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And the 390 could stay longer in my build theoretically correct? because of the 4 more gigs of ram?

It would have a hell of an easier time handling dual monitors or larger resolutions or games that eat VRAM for breakfast.

vram is going to be an issue with multimonitor setups as well. the 3.5+0.5 GB should be enough if publishers would allocate more resources into pc ports, but since they not a lot of them preserve their habit of caching into vram, since they can easily do it on a console with 8gb unified vram, this is why you have games that use 3+GB of vram at 1080p like assassin's creed unity, far cry 4 and even while being praised as a good port, on very high setting gta v can use 3+gb as well sometimes peaking beyond the 3.5 barrier.

The guys at digital foundry are recommending that today for 1080p you to have at least 3gb of vram and at the end the year they estimating that number to be 4gb.

on the other side of the coin amd is sometimes getting late with their drivers some people might even call it worse drivers. and the 390 using quite a lot more power, but the temperatures are not that bad, it is just the 970 is super good, but the 390 with aftermarket coolers is about between the 980 and 980ti temperature wise, so it's higher but not awful 

 

I agree for the most part but would like to add that recent Nvidia drivers have been nothing short of unstable and a buggy mess. This has been the case for 3 months now so I advise caution.

If its super worth it, then I will get a 1440p, but not at this point yet.

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This is what I initially planned: I planned that I now get the 970, and once the Pascal series gets released from nvidia. Ill sell the 970 and upgrade to the Pascal series. 

 

Plus the 1440p monitors are 300+, I dont wanna spend that kind of money yet on just a monitor.

Just a heads-up. Pascal will be Nvidia's 1st attempt at HBM and much how it was with GDDR5, I'd expect them to have some issues. Still, not a bad plan but will involve waiting for another year at the very least.

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vram is going to be an issue with multimonitor setups as well. the 3.5+0.5 GB should be enough if publishers would allocate more resources into pc ports, but since they not a lot of them preserve their habit of caching into vram, since they can easily do it on a console with 8gb unified vram, this is why you have games that use 3+GB of vram at 1080p like assassin's creed unity, far cry 4 and even while being praised as a good port, on very high setting gta v can use 3+gb as well sometimes peaking beyond the 3.5 barrier.

The guys at digital foundry are recommending that today for 1080p you to have at least 3gb of vram and at the end the year they estimating that number to be 4gb.

on the other side of the coin amd is sometimes getting late with their drivers some people might even call it worse drivers. and the 390 using quite a lot more power, but the temperatures are not that bad, it is just the 970 is super good, but the 390 with aftermarket coolers is about between the 980 and 980ti temperature wise, so it's higher but not awful 

 

Just a heads-up. Pascal will be Nvidia's 1st attempt at HBM and much how it was with GDDR5, I'd expect them to have some issues. Still, not a bad plan but will involve waiting for another year at the very least.

So the 390 will perform the same as the 970 but with more power consumption and 30 euros more and 4 more gigs of vram?

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So the 390 will perform the same as the 970 but with more power consumption and 30 euros more and 4 more gigs of vram?

It will consume more power, yes but will outperform the 970 and like I said, has more than double the VRAM (8 gigs vs 3.5 gigs)

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Just a heads-up. Pascal will be Nvidia's 1st attempt at HBM and much how it was with GDDR5, I'd expect them to have some issues. Still, not a bad plan but will involve waiting for another year at the very least.

 

vram is going to be an issue with multimonitor setups as well. the 3.5+0.5 GB should be enough if publishers would allocate more resources into pc ports, but since they not a lot of them preserve their habit of caching into vram, since they can easily do it on a console with 8gb unified vram, this is why you have games that use 3+GB of vram at 1080p like assassin's creed unity, far cry 4 and even while being praised as a good port, on very high setting gta v can use 3+gb as well sometimes peaking beyond the 3.5 barrier.

The guys at digital foundry are recommending that today for 1080p you to have at least 3gb of vram and at the end the year they estimating that number to be 4gb.

on the other side of the coin amd is sometimes getting late with their drivers some people might even call it worse drivers. and the 390 using quite a lot more power, but the temperatures are not that bad, it is just the 970 is super good, but the 390 with aftermarket coolers is about between the 980 and 980ti temperature wise, so it's higher but not awful 

And the 390 could stay longer in my build theoretically correct? because of the 4 more gigs of ram?

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And the 390 could stay longer in my build theoretically correct? because of the 4 more gigs of ram?

It would have a hell of an easier time handling dual monitors or larger resolutions or games that eat VRAM for breakfast.

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Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

Windows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6

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Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280  3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD Red
Celestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70
Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VT

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It sounded more like a statement than a question honestly. The punctuation made me look for a second and question what he meant.

But still, the wording of the post isn't exactly proper as it makes it sound like the card runs at 95*C all the time ._. and the power draw is not enough to make a difference in the first 3 years of use honestly.

 

Fair enough, just didn't want him to feel demeaned because of a question.

 

 

And the 390 could stay longer in my build theoretically correct? because of the 4 more gigs of ram?

 

That should be the case, if you want to look at it this way, the 390 should be more "future proof" than the 970 due to ram.  

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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Fair enough, just didn't want him to feel demeaned because of a question.

 

 

 

That should be the case, if you want to look at it this way, the 390 should be more "future proof" than the 970 due to ram.  

Yeah, I did come off as rude, didn't I? I guess I did react strongly. I admit my mistake, no point in making excuses.

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K thank you for that video. Seems to help  :)  :D . Im gonna go with the 390 then  :P  :D !

 

Thanks

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