Alternative to running a cable?

[KingKeith55]

I am currently using Wifi because I have no other option really (Can't run a cable from the basement to the main floor's router)

 

I want to know if there is any way to possibly get better speeds or if there's an alternative to running a cable.

 

Please. Just don't suggest "hurr run a cable". It's annoying, I already said it's not an option. Sorry, but it always happens when I ask something.

 

I use a PCI Wifi card if you're wondering.

 

 

[LionWaffles]

Possibly buy another router and put it into extension mode.

[mosin40]

I am currently using Wifi because I have no other option really (Can't run a cable from the basement to the main floor's router)

 

I want to know if there is any way to possibly get better speeds or if there's an alternative to running a cable.

 

Please. Just don't suggest "hurr run a cable". It's annoying, I already said it's not an option. Sorry, but it always happens when I ask something.

 

I use a PCI Wifi card if you're wondering.

Ummm, PowerLine??

[jacob5426]

run a cable...

Nah just  buy a wifi booster see how that helps

[KingKeith55]

Ummm, PowerLine??

What do you mean Power line?...

[TheKDub]

I am currently using Wifi because I have no other option really (Can't run a cable from the basement to the main floor's router)

 

I want to know if there is any way to possibly get better speeds or if there's an alternative to running a cable.

 

Please. Just don't suggest "hurr run a cable". It's annoying, I already said it's not an option. Sorry, but it always happens when I ask something.

 

I use a PCI Wifi card if you're wondering.

 

Powerline Ethernet?

 

It uses the electrical lines of your home like an ethernet cable, all you've got to do is plug the two adapter thingies in, sync them or whatever, plug the ethernet cables in, and you're good to go. (Note: Old wiring may cause issues)

[mosin40]

What do you mean Power line?...

 

 

It uses the electrical lines of your home like an ethernet cable, all you've got to do is plug the two adapter thingies in, sync them or whatever, plug the ethernet cables in, and you're good to go. (Note: Old wiring may cause issues)

This^

And by far is the best solution rather than runing a freaking long cable across all your house

[TheKDub]

This^

And by far is the best solution rather than runing a freaking long cable across all your house

 

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I'd know, I ran a freaking long cable across my house (Modem is on one side of the house on the main floor, router is in the middle of the house on the upper floor, my room is on the far side of the house on the upper floor... Got a I think it was 50 foot cable going from the modem to the router, just basically taped to the ceiling, and then another 50-75 foot ethernet cable running into my room from the router)

[Jacktastic-Mofo]

Powerline Ethernet?

 

It uses the electrical lines of your home like an ethernet cable, all you've got to do is plug the two adapter thingies in, sync them or whatever, plug the ethernet cables in, and you're good to go. (Note: Old wiring may cause issues)

I'm pretty sure the two sockets have to also be on the same breaker in order for it to work.

[KingKeith55]

Well the electrical in my house was done in around 1955.

 

But some of it (Including the wiring where I am in the basement) was done roughly 10 years ago.

 

Would this be considered... Too old?

[TheKDub]

I'm pretty sure the two sockets have to also be on the same breaker in order for it to work.

 

Nope, as long as neither of the breakers are tripped it should be fine.

[mosin40]

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I'd know, I ran a freaking long cable across my house (Modem is on one side of the house on the main floor, router is in the middle of the house on the upper floor, my room is on the far side of the house on the upper floor... Got a I think it was 50 foot cable going from the modem to the router, just basically taped to the ceiling, and then another 50-75 foot ethernet cable running into my room from the router)

Aw gwad! That've must look awful sir... 

[TheKDub]

Aw gwad! That've must look awful sir... 

 

It does, once I've got my own house, I'll be running cables properly  (Not worth the effort in my parent's house, and they don't really care about the cable going across the ceiling )

[mosin40]

It does, once I've got my own house, I'll be running cables properly  (Not worth the effort in my parent's house, and they don't really care about the cable going across the ceiling )

haha, nice, i guess when i will move to a new house (will probably be during march) i will route the Ethernet cables to avoid taping all the cables on the ceiling

[brwainer]

I'm pretty sure the two sockets have to also be on the same breaker in order for it to work.

They don't have to be on the same breaker, they have to be on the same phase of the same breaker panel. And that only really applied to the old ones, the AV2 standard brought about MIMO using the ground wires as a second connection path, and in most houses all ground wires are connected to the same ground and therefore connected together. However if the two units are on the opposite phases and can only connect by the ground wire, you get limited to about 40-50Mbps even on the best wiring with units rated for 1200Mbps.

[KingKeith55]

All I really care about is ping and rubberbanding, my speeds are only 30 megabits per second anyway.

[Sir Asvald]

I am currently using Wifi because I have no other option really (Can't run a cable from the basement to the main floor's router)

I want to know if there is any way to possibly get better speeds or if there's an alternative to running a cable.

Please. Just don't suggest "hurr run a cable". It's annoying, I already said it's not an option. Sorry, but it always happens when I ask something.

I use a PCI Wifi card if you're wondering.

Poweline adapter?

[mineblaster]

have you tried adjusting your antennas as wifi produces a donut shaped coverage so vertical coverege is not optamal 

 

so if you turn your antennas 90 degrees sideways on you pc and some on your router if possible and you may see improvement 

 

if you need more improvement i would  recommend directional antennas you can flat panel antennas that connect using RP-sma connectors 

 

and set it up as a point to point wireless

 

http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/cat-5067_TL-ANT2414A.html

 

otherwise theres everyone else suggestion of powerline adapters there are cheap kits($30) or see if you can borrow some to test before getting your own

 

a 10/100 kit will covered general internet use unless your super ballin and have badass internet or maybe a faster kit if you do alot of file sharing

 

 hope it helps

[KingKeith55]

have you tried adjusting your antennas as wifi produces a donut shaped coverage so vertical coverege is not optamal 

 

so if you turn your antennas 90 degrees sideways on you pc and some on your router if possible and you may see improvement 

 

if you need more improvement i would  recommend directional antennas you can flat panel antennas that connect using RP-sma connectors 

 

and set it up as a point to point wireless

 

http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/cat-5067_TL-ANT2414A.html

 

otherwise theres everyone else suggestion of powerline adapters there are cheap kits($30) or see if you can borrow some to test before getting your own

 

a 10/100 kit will covered general internet use unless your super ballin and have badass internet or maybe a faster kit if you do alot of file sharing

 

 hope it helps

The router is in a really crappy spot, so is my PC.

 

That could be the reason why.

 

But I think it could be the router putting me on the wrong band, since I can run on the 5Ghz band when im down here and I get proper speeds (with like 5 megabits loss).

 

But after awhile it swaps me to the slow 2.4 Ghz band, and I get like 5 megabits per second.

 

Or it's something else. Don't know.

[baxtmann]

power line would be your best bet

[ValkyrieX]

Powerline uses your electrical sockets in your house instead of network cable, but despite what your Electrical Company tells you about the signals stopping at your Electrical Meter outside, they are dead wrong.  Your neighbors can access your network as well.   Video included:

 

I'm guessing that there is no way to use a 'hammer drill' or some kind of power tool to drill a small 3/4" hole from the basement to a closet, then run the wire up the closet into the attic or something to get wires to all locations in the house?   After fastening the wires tightly with zip ties and a few nails or strap fasteners, you can use sealant (silicone or otherwise) to close up the remainder of the hole if unused.

 

The 1st absolute best solution is wired, your 2nd best is wireless, I would not even consider Powerline.

 

 

 

Linus @ NCIX: (Wireless vs Wired vs Powerline)

 

Powerline Network: SECURITY FLAW - DANGER

[mineblaster]

The router is in a really crappy spot, so is my PC.

 

That could be the reason why.

 

But I think it could be the router putting me on the wrong band, since I can run on the 5Ghz band when im down here and I get proper speeds (with like 5 megabits loss).

 

But after awhile it swaps me to the slow 2.4 Ghz band, and I get like 5 megabits per second.

 

Or it's something else. Don't know.

 

the 2.4GHz is a crowed band and is used by allot devices other than wifi you can improve by changing in between the channels on the on the 2.4GHz frequency so they don't overlap with other routers that are nearby

 

5GHz is less used and has more channels but dose not reach as far 2.4 GHz 

 

also your surroundings affect your wireless like.solid materials  (bricks and steel)  

 

this may help on your wireless tweaking

 

http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5936-inssider.html

[KingKeith55]

Yeah everyone on my street has wifi... no joke.

 

And it seems most of them use the 2.4 GHz band. When I swap over to 5 GHz there is a lot better speeds.

[Nuluvius]

Powerline uses your electrical sockets in your house instead of network cable, but despite what your Electrical Company tells you about the signals stopping at your Electrical Meter outside, they are dead wrong.  Your neighbors can access your network as well. 

 

Yes it is true in some cases however that's why modern powerline/home plugs feature AES encryption (some offer 256 bit). Agreed it's unsettling that one's LAN is available to an outsider however 256 bit AES is currently almost impossible to break - certainly way beyond anything an average Joe would have access to in any event.

 

Same sentiment regarding wireless signals to be fare.

[ValkyrieX]

Yes it is true in some cases however that's why modern powerline/home plugs feature AES encryption (some offer 256 bit). Agreed it's unsettling that one's LAN is available to an outsider however 256 bit AES is currently almost impossible to break - certainly way beyond anything an average Joe would have access to in any event.

 

Same sentiment regarding wireless signals to be fare.

 

That only protects data that you send & recieve on your network?

 

What about if you have file sharing on your C:\ on multiple computers?

 

I was not aware they recently added or already had AES encryption. 

 

In the video I linked (earlier post), the neighbor was able to view the folders & files, just like it was his own computer.

 

I am assuming that he could copy them to his own computer and view them, I don't know if he had all permissions tho.