fed up with amd

[russko]

hiya guys, since fallout 4 has just been released and will not work, its the straw that broke the camels back, my current rig consists of r9 290 xfire, 16gb ram and a 8350 i seem to have bad performance in most games and get the occasional freezing and general annoyances, because my monitors freesync and because i don't think AMD graphics cards are bad in part, i wont be changing those but i have come to the conclusion shit or bust and have decided to change my cpu to intel, i dont want to spend too much because i have thrown money at this build and and quite frankly sick of it. so my question i5 4690k and an asus maximus v11 hero? or can i do better for the money. Before people tell me dont bother, i am at my wits end i have tried everything to get my performance in multiple games up (fallout 4, gta, mad max until i changed the power options to max) ive tried drivers, ive tried fresh installs, ive tried overclocking the cpu it just wont. It has a h100i and the 8350 will become unstable over 4.2ghz. by bad performance in games i means lower than intel cpu fps, i mean massive fps drops for no good reason, my gta on mainly max settings runs around 40fps with dips to 30 and it doesnt matter if i change the settings to low it has the same performance, by this rant/question im sure you can tell im just about ready to throw the towel in.

 

cheers for any responses and help, i really do wanna be part of the pc master race lol but the effort and stress is too much. thank you

 

[PlayStation 2]

To be completely honest, why did you get an 8350 and a 390 together. That's your problem. Get a 4690K or 6600K, and keep the 290s.

[Memories4K]

Oh boy, wait until App gets here

[OAcesync]

AMD is good for GPUs but definitely not CPUs it's 3 years old so what can you expect, just upgrade to Intel

[The Official Czex]

What @Dan Castellaneta said. Also, AMD drivers for FO4 are absolute shit right now. I'd wait a month to see how they turn out, first.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

 

You sure?

[Venomz1337]

pc master race lol but the effort and stress is too much. thank you

 

Effort and stress?

[Fate]

 

You sure?

That site doesn't seem to be very reliable. 

More on this thread: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/482664-is-it-time-to-stop-discouraging-use-of-the-fx-8350/page-3

 

 

 

 

See what I mean?

 

And then look at this;

 

One core maxed out. How the hell can the 5960X be higher.

 

I'm not saying with absolute confidence either is right. But the fact they contradict proves that you can't just blindly go by one and stick with it.

[russko]

To be completely honest, why did you get an 8350 and a 390 together. That's your problem. Get a 4690K or 6600K, and keep the 290s.

390? i will be keeping the 290s

[79wjd]

 

and an asus maximus v11 hero? or can i do better for the money. 

 

 

Literally any other z97 board would be better for the money. ROG boards are overpriced to hell and back. 

 

Anything from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Asrock that supports Crossfire (which is most Z97 boards) is fine. 

 

 

But regardless, your issue may lie elsewhre (issues with Crossfire maybe, an 8350 should still be able to handle most games decently). 

[PlayStation 2]

390? i will be keeping the 290s

rip, misspelled

[russko]

 

Effort and stress?

spending alot of money to play games to find out it runs like a sack of shite is very stressful, to me anyway

 

 

Literally any other z97 board would be better for the money. ROG boards are overpriced to hell and back.

 

Anything from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Asrock that supports Crossfire (which is most Z97 boards) is fine.

anything red/black really has a msi 970 gaming currently it fits the build

[Venomz1337]

spending  alot of money to play games to find out it runs like a sack of shite is very stressful, to me anyway

 

That's not stress, that's just you not doing your research before hand. Anyhow, I don't understand how you're struggling with that setup.

[russko]

 

You sure?

ive seen alot of other bench tests that claim the complete opposite, il be open minded but from own experience so far

 

 

That's not stress, that's just you not doing your research before hand. Anyhow, I don't understand how you're struggling with that setup.

ive had the 8350 for about a year now and il admit, i didnt know alot about computers and was instructed by a friend (at the time i thought he knew alot about pcs) to go with that amd cpu?gpu combo

[79wjd]

anything red/black really has a msi 970 gaming currently it fits the build

Just look up Z97 boards, and go with whichever one you want; it all depends on regional pricing. 

[Nena Trinity]

Dude there is a AMD driver issue in Fallout 4 look it up!

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

 

That site doesn't seem to be very reliable. 

More on this thread: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/482664-is-it-time-to-stop-discouraging-use-of-the-fx-8350/page-3

 

Look at the settings used. They're different. I ain't saying the FX is stronger. Simply asking OP to consider carefully. 

[Majestic]

Think i know what the problem with GameGPU is, asside from the fact their benchmarkrun is like 5 seconds. They're testing 720p and low settings. 

Now the 720P bit isn't an issue, but the low settings are. It means a significant lack of drawcalls that don't put the stress on the API threads.

 

The PClab.pl tests ultra 1080p, which gives a much more accurate representation.

 

1080p, with current high-end cards like the titan X is the "new 720p" for CPU benchmarks. But you NEED to run ultra settings for max. drawcalls.

 

THAT

 

...or they're just being plain disingenuous. Because those results make no goddamn sense. And neither do their GPU results. Ultra settings on AMD is gimped as hell at the moment due to driver issues (CPU overhead). 960 is outperforming the 380 by miles, simply due to the fact it's not CPU bottlenecking.

[Theminecraftaddict555]

Amd gpu drivers are bad for fallout 4 .....BTW how many threads did we see that talked about how alot of amd cards are not working for fallout 4?

 

Anyway, the cpu could also be a factor like others said

[don_svetlio]

Amd gpu drivers are bad for fallout 4 .....BTW how many threads did we see that talked about how alot of amd cards are not working for fallout 4?

 

Anyway, the cpu could also be a factor like others said

AMD driver for FO4 isn't out yet... how can something that is yet to be released be bad? Elaborated

Fallout 4 depends quite a bit on RAM speed and the wonky parts of the engine - CF or SLI are not supported so that's one of your issues. The next is probably the maxed shadows. - lower them to medium and also disable godrays (Gameworks, yay!)

[Theminecraftaddict555]

AMD driver for FO4 isn't out yet... how can something that is yet to be released be bad? Elaborated

Fallout 4 depends quite a bit on RAM speed and the wonky parts of the engine - CF or SLI are not supported so that's one of your issues. The next is probably the maxed shadows. - lower them to medium and also disable godrays (Gameworks, yay!)

Yes thanks for the correction, what I should have said is that AMD cards are running bad on fallout 4 due to the lack of driver support or release of amd drivers

[don_svetlio]

Yes thanks for the correction, what I should have said is that AMD cards are running bad on fallout 4 due to the lack of driver support or release of amd drivers

Because the game is sponsored by Nvidia and uses Gameworks - Gameworks and AMD are mutually exclusives. Just to correct you again

[Theminecraftaddict555]

Because the game is sponsored by Nvidia and uses Gameworks - Gameworks and AMD are mutually exclusives. Just to correct you again

I stand corrected....So fallout 4 seems to support nvidia compared to amd? interesting

[don_svetlio]

I stand corrected....So fallout 4 seems to support nvidia compared to amd? interesting

Didn't the green logo and news that it has Gameworks tip you off?

It's an Nvidia game - the same way Tomb Raider was an AMD title and Nvidia took a week or two to fix their shit and make Tress FX work properly. Difference is, even my 860M can run Tress FX whereas my 280 couldn't run Gameworks

[Theminecraftaddict555]

Didn't the green logo and news that it has Gameworks tip you off?

It's an Nvidia game - the same way Tomb Raider was an AMD title and Nvidia took a week or two to fix their shit and make Tress FX work properly. Difference is, even my 860M can run Tress FX whereas my 280 couldn't run Gameworks

Hopefully amd will do the same within a week or two....