First gaming pc build

[ColdDigital]

Hey,

 

Is this a very good gaming pc build for now? The only things missing are power supply and monitor. 

 

My first build

 

Please be honest about it!

 

Thanks

[Aytex]

before all u potatoes come here telling him to buy r9 390 lemme break it down 2 u

if ur gonna do 1080p gaming and thats all go with 970

if your gonna upgrade to 1440p or 4k later buy the r9 390

[don_svetlio]

Erm, it has no Power Supply? Are you planning to have hamsters run it cause that'd be a sick build and I would pay to see it

[Bobulous_91]

How much will you be uprading in the future?

[don_svetlio]

before all u potatoes come here telling him to buy r9 390 lemme break it down 2 u

if ur gonna do 1080p gaming and thats all go with 970

if your gonna upgrade to 1440p or 4k later buy the r9 390

While somewhat true the 390 will perform the same or better even @ 1080p and is usually cheaper so it is well worth considering.

[ColdDigital]

before all u potatoes come here telling him to buy r9 390 lemme break it down 2 u

if ur gonna do 1080p gaming and thats all go with 970

if your gonna upgrade to 1440p or 4k later buy the r9 390

Ill probably upgrade in 2 years to 1440p, but not 4k. I dont think 4k is worth spending the money. 

[ind3x]

You don't need such an expensive mobo.

A lot of cheaper options are out there, and we're talking big savings.

Something like the MSI gaming 5 gives alot of the high options, but also some lower ones from asrock and asus will save you a lot of money.

[ColdDigital]

Erm, it has no Power Supply? Are you planning to have hamsters run it cause that'd be a sick build and I would pay to see it

Thats what I said, the Power supply is a still 'to be determined' thing, because I dont know which to buy. I posted on the power supply forum though, and only got 1 reply    :lol: .

[ColdDigital]

You don't need such an expensive mobo.

A lot of cheaper options are out there, and we're talking big savings.

Something like the MSI gaming 5 gives alot of the high options, but also some lower ones from asrock and asus will save you a lot of money.

This one? http://www.amazon.de/MSI-7917-001R-Mainboard-GAMING-Speicher/dp/B00K8KPXUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437944695&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+gaming+5

[Swndlr]

Bootiful

[don_svetlio]

Thats what I said, the Power supply is a still 'to be determined' thing, because I dont know which to buy. I posted on the power supply forum though, and only got 1 reply    :lol: .

Well, let me just say that anything from SeaSonic which is 650W or greater will be perfectly fine for the build and overclocking it. the M12II and M12II EVO are cheaper but the G-series or S12G are better quality with the most expensive and best quality being the X-series, Platinum series and the brand new Snow Silent.

As for the GPU, if you want to do 1440p then get the R9 390 since it has more than double the VRAM which is vital at 1440p and beyond as the 970 is already running out of VRAM with some games @ 1080p.

[PineappleHolidays]

While somewhat true the 390 will perform the same or better even @ 1080p and is usually cheaper so it is well worth considering.

Especially if you get some promo's.

 

https://www.caseking.de/powercolor-radeon-r9-390-pcs-8192-mb-gddr5-gcpc-039.html

[Atmos]

before all u potatoes come here telling him to buy r9 390 lemme break it down 2 u

if ur gonna do 1080p gaming and thats all go with 970

if your gonna upgrade to 1440p or 4k later buy the r9 390

 

at 1080p the 390 still out performs.

 

There are only 3 reason why you should get a 970 over a 390

• You get a sick promo code and get like 50-70+ dollars off
• You really, really, really, care about that extra 75w tdp
• You solely use nvidia features, and cannot ever change those features to anything else. (Shadowplay, cuda, etc)

For the same price, and often less thanks to opening sales and promos the 390 is just a better option. It performs the same, if not better at 1080p and has more than double the usable vram of the 970. while at 1080po you'll likely never use 8gbs, its almost given that in 2-3 years a 3.5gb vram cap is going to hinder cards at 1080p. Already know we're seeing limits at 2gbs, and even 3gbs.

[ColdDigital]

Especially if you get some promo's.

 

https://www.caseking.de/powercolor-radeon-r9-390-pcs-8192-mb-gddr5-gcpc-039.html

 

Well, let me just say that anything from SeaSonic which is 650W or greater will be perfectly fine for the build and overclocking it. the M12II and M12II EVO are cheaper but the G-series or S12G are better quality with the most expensive and best quality being the X-series, Platinum series and the brand new Snow Silent.

As for the GPU, if you want to do 1440p then get the R9 390 since it has more than double the VRAM which is vital at 1440p and beyond as the 970 is already running out of VRAM with some games @ 1080p.

Dont the 390 gets super high in temperatures at load and use lots of electricity?

[mr moose]

Ill probably upgrade in 2 years to 1440p, but not 4k. I dont think 4k is worth spending the money. 

 

That makes it hard, if it was going to be sooner I'd say get the best GPU you can afford now so when you get a new monitor you are set, but in two years the bigger GPU's will be cheaper, so much so that getting something cheaper now and upgrading in 2 years would (in the long run) end up costing the same but you'll have new tech in 2 years rather than this years tech.

[don_svetlio]

Dont the 390 gets super high in temperatures at load and use lots of electricity?

This is quite the bullshit.

My 280 barely breaks 60*C on an open test bench. Please don't spread wrong information.

With a proper cooler the 390 will never get hot and the power consumption isn't as high as this guy will have you believe.

[mr moose]

Dont the 390 gets super high in temperatures at load and use lots of electricity?

 

they sometimes get hotter and they do use more power, but don't fall for the internet hype, unless you are building in a really SSF case with no airflow etc then it won't really make a lick of difference.

[mr moose]

 Please don't spread wrong information.

 

Not to be pedantic but,

He's not spreading wrong information, he's asking a question.  And given the amount of BS on the internet about the topic it's quite a fair question.

[ColdDigital]

more than 300 euros for a 1440p monitor... wow. Then f**k 1440p not gonna spend so much on a bloody monitor...

[ind3x]

This one? http://www.amazon.de/MSI-7917-001R-Mainboard-GAMING-Speicher/dp/B00K8KPXUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437944695&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+gaming+5

Yes, this allows you to SLI in the future if you want to, if you don't want to SLI later, then you can go with even cheaper motherboards. In MSI's lineup the gaming 3 exists, and even a lower one. Other brands has similar lineups too, but i'm not familiar enough to make recommendations for any of them.

[don_svetlio]

Not to be pedantic but,

He's not spreading wrong information, he's asking a question.  And given the amount of BS on the internet about the topic it's quite a fair question.

It sounded more like a statement than a question honestly. The punctuation made me look for a second and question what he meant.

But still, the wording of the post isn't exactly proper as it makes it sound like the card runs at 95*C all the time ._. and the power draw is not enough to make a difference in the first 3 years of use honestly.

[ColdDigital]

Yes, this allows you to SLI in the future if you want to, if you don't want to SLI later, then you can go with even cheaper motherboards. In MSI's lineup the gaming 3 exists, and even a lower one. Other brands has similar lineups too, but i'm not familiar enough to make recommendations for any of them.

The rog one in my current build is only 8 euros more... so why not

[Alurit]

more than 300 euros for a 1440p monitor... wow. Then f**k 1440p not gonna spend so much on a bloody monitor...

vram is going to be an issue with multimonitor setups as well. the 3.5+0.5 GB should be enough if publishers would allocate more resources into pc ports, but since they not a lot of them preserve their habit of caching into vram, since they can easily do it on a console with 8gb unified vram, this is why you have games that use 3+GB of vram at 1080p like assassin's creed unity, far cry 4 and even while being praised as a good port, on very high setting gta v can use 3+gb as well sometimes peaking beyond the 3.5 barrier.

The guys at digital foundry are recommending that today for 1080p you to have at least 3gb of vram and at the end the year they estimating that number to be 4gb.

on the other side of the coin amd is sometimes getting late with their drivers some people might even call it worse drivers. and the 390 using quite a lot more power, but the temperatures are not that bad, it is just the 970 is super good, but the 390 with aftermarket coolers is about between the 980 and 980ti temperature wise, so it's higher but not awful 

[don_svetlio]

vram is going to be an issue with multimonitor setups as well. the 3.5+0.5 GB should be enough if publishers would allocate more resources into pc ports, but since they not a lot of them preserve their habit of caching into vram, since they can easily do it on a console with 8gb unified vram, this is why you have games that use 3+GB of vram at 1080p like assassin's creed unity, far cry 4 and even while being praised as a good port, on very high setting gta v can use 3+gb as well sometimes peaking beyond the 3.5 barrier.

The guys at digital foundry are recommending that today for 1080p you to have at least 3gb of vram and at the end the year they estimating that number to be 4gb.

on the other side of the coin amd is sometimes getting late with their drivers some people might even call it worse drivers. and the 390 using quite a lot more power, but the temperatures are not that bad, it is just the 970 is super good, but the 390 with aftermarket coolers is about between the 980 and 980ti temperature wise, so it's higher but not awful 

I agree for the most part but would like to add that recent Nvidia drivers have been nothing short of unstable and a buggy mess. This has been the case for 3 months now so I advise caution.

[ColdDigital]

vram is going to be an issue with multimonitor setups as well. the 3.5+0.5 GB should be enough if publishers would allocate more resources into pc ports, but since they not a lot of them preserve their habit of caching into vram, since they can easily do it on a console with 8gb unified vram, this is why you have games that use 3+GB of vram at 1080p like assassin's creed unity, far cry 4 and even while being praised as a good port, on very high setting gta v can use 3+gb as well sometimes peaking beyond the 3.5 barrier.

The guys at digital foundry are recommending that today for 1080p you to have at least 3gb of vram and at the end the year they estimating that number to be 4gb.

on the other side of the coin amd is sometimes getting late with their drivers some people might even call it worse drivers. and the 390 using quite a lot more power, but the temperatures are not that bad, it is just the 970 is super good, but the 390 with aftermarket coolers is about between the 980 and 980ti temperature wise, so it's higher but not awful 

This is what I initially planned: I planned that I now get the 970, and once the Pascal series gets released from nvidia. Ill sell the 970 and upgrade to the Pascal series. 

 

Plus the 1440p monitors are 300+, I dont wanna spend that kind of money yet on just a monitor.