need a 100 $ board for 8350

[Nena Trinity]

msi 970 gaming and GA-970A-UD3 are pretty much the same around here is there any asus board which is of same amount ?

 

also out of both which one do u think i should buy > ? 

 

and if its 8+2 phase does that mean it fully supports 8350 ?

8+2 is best for a 8350 but a 6+2 is probably good if you had one that worked nice!

[harrynowl]

M5A99FX PRO R2.0:

*VRM= 6+2

*Heatsink = Yes

*TDP = 140W

*Recommended? = Yes

*Low RDS = Yes

 

It looks good but I myself have never had one and the 6+2 worries me a bit...

It's a solid 6+2 phase, much better than the one in the 970 Gaming (which uses very cheap Nikos caps).

 

The 970 Krait is 4+1 I believe.

[Nena Trinity]

It's a solid 6+2 phase, much better than the one in the 970 Gaming (which uses very cheap Nikos caps).

 

The 970 Krait is 4+1 I believe.

But the MSI page says there caps lasts over 10 years!

[nomnom123qwe]

But the MSI page says there caps lasts over 10 years!

well the board i bought earlier said it has dual uefi bios it does not and it said it support fx processors which include 8350 which it does not also it said it has good capacitors which i pretty much hate to say are pieces of crap 

 

 

even though ur msi 970 gaming looks good here are my questions concerns about it 

 

asking again is it 8+2 phase as i really do not want to screw up this time again ? http://goo.gl/J9uVA4

 

also i would like to know does it really have uefi bois which run via mouse ?

 

also i need good caps as my old board increased 10 c of cpu socket when i oc-ed my ram .. so i really do not want that kind of mess again + i do not have budget for a new cooler

 

does it have a pcie 2.0 slot ?

 

is it the same size as my last board  will it fit my case?

 

will it run with my psu and gpu is it sufficient for it ? having more phase doesn't require more power does it  ?

 

does it has front usb 3.0 ? if i upgrade my case in future ?

 

does it has usb 2.0 as my case has only 2.0 front headers...

[Sintezza]

But the MSI page says there caps lasts over 10 years!

 

 

like i said above msi am3+ boards realy have bad quality vreg components.

This has been an issue for years, and its still there.

[Sintezza]

But the MSI page says there caps lasts over 10 years!

 

This is how the quality of Msi vreg's on AM3+ boards looks like.

 

[Clyne]

People need to learn to understand vreg design, and the quality of the parts that are used.

 

Asus 6+2 powerphase digi vrm boards, like the Asus M5A99FX pro R2.0 / Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 / Asus M5A99X R2.0.

Have a rock sollid vreg design, and will totaly support a FX8 core on it, adequate overclocking capabilities.

 

Msi AM3+ boards suck in general.

The 970A gaming, isnt that bad, however its not the best overclocking board either.

But the main issue with the Msi boards is overheating vrm´s and mosfets if you wanne overclock a FX8 core pass 4.5Ghz.

Msi´s vreg design components are abviously not compairable to Asus components atall.

*Most MSI AM3+ boards suck

The new ones, 970 GAMING, SLI Strait, 990FX Gaming are the newer ones that work fine.

[Sintezza]

*Most MSI AM3+ boards suck

The new ones, 970 GAMING, SLI Strait, 990FX Gaming are the newer ones that work fine.

 

no they still suck.

If you want a decent AM3+ board, then yeah Asus it is basicly.

[Clyne]

This is how the quality of Msi vreg's on AM3+ boards looks like.

 

That board has a 4+2....you can't except a 4+2 to handle a 9590....

[Sintezza]

That board has a 4+2....you can't except a 4+2 to handle a 9590....

 

does it matter?

FX8350 / FX8370 are totaly the same chips as a FX9590.

FX9590 is just a FX8350 overclocked to 4.7Ghz.

[Clyne]

does it matter?

a FX8350 / FX8370 are totaly the same chips as a FX9590.

a FX9590 is just a FX8350 overclocked to 4.7Ghz.

Yes, but the 9590 is a chip clocked at 4.7/5GHZ compared to 83xx which are usually in the 3-4.2ghz range.......

Same chip, but different clocks and voltage set on to the chip.

[Sintezza]

Yes, but the 9590 is a chip clocked at 4.7/5GHZ compared to 83xx which are usually in the 3-4.2ghz range.......

Same chip, but different clocks and voltage set on to the chip.

 

it doesnt realy matter, the krait wont handle a FX83xx chip either.

But next to that, Msi allways had overheating issues with their AM3+ boards.

Even their newer boards to day suffer from the same issues.

Their vreg designs are just garbage.

[Clyne]

it doesnt realy matter, the krait wont handle a FX83xx chip either.

But next to that, Msi allways had overheating issues with their AM3+ boards.

Even their newer boards to day suffer from the same issues.

Their vreg designs are just garbage.

Then you should buy a Asus or Gigabyte......

Have a M5A97 R2.0 that's 4+2 and it's fine. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

it doesnt realy matter, the krait wont handle a FX83xx chip either.

But next to that, Msi allways had overheating issues with their AM3+ boards.

Even their newer boards to day suffer from the same issues.

Their vreg designs are just garbage.

 

Then you should buy a Asus or Gigabyte......

Have a M5A97 R2.0 that's 4+2 and it's fine. 

the gigabyte 970A-UD3P is a very strong motherboard i've done suicide overclocking on it when i had enough of that slow POS i was running 1.55V at 4.73ghz consistently on my FX-8320 and the board never got really hot, the vrm's where at around 85-90C...which is perfectly fine they are rated for like 110 or 120c i don't remember but it was something like that...i managed to get my cinebench R15 single-threaded score to a whooping 109!!! (haswell at 3.0ghz scores 131 but hey! you know... )

[Nena Trinity]

well the board i bought earlier said it has dual uefi bios it does not and it said it support fx processors which include 8350 which it does not also it said it has good capacitors which i pretty much hate to say are pieces of crap 

 

 

even though ur msi 970 gaming looks good here are my questions concerns about it 

 

asking again is it 8+2 phase as i really do not want to screw up this time again ? http://goo.gl/J9uVA4

 

also i would like to know does it really have uefi bois which run via mouse ?

 

also i need good caps as my old board increased 10 c of cpu socket when i oc-ed my ram .. so i really do not want that kind of mess again + i do not have budget for a new cooler

 

does it have a pcie 2.0 slot ?

 

is it the same size as my last board  will it fit my case?

 

will it run with my psu and gpu is it sufficient for it ? having more phase doesn't require more power does it  ?

 

does it has front usb 3.0 ? if i upgrade my case in future ?

 

does it has usb 2.0 as my case has only 2.0 front headers...

well the board i bought earlier said it has dual uefi bios it does not and it said it support fx processors which include 8350 which it does not also it said it has good capacitors which i pretty much hate to say are pieces of crap even though ur msi 970 gaming looks good here are my questions concerns about it.

 

asking again is it 8+2 phase as i really do not want to screw up this time again ? http://goo.gl/J9uVA4 = Yes it should be 8+2 but their homepage says "The specifications may differ from areas and we keep the right to change without notice. Please check the specific specification with your local dealers.

The color of the product might be affected by photography and the monitor's setting, which might be different from the real product."

 

also i would like to know does it really have uefi bois which run via mouse ? =UEFI yes and via mouse what? D:

 

also i need good caps as my old board increased 10 c of cpu socket when i oc-ed my ram .. so i really do not want that kind of mess again + i do not have budget for a new cooler = The page does say the caps are good.

 

does it have a pcie 2.0 slot ? = Yes but do not worry it wont bottleneck your GPU!

 

is it the same size as my last board  will it fit my case? = If your last board was ATX then yes. 

 

will it run with my psu and gpu is it sufficient for it ? having more phase doesn't require more power does it  ? = if your last board had no issue then the MSI 970 will also have none.

 

does it has front usb 3.0 ? if i upgrade my case in future ? (It should have unless MSI screwed it up...)

 

does it has usb 2.0 as my case has only 2.0 front headers... (Yes it should have that to!)

 

like i said above msi am3+ boards realy have bad quality vreg components.

This has been an issue for years, and its still there.

This is how the quality of Msi vreg's on AM3+ boards looks like. 

Wrong CPU in the motherboard duh! 125W = master race vs 220W = waste your money race...

[miagisan]

the gigabyte 970A-UD3P is a very strong motherboard i've done suicide overclocking on it when i had enough of that slow POS i was running 1.55V at 4.73ghz consistently on my FX-8320 and the board never got really hot, the vrm's where at around 85-90C...which is perfectly fine they are rated for like 110 or 120c i don't remember but it was something like that...i managed to get my cinebench R15 single-threaded score to a whooping 109!!! (haswell at 3.0ghz scores 131 but hey! you know... )

i second this. I have the 970 UD3P and my fx 6300 cranked up to 4.5ghz (safe oc...i could go alot higher as it only hits 51C)...the vrms never warm up over 60s

[nomnom123qwe]

the gigabyte 970A-UD3P is a very strong motherboard i've done suicide overclocking on it when i had enough of that slow POS i was running 1.55V at 4.73ghz consistently on my FX-8320 and the board never got really hot, the vrm's where at around 85-90C...which is perfectly fine they are rated for like 110 or 120c i don't remember but it was something like that...i managed to get my cinebench R15 single-threaded score to a whooping 109!!! (haswell at 3.0ghz scores 131 but hey! you know... )

well i have no issue with 970A-UD3P but my only problem is there support is not good enough as i went there with my ga 970a ds3 rev 1.1

 

i know the boards are solid i tried taking it out without unscrewing all screws it bend-ed but didn't break still works lol 

 

 

but its 90 $ more from msi boards also :l i think its over click as i do not need two  pcie x2.0 slots 

 

also i already invested more than 1000 $ in this machine it still wont run fine as i messed up big times on my lack of knowledge ,..

 

it used to run like 75 c cpu with vsync on when playing games and i didnt even oc my ram to its default clock 1600 mhz it used to run at 1333 mhz if i oced it my temps were 90 c

 

 

so i need a board on which i can play games with or without vsync with 1600 mhz and do not go above 65 c or so :l with 212 evo

 

also i would like to know if my psu is fine or not for this config :3 and if it will fit my board and stuff etc we can voice chat if u would like i will appreciate it 

[nomnom123qwe]

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will it run with my psu and gpu is it sufficient for it ? having more phase doesn't require more power does it  ? = if your last board had no issue then the MSI 970 will also have none.

 

i had alot of problems with my board and i think i already mentioned them before any ways

 

 

i think most of them was caused because it was a 4+2 phase board   and because bios doesn't officially support 8350  

 

issues were that i was not able to use any external hard disk or cd rom on usb 2.0 port it just wont work ...

 

it ran my 1600 mhz ram on 1333 mhz by default and if i oc-ed it on auto setting it wont boot and if i did it manually it would increase my cpu temps ...

 

also i was having horrendous temps even with 212 evo and vsync on !

 

and lastly it was not booting my brand new 8350 for some reason <,< until gigabyte service center representative tested it phenom 

 

and now it restarts on boot on xp and 7 if i am using 8350 which did not happen before .. and vrms are getting too hot 

 

though none of the above issues are present if i use it with phenom i wonder why 

[Sintezza]

the 970A-UD3P is a good board,

so is the 990FXA-UD3 rev 4.0

[nomnom123qwe]

the 970A-UD3P is a good board,

so is the 990FXA-UD3 rev 4.0

well the eCommerce sites which sell it in my country does not tell rev version any solution ? 

 

 

also what will happen if i just use a 4+2 gigabyte board with my 8350 something like  GA-78LMT-USB3  or  M5A78L-M/USB3?

 

so far i am like-ing  M5A78L-M/USB3 as it supports 8350

 

and site says * AMD FX Series CPU on this motherboard supports up to DDR3 1866MHz as its standard memory frequency.

 

so i am assuming it will run my ram at 1600 mhz 

 

also it says it has pcie x16 slot but does not say if it has 2.0 or not can u confirm that >? will this motherboard work with my config ?

 

also it does say if it supports my memory or not should i take the chance ? 

 

will it fit in my case as this is different size then my older board 

 

also i am concerned how will  i be able to insert 212 evo in it as i do not want it to face gpu on the other side i think it might be too small what do u think ?

[Prysin]

I dunno isnt a FX-8370 just a "higher clocked" FX-8320/50? If so it should be fine and I am sure it was 8+2...

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database (990FX is just for high OC and 9000 series)

no, the 990FX is for other things too.

They often support higher memory frequencies, and in some cases even ECC memory (yes, FX can use ECC)

They also support more PCIe gen2 lanes in addition to often, but not always, having more SATA 6GB/s connectors

AMD officially, only reccomend the 990FX Sabertooth and 990FX ROG Formula Crosshair when using a FX 9370 or 9590. Other motherboards are NOT officially reccomended by AMD as these are NOT guaranteed to survive the TDP of those chips.

[Sintezza]

Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 is rubbish

[nomnom123qwe]

Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 is rubbish

 

 

well then :3 please suggest me the best bet in between 150 $ 

 

but i see ur using Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD Motherboard

 its around 160 $ do u think i should just get that instead > but its 6+2 is it worth it ?

 

also Asus M5A97 Motherboard 2.0 is 125 $ whats the big difference ?

 

also what about Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ?

 

question if 4+2 boards work why do u say they are shit if im not overclocking ?

[Nena Trinity]

i had alot of problems with my board and i think i already mentioned them before any ways

 

 

i think most of them was caused because it was a 4+2 phase board   and because bios doesn't officially support 8350  

 

issues were that i was not able to use any external hard disk or cd rom on usb 2.0 port it just wont work ...

 

it ran my 1600 mhz ram on 1333 mhz by default and if i oc-ed it on auto setting it wont boot and if i did it manually it would increase my cpu temps ...

 

also i was having horrendous temps even with 212 evo and vsync on !

 

and lastly it was not booting my brand new 8350 for some reason <,< until gigabyte service center representative tested it phenom 

 

and now it restarts on boot on xp and 7 if i am using 8350 which did not happen before .. and vrms are getting too hot 

 

though none of the above issues are present if i use it with phenom i wonder why 

Yeah the krait one is a let down only 4 phase...

 

no, the 990FX is for other things too.

They often support higher memory frequencies, and in some cases even ECC memory (yes, FX can use ECC)

They also support more PCIe gen2 lanes in addition to often, but not always, having more SATA 6GB/s connectors

AMD officially, only reccomend the 990FX Sabertooth and 990FX ROG Formula Crosshair when using a FX 9370 or 9590. Other motherboards are NOT officially reccomended by AMD as these are NOT guaranteed to survive the TDP of those chips.

Exactly! The FX-9590 is for rich people who like to waste cash!

[Sintezza]

 

well then :3 please suggest me the best bet in between 150 $ 

 

but i see ur using Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD Motherboard

 its around 160 $ do u think i should just get that instead > but its 6+2 is it worth it ?

 

also Asus M5A97 Motherboard 2.0 is 125 $ whats the big difference ?

 

also what about Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ?

 

question if 4+2 boards work why do u say they are shit if im not overclocking ?

 

 

why are the boards so expensive? where do you live?