Fx 8300

[Niruvius]

Hi i would like to know opinions of more experienced members of this forum what are your opinions on fx 8300, how far behind it is compared to i3 and i5 i know it is worse in single core performance and fall flat on its face in games that use 1-2 cores and work fine in games that use 4 (still not better than i5). But what do you think how will it scale into future will it still be ok chip if in lets say 2017 become standard that games scale up to 6 and in 2018-2019 if 8 core become fine for games? Is there any game you would say is unplayable if im willing to drop few things down to mid and in future im willing to play games at mid settings for next 3-5 years with system that would use fx 8300?

[Zayzo]

By then it'll be awful. I doubt it. Why not just upgrade in a year or two when AMD actually(hopefully) releases something useful. Unless you're cool with intel. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

By then it'll be awful.

^^ it's already seriously outdated technology and architecture wise, it was outdated at launch, and it will be performing a lot worse by 2017 or 2018 you can be 100% sure about that.

 

Get yourself an i5-4460 and a cheap H97 motherboard and use the provided CPU heatsink, this will be flatout better than an overcocked FX in games, will be more efficient and will end up being cheaper once you've factored in proper 8 phase board for overclocking and aftermarket CPU cooling solution for the thing.

[theereal]

It won't get better in the future If you intend to game, its really simple, get something from Intel.

[Zayzo]

It won't get better in the future If you intend to game, its really simple, get something from Intel.

RIght now, yes, this is true. We can't see the future though. 

[Heizu]

Even if gaming does adopt more cores in the future this chip will still not be up to the task. Games are mostly 1-2 core. 4 cores will be the next step for at least 5 years once its adopted IMO. By that time that 4+ core games are adopted, processing performance (hopefully) will be leaps ahead of what we have currently

[Niruvius]

Fx 8300 if oc will be that much below i5 4460? Asking cos for price difference in croatia of i5 4690k/6600k and decent mobo is huge (around price difference of r9 270x and r9 390) and that is what my budget can take max (in case of ddr4 ram on skylake i have to skimp somewhere). Would you say my curent a4 5300 would be fine while waiting zen).

(Skylake atm is far to expensive for me any only gpu manufacturer im willing to buy from is sapphire so no gtx 970 or anything other than sapphire r9 390)

[HumbleMobo]

Hi i would like to know opinions of more experienced members of this forum what are your opinions on fx 8300, how far behind it is compared to i3 and i5 i know it is worse in single core performance and fall flat on its face in games that use 1-2 cores and work fine in games that use 4 (still not better than i5). But what do you think how will it scale into future will it still be ok chip if in lets say 2017 become standard that games scale up to 6 and in 2018-2019 if 8 core become fine for games? Is there any game you would say is unplayable if im willing to drop few things down to mid and in future im willing to play games at mid settings for next 3-5 years with system that would use fx 8300?

An intel pentium could kill this for crying out loud it sucks!  Wait for AMD Zen architecture or get an i3

[HumbleMobo]

Fx 8300 if oc will be that much below i5 4460? Asking cos for price difference in croatia of i5 4690k/6600k and decent mobo is huge (around price difference of r9 270x and r9 390) and that is what my budget can take max (in case of ddr4 ram on skylake i have to skimp somewhere). Would you say my curent a4 5300 would be fine while waiting zen).

(Skylake atm is far to expensive for me any only gpu manufacturer im willing to buy from is sapphire so no gtx 970 or anything other than sapphire r9 390)

skylake can do ddr3 and ddr4 btw

[i_build_nanosuits]

Fx 8300 if oc will be that much below i5 4460? Asking cos for price difference in croatia of i5 4690k/6600k and decent mobo is huge (around price difference of r9 270x and r9 390) and that is what my budget can take max (in case of ddr4 ram on skylake i have to skimp somewhere). Would you say my curent a4 5300 would be fine while waiting zen).

(Skylake atm is far to expensive for me any only gpu manufacturer im willing to buy from is sapphire so no gtx 970 or anything other than sapphire r9 390)

For gaming, yes the i5-4460 is significantly better...highly overclocked the FX still fall behind some in many titles...but again you won't overclock this monster dinausor on a cheap 4 phase board you need at least a good quality 6+2 or 8+2 power phase motherboard and you also need good cooling...all these things adds-up and in the end an overclocking ready platform for AM3+ will cost the same or more.

and no, your current CPU is FAR from adequate...even the FX-8300 overclocked is not a very good match for GPU as powerful as an R9 390 (i had the FX-8320 clocked at 4.6ghz and it was still limiting the performance of my GTX780in many games), could you afford H97 motherboard, i5-4460, 8GB of cheap DDR3 RAM (re-use what you have maybe? this is not important) along with an R9 390/GTX970...if so i would do that.

 

i would certainly not hold my breath for Zen, AMD would need a 50%+ IPC increase just to match haswell...so it's very unlikely that they will pull anything better than this i5-4460 for gaming...also AMD is near bankrupt right now so yeah...it might never come out to be honest.

[OAcesync]

Fx 8300 if oc will be that much below i5 4460? Asking cos for price difference in croatia of i5 4690k/6600k and decent mobo is huge (around price difference of r9 270x and r9 390) and that is what my budget can take max (in case of ddr4 ram on skylake i have to skimp somewhere). Would you say my curent a4 5300 would be fine while waiting zen).

(Skylake atm is far to expensive for me any only gpu manufacturer im willing to buy from is sapphire so no gtx 970 or anything other than sapphire r9 390)

Depends really in some games a 9370(pre overclocked 8300) will even be on par or worse than a i3. I really would recommend Intel

Benchmarks:http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/401217-more-updated-fx-vs-intel-for-gaming/

[Niruvius]

If amd in at bankrupt we should stack our self with cpus as intel might sky rock cpus in future and where did you get info that amd is at bankrupt?

[Zayzo]

If amd in at bankrupt we should stack our self with cpus as intel might sky rock cpus in future and where did you get info that amd is at bankrupt?

Or a new company will buy out AMD and start actually competing with Intel. 

[Niruvius]

Fx 8300 + gigabyte ud3 + evo 212 (in croatia) cost less than i5 4460 and cheapest h97 board (for i5 4690k and cheapest z97 /other than ecs/ i can svap evo for nh-d14 and 8gb ram) but i see your point get i5 4460 and upgrade for i5 8th gen i guess. I need to get whole system as my old pc will be used by my family as dvd player/skype/facebook.

[i_build_nanosuits]

If amd in at bankrupt we should stack our self with cpus as intel might sky rock cpus in future and where did you get info that amd is at bankrupt?

Check their stock worth...

 

AMD as a whole, all divisions included, at present time is worth around 45% less than what they paid to acquire ATI back in 2006...

EDIT: damn i should have clicked the ''5 years'' tab to show you the decline over the past 5 years...it's really not pretty i can't comprehend how such a big company can be in such freefall.

 

Or a new company will buy out AMD and start actually competing with Intel. 

Yes, that is what likely gonna happen.

 

Fx 8300 + gigabyte ud3 + evo 212 (in croatia) cost less than i5 4460 and cheapest h97 board (for i5 4690k and cheapest z97 /other than ecs/ i can svap evo for nh-d14 and 8gb ram) but i see your point get i5 4460 and upgrade for i5 8th gen i guess. I need to get whole system as my old pc will be used by my family as dvd player/skype/facebook.

i5-4460 and cheap H97 board is the way to go if you're on a budget, just get that along with a good GPU and never look back.

That said, AMD need all the help they could get right now, so if you feel like giving them your money for a not so great performer hey it's up to you!

Edited September 14, 2015 by i_build_nanosuits

[Zayzo]

Check their stock worth...

 

AMD as a whole, all divisions included, at present time is worth around 45% less than what they paid to acquire ATI back in 2006...

 

Yes, that is what likely gonna happen.

 

i5-4460 and cheap H97 board is the way to go if you're on a budget, just get that along with a good GPU and never look back.

Hope so. I'm so sick of defaulting to intel for almost everything. 

[juretrn]

Hope so. I'm so sick of defaulting to intel for almost everything. 

I want a new Athlon 64 to kick Intel in its backside! After those, Intel finally got its act together again and made something great again (Conroe)

[monaka25]

          I personally say there isn't much upgradability with AMD, I say get like a i5 6600k, and a z170 mobo, if that is a little too much in price, a i5 with a z97 motherboard will out-perform AMD cpu's(due to architecture). 

[Niruvius]

I5 6600k and chipest z170 is price of fx 8300 gigabyte ud3 intel ssd, 8gb ram and half of psu price in croatia well i5 4690k and i5 6600k cost same in croatia and are around 200hrk (28€) more expensive than fx and mobo so only h mobo and i5 4460 are options. Also i dont plan to upgrade that fx or i5 for next 5 years

[Avalen]

skylake can do ddr3 and ddr4 btw

Only some very few motherboards do DDR3 and most that do have DDR3L which is pretty scarce.

[Nena Trinity]

Mine plays every game I tried at it so far! :3

 

None horribly unplayable except for Saints Row(this is even unplayable on i7-4790K+GTX 980) and when I stress tested it with 3 cheating bots in Grey Goo just for fun! :3

[i_build_nanosuits]

I5 6600k and chipest z170 is price of fx 8300 gigabyte ud3 intel ssd, 8gb ram and half of psu price in croatia well i5 4690k and i5 6600k cost same in croatia and are around 200hrk (28€) more expensive than fx and mobo so only h mobo and i5 4460 are options. Also i dont plan to upgrade that fx or i5 for next 5 years

Do your research, check gaming benchmarks...you'll see even the i5-4430 which is the lowest end core i5 is noticeably faster in games and offer better more consistent minimum framerates across the board than even the FX-9590 which is AMD's finest CPU to date. If you can find ONE benchmark in which an AMD CPU (any of them) beat an intel haswell core i5 in games feel free to link it, i havnt seen one in years of doing this.