which card is the one to take?

[PandaCopyRight]

halp i need haaalp .... (sorry if this kind of topic is too common)
i need a gpu upgrade cause this is dying and i it cant run many games
so the options are from these 2

Saphire R9 380 4GB
: http://www.1shop.lv/sapphire-amd-radeon-r9-380-4gb-11242-07-20g/

Gigabyte GTX 960 4GB 
: http://www.dateks.lv/cenas/videokartes-pci-express/112457_gigabyte_geforce_gtx960_4gb_gddr5_windforce_2x

my psu is a 750w so it can handle any of these cards also heat is not a problem


and the games i plan on playing are
CS: GO
GTAV
Need for Speed (the one to be released)
Watch dogs
Project Cars
Wreckfest
Asseto Corsa
and stuff like this

i personaly would prefer the nvidia one for the geforce experiance software but idk it seems that the amd one gets more fps and im overly confused so iw ant to know wich one has what features that are better then the other one

[Lethal Seraph]

I wouldn't get a 960 but if you can't stretch the budget and get a 970 instead I'll more willing to pick it over the 380.

[sms1202]

380 for the win

[PandaCopyRight]

I wouldn't get a 960 but if you can't stretch the budget and get a 970 instead I'll more willing to pick it over the 380.

i can barely strech the budget to get one of these 2

[PandaCopyRight]

DAMMIIITTT FORGOT TO ADD A POLL!!!!!!  

[PandaCopyRight]

any other opinions? any thing is should consider when buy any one of these 2?

[SteveGrabowski0]

960 easily with a Pentium, a Pentium will get murdered by the DX11 driver overhead in AMD cards.

[SteveGrabowski0]

any other opinions? any thing is should consider when buy any one of these 2?

 

Why do you have a $300 motherboard and a $60 CPU?

[WildCAt]

I recommend R9 380 as it more "fair" than 960.

380 has more texture mapping units, higher floating point perf  and more shading units.

Also, according to the rumors, 380 should perform really well with DX12

[PandaCopyRight]

Why do you have a $300 motherboard and a $60 CPU?

had a plan to build a 2k gaming rig ... and shit went down and had to get a cheap cpu untill i get the money

basecally a long story

also im savin up for an i5 ... so far it seems to be not going so good

[PandaCopyRight]

I recommend R9 380 as it more "fair" than 960.

380 has more texture mapping units, higher floating point perf  and more shading units.

Also, according to the rumors, 380 should perform really well with DX12

so you saying that the 380 will get me more for the money then the 960?

[PandaCopyRight]

960 easily with a Pentium, a Pentium will get murdered by the DX11 driver overhead in AMD cards.

DX11 overhead on amd cards..... explain please?

[SteveGrabowski0]

DX11 overhead on amd cards..... explain please?

 

See this post I made in another thread:

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/436077-evga-geforce-gtx-960-2gb-or-sapphire-radeon-r9-270x-4gb-for-budget-build/?p=5845161

 

Eurogamer.net first found this while reviewing the GTX 960. Google Eurogamer's GTX 960 review to read about the DX11 overhead in AMD's drivers killing performance on an i3 when there is a lot of stuff on screen to draw. If you watch the first video you'll see an area of COD AW where a GTX 750 Ti is thoroughly outperforming a freaking R9 280 when used with an i3-4130 when the much more powerful 280 murders the 750 Ti using an i7-4790k.

 

If you're planning to get an i5 soon don't worry about it, the DX11 overhead in AMD's drivers is a concern with an i3 or lower, but not an i5 or higher. With an i5 I'd take a 380 over a 960.

[don_svetlio]

Oppa 380 Style

[PandaCopyRight]

Oppa 380 Style

lol you made me giggle you get a virtual cookie point

[PandaCopyRight]

See this post I made in another thread:

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/436077-evga-geforce-gtx-960-2gb-or-sapphire-radeon-r9-270x-4gb-for-budget-build/?p=5845161

 

Eurogamer.net first found this while reviewing the GTX 960. Google Eurogamer's GTX 960 review to read about the DX11 overhead in AMD's drivers killing performance on an i3 when there is a lot of stuff on screen to draw. If you watch the first video you'll see an area of COD AW where a GTX 750 Ti is thoroughly outperforming a freaking R9 280 when used with an i3-4130 when the much more powerful 280 murders the 750 Ti using an i7-4790k.

 

If you're planning to get an i5 soon don't worry about it, the DX11 overhead in AMD's drivers is a concern with an i3 or lower, but not an i5 or higher. With an i5 I'd take a 380 over a 960.

holly dammn .. i see what you mean now... that cod aw vid ... the i3 and 280 lost quite a bit of fps in the explosion and when shit was goin down

 

[SteveGrabowski0]

holly dammn .. i see what you mean now... that cod aw vid ... the i3 and 280 lost quite a bit of fps in the explosion and when shit was goin down

 

 

This shows up in a lot of games. Not everything though, for instance BF4 and AC Unity don't show these kind of drops with an i3 and a Radeon in their testing. If you check Digital Foundry's youtube channel you can see more of these kind of comparisons, though you'll have to search a bit since they publish so much youtube content.

[KarateHottie93]

380 for sure

[Curufinwe_wins]

380, unless the 960 is 15+ dollars cheaper.

Also I'd really heavily recommend getting away from that cpu. More and more New games fail to support dual core cpus not to mention that unless overclocked a Pentium can bottleneck even a 750ti at low enough settings.

[PandaCopyRight]

380, unless the 960 is 15+ dollars cheaper.

Also I'd really heavily recommend getting away from that cpu. More and more New games fail to support dual core cpus not to mention that unless overclocked a Pentium can bottleneck even a 750ti at low enough settings.

it is overclocked and im saving up for an i5 my gpu is dying so im getting that 1st

also its the same piice +/- 5 euros

 

This shows up in a lot of games. Not everything though, for instance BF4 and AC Unity don't show these kind of drops with an i3 and a Radeon in their testing. If you check Digital Foundry's youtube channel you can see more of these kind of comparisons, though you'll have to search a bit since they publish so much youtube content.

ok ill chek it out

[SteveGrabowski0]

it is overclocked and im saving up for an i5 my gpu is dying so im getting that 1st

also its the same piice +/- 5 euros

 

ok ill chek it out

 

I wouldn't sweat the difference if you're only talking about using it with the Pentium for a couple of months while putting money away for an i5. In that case I'd go as powerful as I could with the GPU. Are there any stores where you can get good deals on the R9 290? In the US you can still find them for $30-$40 more than the R9 380, and the 290 smashes the 380 in performance. Another GPU to look at is the R9 280x, which soundly outperforms the R9 380 4GB. It maybe be too late now to get the 290 or 280x on firesale prices, but it's still worth searching. If you get a reference blower R9 290/290x though (e.g., this one) they can be very loud and run hot, but they'll still hugely outperform an R9 380 or GTX 960. If you get an R9 290/290x though, stay away from Asus DirectCU II.

[PandaCopyRight]

 

I wouldn't sweat the difference if you're only talking about using it with the Pentium for a couple of months while putting money away for an i5. In that case I'd go as powerful as I could with the GPU. Are there any stores where you can get good deals on the R9 290? In the US you can still find them for $30-$40 more than the R9 380, and the 290 smashes the 380 in performance. Another GPU to look at is the R9 280x, which soundly outperforms the R9 380 4GB. It maybe be too late now to get the 290 or 280x on firesale prices, but it's still worth searching. If you get a reference blower R9 290/290x though (e.g., this one) they can be very loud and run hot, but they'll still hugely outperform an R9 380 or GTX 960. If you get an R9 290/290x though, stay away from Asus DirectCU II.

i have an odd question ..... does the 290 and 280x have DX12 support?

also i cant find any that fit my budget and is from a store i trust

[FinestRyeBread]

380 or 390

[PandaCopyRight]

380 or 390

cant afford a 390 if i could afford it i would get a GTX 970

[kaisei]

As SteveGrabowski0 said, I would go as powerful as you can with a GPU. 290/x would be the best  price to performance. If you really don't have the choice to move into the that range, I would say grab the 280x, as it is a more powerful card than the 380 and 960. The 280/x and 290/x both have basic support of DX12. http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-demonstrates-2014mar20.aspx