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the 390X is a 290X refresh

 

the 390 is the 290 refresh

 

if you want best performance for the budget def the 390/X

 

290X if you can find for cheap

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If you want 'future proof' I'd go with the 980 Ti. It'll last 2-3 years easily at max settings 1080p. 

 

 

Go with AMD, nVidia has terrible dx12 performance.

 

That's based on ONE pre-alpha game which was developed specifically for AMD...

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If you want 'future proof' I'd go with the 980 Ti. It'll last 2-3 years easily at max settings 1080p. 

 

 

 

That's based on ONE pre-alpha game which was developed specifically for AMD...

 

980Ti is made for 1440P/4K gaming

 

overkill for 1080P imo

 

 

Go with AMD, nVidia has terrible dx12 performance.

DX12 is supported for both AMD and nVidia

 

only specific api like Mantle is from AMD and PhysX from nVidia

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980Ti is made for 1440P/4K gaming

 

overkill for 1080P imo

 

 

DX12 is supported for both AMD and nVidia

 

only specific api like Mantle is from AMD and PhysX from nVidia

Actually mrzany is right, a true future proof is over kill now, it has to me as games WILL get harder to push, the PROBLEM is figuring out when 1080p wont be the norm anymore, that the norm is 1440p or 4k.... then at that point the 980ti will still work good, just wont be 60fps on 4k, but still playable

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Actually mrzany is right, a true future proof is over kill now, it has to me as games WILL get harder to push, the PROBLEM is figuring out when 1080p wont be the norm anymore, that the norm is 1440p or 4k.... then at that point the 980ti will still work good, just wont be 60fps on 4k, but still playable

well it will take quite a while before we need 1440P as a norm

 

looking at the steam survey

 

most gamers still game at 1080P

 

only a few percent game at 4K

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well it will take quite a while before we need 1440P as a norm

 

looking at the steam survey

 

most gamers still game at 1080P

 

only a few percent game at 4K

yea i know its gonna be awhile especially u til 4k becomes the norm for family tvs. But in 3 years... in tech time thats alot.
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Go with AMD, nVidia has terrible dx12 performance.

Stop spreading bullshit. Single alpha DX12 test doesn't show anything.

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980Ti is made for 1440P/4K gaming

 

overkill for 1080P imo

 

 

DX12 is supported for both AMD and nVidia

 

only specific api like Mantle is from AMD and PhysX from nVidia

I wouldn't really say that its overkill. I for example would like to be able to max out my games and get 144+ fps which even the 980ti can't achieve at 1080p. No card is really overkill, I realize that you said IMO but na mate. It all depends on what you want. :l

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Go with AMD, nVidia has terrible dx12 performance.

Im glad you dont believe every Internet BS.   :rolleyes:

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That's based on ONE pre-alpha game which was developed specifically for AMD...

 

DX12 is supported for both AMD and nVidia

 

only specific api like Mantle is from AMD and PhysX from nVidia

 

Stop spreading bullshit. Single alpha DX12 test doesn't show anything.

 

Im glad you dont believe every Internet BS.   :rolleyes:

 

Look guys, it's not like I just believe every piece of rumor nonsense without at least doing a little investigation myself.

 

Here you go... https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/3j1916/get_your_popcorn_ready_nv_gpus_do_not_support/

 

If you want to try to refute my position then it would be helpful to at least provide some evidence...

 

Lastly, even if there is no guarantee that it will have much of an affect on future DX12 games, given both cards are equal otherwise, I would sleep much better at night knowing that I chose the card that does not have any evidence or benchmarks showing it performs WORSE with DX12 enabled, even if maybe those don't actually prove to be true in real world scenarios.

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Look guys, it's not like I just believe every piece of rumor nonsense without at least doing a little investigation myself.

 

Here you go... https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/3j1916/get_your_popcorn_ready_nv_gpus_do_not_support/

 

If you want to try to refute my position then it would be helpful to at least provide some evidence...

 

Lastly, even if there is no guarantee that it will have much of an affect on future DX12 games, given both cards are equal otherwise, I would sleep much better at night knowing that I chose the card that does not have any evidence or benchmarks showing it performs WORSE with DX12 enabled, even if maybe those don't actually prove to be true in real world scenarios.

 

Ok? AMD's r9 Fury X (same price as the 980 Ti) matches it in DX12. In DX11, the 980 Ti blows away the Fury X. Tell me again why you'd buy the Fury X over the 980 Ti when it has no discernible difference in DX12 and it performs worse in DX11...

 

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Ok? AMD's r9 Fury X (same price as the 980 Ti) matches it in DX12. In DX11, the 980 Ti blows away the Fury X. Tell me again why you'd buy the Fury X over the 980 Ti when it has no discernible difference in DX12 and it performs worse in DX11...

 

The Fury X and 980ti aren't even mentioned in the OP, probably due to being total overkill at 1080p.

 

Here's a benchmark showing the gtx 980 getting destroyed by the 390x with dx12 enabled.

 

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The Fury X and 980ti aren't even mentioned in the OP, probably due to being total overkill at 1080p.

 

Here's a benchmark showing the gtx 980 getting destroyed by the 390x with dx12 enabled.

 

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You need to keep in mind that Ashes was in a pre-alpha state when these tests came out and that one game cannot accurately predict how all cards will perform with DX12.

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You need to keep in mind that Ashes was in a pre-alpha state when these tests came out and that one game cannot accurately predict how all cards will perform with DX12.

there are Fable Legends benchmarks aviable, they show even more gap between GM204 and Hawaii chips.

A 200$ cheaper R9 390 completely obliderates a 980 by about 5%~10%,

did I mention the card is almost 200$ cheaper?

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there are Fable Legends benchmarks aviable, they show even more gap between GM204 and Hawaii chips.

A 200$ cheaper R9 390 completely obliderates a 980 by about 5%~10%,

did I mention the card is almost 200$ cheaper?

I have a 980 Ti that I snagged for $500, I couldn't care less about the 980 as it's a fiscally stupid card to buy in terms of price to Performance right now.

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I have a 980 Ti that I snagged for $500, I couldn't care less about the 980 as it's a fiscally stupid card to buy in terms of price to Performance right now.

Good for you,

for 500$ that is amazing!

personally I feel 650$ is a stupid pricepoint and I cannot justify a single card costing that much, because if you lookt a it in perspective - for 650$ you can get a full X99 system with motherboard, a six core cpu and two couples of ddr4 sticks.

I'd be okay with it if all GPU prices were shifted one Tier down - that would be a fair price.

 

Imho, the only reason a 650$ cards exist is because nVidia is so arrogant and think of themselves so much that they can release a "Titan" card fo 1000$ which is absolutely stupid.

I wouldn't say Fury X is 980ti competitor, I'd say Fury (non-X) is the 980ti competitor, because their performance in 4K is pretty close for 15% cheaper

especially if you crossfire the two Fury's and put against two 980ti SLI, there are graphs that show them both trading blows

 

 

Anyhow... this topic was Hawaii Vs. GM204 and in this case a 390X is better buy as it's cheaper, performs equally in current titles on DX11 and shows amazing results in upcomming DX12 benchmarks, that mind you are based on actual game engines comming out this quarter

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Going to have to give the nod to 390x here.Will last a good while.So will 970/980

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