AMD HBM Supply Problem Might Be Solved

[patrickjp93]

Same difference.

 

No, but seriously, what I meant was that there's a cut-down version in the form of the Fury, and the Nano that's binned a bit lower, assuming the rumors are right.. Regardless, I can't imagine the yields are very good.

The die is smaller than GM 200, so the yields on the GPU are likely fine. HBM and interposer production are the choke points right now, and it's much more the TSVs. One major TSV partner of Hynix only today announced ramping up TSV production, and Hynix is the only HBM maker right now.

[Curufinwe_wins]

The Nano isn't cut down. It has lower clock rates than Fury X though.

So claims say. I am still extremely sceptical that they would release a full card with that sort of gimped power delivery and cooling unless they were literally not capable of reaching the stock speed. (In which case that basically makes them cut downs anyways).

It would make no sense to put fully functional fury gpus on lower price and therefor lower margin cards.

[patrickjp93]

So claims say. I am still extremely sceptical that they would release a full card with that sort of gimped power delivery and cooling unless they were literally not capable of reaching the stock speed. (In which case that basically makes them cut downs anyways).

It would make no sense to put fully functional fury gpus on lower price and therefor lower margin cards.

It would since all the GPUs come from the same dies. If the Fury X is the top-binned cream of the crop, the Fury overclocks to near-parity, and the Nano doesn't so it ends up on a lower end chip, that is a good way to bin and separate the chips. Otherwise the clocks on the Fury X would have to be lower to compensate for what the Nano is and the price would have to be lower to compensate for entry performance differences which could hurt AMD more if the reviews came out even worse against the 980TI which was already winning by 5-10% across the board in all but 4K. This makes more sense than you initially realize from AMD's position.

[Curufinwe_wins]

It would since all the GPUs come from the same dies. If the Fury X is the top-binned cream of the crop, the Fury overclocks to near-parity, and the Nano doesn't so it ends up on a lower end chip, that is a good way to bin and separate the chips. Otherwise the clocks on the Fury X would have to be lower to compensate for what the Nano is and the price would have to be lower to compensate for entry performance differences which could hurt AMD more if the reviews came out even worse against the 980TI which was already winning by 5-10% across the board in all but 4K. This makes more sense than you initially realize from AMD's position.

Perhaps this may be evident when actual overclocking is possible, but damn we haven't gotten anything out of it yet. Sub 10%

 

I mean though unless a sizable proportion of fiji's can't reach fury x speed in production then it doesn't make sense, and if it does make sense than that is just another form of cut down or AMD massively overclocked their cards once the 980 ti was being announced and that fucked up their plans.

[Maslofski]

awesome