MSI and ASUS make good cards but the Major Difference (reporting for duty) is in the cooling and extra software. I've always loved the way MSI's AfterBurner works for temperatures and overclocking support. But as others have said, MSI's TwinFrozr cooling system is one of the best air coolers on graphics cards since EVGA's reference 8800 GTS series of exhaust-based coolers.

[pckid]

Go for a 750 TI and save up for something better later. Its a fantastic card, its what I'm using now and its absolutely amazing for its price. As long as your  gaming 1080p and not playing anything like BF4 and Crysis 3 on ultra, it'll get the job done.

You could get a r7 370 4gb for under 180.

[Morgan MLGman]

Damn, I was just looking at this stuff, have a hard budget of 180 and was looking at 950's or maybe get a 960 if I can find it on sale. I can't spend even a dollar more than 180. Sad. 

 

In the US.

Here you go my man: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZQ3QVS6/?tag=pcpapi-20

I do recommend gathering 15$ more and going for the 4GB version, it'll last you longer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127913&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

[+Puma+]

Are R9 280X or R9 285 also a lot more expensive than 960's at your location?

R9 390/R9 290X are the best for their price, maybe consider going that route? It's a much safer bet. You shouldn't "prefer" an Nvidia card based on the name of the brand, if you're not going to be using any of the Nvidia-specific features, you shouldn't go for a worse GPU just cause it's called Nvidia

I have no idea where you got the idea that I'm going Nvidia because of its brand name,and I have seen that same exact thing said many other times before where it also came out of nowhere. Where I live(U.S.) the R9 280 costs EXACTLY the same as a 960 and I have a $460 Budget for graphics, and two 960's in SLI will give me more performance than a 390. If my budget was around $330, the R9 390 would be a much better option than a 960, but, my budget is $460, not $330. I am not using 280 because its getting old, one of the hottest cards on the market, and isn't very power-efficient. Its the same deal with AMD processors versus Intel ones. AMD still gives you just as much raw-performance as Intel, but Intel's premium includes a lower heat output and more efficient, and with that comes longevity. And heat output does become a concern when you have 2 or more cards as well as power consumption, and the 960 handles both things exceedingly well.

[Morgan MLGman]

I have no idea where you got the idea that I'm going Nvidia because of its brand name,and I have seen that same exact thing said many other times before where it also came out of nowhere. Where I live(U.S.) the R9 280 costs EXACTLY the same as a 960 and I have a $460 Budget for graphics, and two 960's in SLI will give me more performance than a 390. If my budget was around $330, the R9 390 would be a much better option than a 960, but, my budget is $460, not $330. I am not using 280 because its getting old, one of the hottest cards on the market, and isn't very power-efficient. Its the same deal with AMD processors versus Intel ones. AMD still gives you just as much raw-performance as Intel, but Intel's premium includes a lower heat output and more efficient, and with that comes longevity. And heat output does become a concern when you have 2 or more cards as well as power consumption, and the 960 handles both things exceedingly well.

For around 380$, you can get two 4GB R9 380's. It is much better than two 960's. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100384nt4goc2l The best 380 4GB from the best AMD GPU brand - 189,99$ each.

Also, for 460$ you can get a GTX 980. GTX 980 > GTX 960 SLI. R9 390X is also an option.

For 480$ you can actually get two R9 290's in the US which beat the single 980: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NUKISTW/?tag=pcpapi-20

Power-efficiency and heat output have nothing to do with "longevity", I've had a GTX 260, GTX 660 both from Nvidia die on me below 3 years mark without any overclocking applied.

R9 380 is 15% more powerful than a GTX 960. It costs EXACTLY the same or even less (4GB versions). If you willingly want to buy a GTX 960 knowing that you get 15% less performance for the same price, then go for it, I'm outta here ^^

[Boss1295]

Here you go my man: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZQ3QVS6/?tag=pcpapi-20

I do recommend gathering 15$ more and going for the 4GB version, it'll last you longer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127913&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Thanks Mr. Freeman MLG Sir, I'm debating if I should wait around for Cyber Monday or Black Friday, reason I'm looking to upgrade is that I get screen tearing doing things like watching TV and youtube, and just got a new monitor for a great deal (new and old are 1920X1080p), and I figured my old 7770 wont be able to run them both. 

 

Suggestions?

[Morgan MLGman]

Thanks Mr. Freeman MLG Sir, I'm debating if I should wait around for Cyber Monday or Black Friday, reason I'm looking to upgrade is that I get screen tearing doing things like watching TV and youtube, and just got a new monitor for a great deal (new and old are 1920X1080p), and I figured my old 7770 wont be able to run them both. 

 

Suggestions?

If you could find a good deal on a Radeon R9 290, you should get it, it's the best card on the market right now as far as price/performance ratio goes.

If it's too expensive or there won't be any decent deals on it, just hunt for a Radeon R9 380 4GB version (Preferably Sapphire, MSI or XFX), I'm convinced you can get that under 180$ price point on a good deal, considering they're around 15$ over your current budget as for today Good luck GPU-hunting!

P.S. Make sure your Power Supply is appropriate for your GPU.

[+Puma+]

Damn, I was just looking at this stuff, have a hard budget of 180 and was looking at 950's or maybe get a 960 if I can find it on sale. I can't spend even a dollar more than 180. Sad. 

 

In the US.

The thing is that your just NOT going to have any issues with the GTX 750 TI, you just won't.

If you don't have a powerful PSU, AMD cards will start to do some unwanted things. If you go for AMD just make sure you have necessary case cooling and a powerful PSU and you'll be good.

[+Puma+]

For around 380$, you can get two 4GB R9 380's. It is much better than two 960's. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100384nt4goc2l The best 380 4GB from the best AMD GPU brand - 189,99$ each.

Also, for 460$ you can get a GTX 980. GTX 980 > GTX 960 SLI. R9 390X is also an option.

For 480$ you can actually get two R9 290's in the US which beat the single 980: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NUKISTW/?tag=pcpapi-20

Power-efficiency and heat output have nothing to do with "longevity", I've had a GTX 260, GTX 660 both from Nvidia die on me below 3 years mark without any overclocking applied.

R9 380 is 15% more powerful than a GTX 960. It costs EXACTLY the same or even less (4GB versions). If you willingly want to buy a GTX 960 knowing that you get 15% less performance for the same price, then go for it, I'm outta here ^^

AS I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES NOW, I WILL GET THE TWO GTX 960'S OVER THE SUGGESTED AMD CARDS BECAUSE THEY PRODUCE A FRACTION OF THE HEAT(WHICH DOES INCREASE LONGEVITY OF THE PARTS ON THE CARD) AND ITS ALSO TAKES A FRACTION OF THE POWER, AND THE PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCE ISN'T AS HUGE AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE. I DO NOT HAVE A TIGHT BUDGET AND THE PREMIUM IS WORTH IT TO ME. AND ONCE AGAIN THE NVIDIA MICRO-ARCHITECTURE IS MUCH, MUCH NEWER. I DO NOT WISH TO HAVE TO BUY A NEW PSU, CASE, AND FANS JUST TO ACCOMMODATE A GPU, IT IS NOT WORTH IT TO ME. THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL REPEAT MYSELF!

[Boss1295]

The thing is that your just NOT going to have any issues with the GTX 750 TI, you just won't.

If you don't have a powerful PSU, AMD cards will start to do some unwanted things. If you go for AMD just make sure you have necessary case cooling and a powerful PSU and you'll be good.

I've got a 550W PSU (albeit old) and a well overcooled case (Made in the day where 8 fans with a shitton of lights was a thing), probably only need 1 fan tbh. Those are not a huge problem. I was originally looking at a 750 Ti, but managed to scrounge up an extra 60 bucks (got 30 from my brother actually) over my 120 and was thinking maybe an upgrade over a 750 would be worthwhile. 

 

 

If you could find a good deal on a Radeon R9 290, you should get it, it's the best card on the market right now as far as price/performance ratio goes.

If it's too expensive or there won't be any decent deals on it, just hunt for a Radeon R9 380 4GB version (Preferably Sapphire, MSI or XFX), I'm convinced you can get that under 180$ price point on a good deal, considering they're around 15$ over your current budget as for today Good luck GPU-hunting!

P.S. Make sure your Power Supply is appropriate for your GPU.

 

I was originally looking at Nvida cards, but it seems that at this pricepoint AMD's got everything in the bag. Might have to go over to the red team for a season O_O. And just to confirm (always nice to have someone who already knows before you start your research all over again )  290 > 380, or so it seems. Might still go with the 750 Ti and get a keyboard or something, especially because it seems the 750 Ti is so recommended. 

 

I know it might be a while, but if any of you find anything (or have an old card you wanna bro deal me on ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ) Let me know. Or if you have any other suggestions.....

[+Puma+]

I've got a 550W PSU (albeit old) and a well overcooled case (Made in the day where 8 fans with a shitton of lights was a thing), probably only need 1 fan tbh. Those are not a huge problem. I was originally looking at a 750 Ti, but managed to scrounge up an extra 60 bucks (got 30 from my brother actually) over my 120 and was thinking maybe an upgrade over a 750 would be worthwhile. 

 

 

 

I was originally looking at Nvida cards, but it seems that at this pricepoint AMD's got everything in the bag. Might have to go over to the red team for a season O_O. And just to confirm (always nice to have someone who already knows before you start your research all over again )  290 > 380, or so it seems. Might still go with the 750 Ti and get a keyboard or something, especially because it seems the 750 Ti is so recommended. 

 

I know it might be a while, but if any of you find anything (or have an old card you wanna bro deal me on ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ) Let me know. Or if you have any other suggestions.....

If you have power and heat-dissipation requirements and an extra $60, then AMD is the best option. I still think if your willing to upgrade in the future, going for an entry level card like the 750 TI is a solid option.