Thoughts???

[Bloodybluedragon]

Budget (including currency): financing 

Country: US

Games, programs, or workloads that it will be used for: video and photo editing, android emulation, benchmarking internal programs, 3D modeling, general IT, and occasionally gaming. I work at a hospital and work with people who ask why their new printer is not working to find out they didn't put paper in the tray to doctors who want proprietary imaging machine software to send an email to their 10-year-old iPhone of a 3d rendered blood vessel map and have It highlight the weak points so he can diagnose while he's on hole 12 at the country club. Lol

Other details

 

I have built PCs before for others but never for myself. I finally have a reason and the opportunity to do that. Let's start with the build.

 

Ryzen 9 7950x 

AZRock X670E steel legend 

Deepcool 720s Zero Dark 360mm (Purchased)

Mushkin Enhanced Redline DDR5-5600 (32GB x2) x2  28-34-34-89 FWL 10.0 1.35V Dual channel  Rank dual Overclock XMP/EXPO

MSI SPATIUM M570 HS 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 (Boot)

Leven JS600 4 TB 2.5" SSD ( general storage)(my not buy)

Gigabyte Windforce V2 GeForce RTX 4090

Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000 W 80+ Platinum Modular

Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2(Purchased)

 

 

 

I will be overclocking slightly nothing extreme. I run heavy CPU workloads and I want my system to last. From what I've been reading and watching the 7950x3D has had some stability issues especially when running all 4 RAM slots. The 7950x does not seem to have the same issues until XMP is enabled mostly above 6200 Mt/s. Yes, there are times that 128 GB RAM would come in handy ( admittedly not very often). I need over 64 GB for sure and 48 GB sticks are... I don't trust them yet. I know this looks like I don't like Intel but that's not it. Intel's next-gen of CPUs are coming with a new architecture similar to the AMD 7000 and 8000 series. With Intel's track record of allocating resources to " the new shiny toy" and creating bugs with their older tech; I will not be buying an Intel CPU currently. for the cooler, I wanted high airflow. The 240 rad seemed small and 420 I would have needed to find another case that was way more expensive. After purchasing it I found out it's a bit overkill but oh well. I like what the motherboard offers in terms of IO for the price point. The power supply is a fine price for the wattage and 80+ rating. If only there were an impartial lab to validate those ratings. ( I know the labs team at LTT is working on it and it takes time; I am just impatient lol). I frequently download programs to my OS drive to make sure different things work for an array of users. Hopefully, the Gen5 x4 with a large cache SSD will help speed things up a bit. I have 3 2.5in 4TB 7200rpm drives that I may put in here for storage. I may not get the other storage SSD. The 4090 is the least expensive one I could find new. I just want the 4090... no justification there. I was originally debating between the 4070ti super and the 7900XT. I couldn't pick and the 4080 line is pretty pricy so I just said screw it and went full send. The case just needed good airflow, holding all the components, and good front IO. 

 

 

 

Any insight would be appreciated

Thank you for your help.

 

[PDifolco]

7 minutes ago, Bloodybluedragon said:

Budget (including currency): financing 

Country: US

Games, programs, or workloads that it will be used for: video and photo editing, android emulation, benchmarking internal programs, 3D modeling, general IT, and occasionally gaming. I work at a hospital and work with people who ask why their new printer is not working to find out they didn't put paper in the tray to doctors who want proprietary imaging machine software to send an email to their 10-year-old iPhone of a 3d rendered blood vessel map and have It highlight the weak points so he can diagnose while he's on hole 12 at the country club. Lol

Other details

 

I have built PCs before for others but never for myself. I finally have a reason and the opportunity to do that. Let's start with the build.

 

Ryzen 9 7950x 

AZRock X670E steel legend 

Deepcool 720s Zero Dark 360mm (Purchased)

Mushkin Enhanced Redline DDR5-5600 (32GB x2) x2  28-34-34-89 FWL 10.0 1.35V Dual channel  Rank dual Overclock XMP/EXPO

MSI SPATIUM M570 HS 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 (Boot)

Leven JS600 4 TB 2.5" SSD ( general storage)(my not buy)

Gigabyte Windforce V2 GeForce RTX 4090

Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000 W 80+ Platinum Modular

Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2(Purchased)

 

 

 

I will be overclocking slightly nothing extreme. I run heavy CPU workloads and I want my system to last. From what I've been reading and watching the 7950x3D has had some stability issues especially when running all 4 RAM slots. The 7950x does not seem to have the same issues until XMP is enabled mostly above 6200 Mt/s. Yes, there are times that 128 GB RAM would come in handy ( admittedly not very often). I need over 64 GB for sure and 48 GB sticks are... I don't trust them yet. I know this looks like I don't like Intel but that's not it. Intel's next-gen of CPUs are coming with a new architecture similar to the AMD 7000 and 8000 series. With Intel's track record of allocating resources to " the new shiny toy" and creating bugs with their older tech; I will not be buying an Intel CPU currently. for the cooler, I wanted high airflow. The 240 rad seemed small and 420 I would have needed to find another case that was way more expensive. After purchasing it I found out it's a bit overkill but oh well. I like what the motherboard offers in terms of IO for the price point. The power supply is a fine price for the wattage and 80+ rating. If only there were an impartial lab to validate those ratings. ( I know the labs team at LTT is working on it and it takes time; I am just impatient lol). I frequently download programs to my OS drive to make sure different things work for an array of users. Hopefully, the Gen5 x4 with a large cache SSD will help speed things up a bit. I have 3 2.5in 4TB 7200rpm drives that I may put in here for storage. I may not get the other storage SSD. The 4090 is the least expensive one I could find new. I just want the 4090... no justification there. I was originally debating between the 4070ti super and the 7900XT. I couldn't pick and the 4080 line is pretty pricy so I just said screw it and went full send. The case just needed good airflow, holding all the components, and good front IO. 

 

 

 

Any insight would be appreciated

Thank you for your help.

 

 

Yes looks like a great machine, good parts

 

[RONOTHAN##]

6 minutes ago, Bloodybluedragon said:

I need over 64 GB for sure and 48 GB sticks are... I don't trust them yet.

Why not? The 48GB sticks are perfectly fine as long as you're on a BIOS revision from the past ~6 months, and getting a 2x48GB kit at 6000 CL30 is relatively easy. 

 

8 minutes ago, Bloodybluedragon said:

From what I've been reading and watching the 7950x3D has had some stability issues especially when running all 4 RAM slots. The 7950x does not seem to have the same issues until XMP is enabled mostly above 6200 Mt/s.

No? The 7950X3D and 7950X have the exact same memory controller on them, they behave exactly the same with RAM. With 4 dual rank memory sticks you will get stuck at <4800MT/s regardless of the AM5 CPU you go for if you're buying today. In theory the Ryzen 9000 series CPUs releasing soom might change that, though I'd suspect that they're just reusing the same memory controller on Ryzen 7000 to save R&D costs, similar to Ryzen 3000/5000 and Ryzen 1000/2000. 

 

 

[Bloodybluedragon]

35 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Why not? The 48GB sticks are perfectly fine as long as you're on a BIOS revision from the past ~6 months, and getting a 2x48GB kit at 6000 CL30 is relatively easy. 

 

 

Hmmm okay now you got me thinking. If I ran Vengeance 2x48 6000 CL30 I would be able to actually hit 5600 and will be more responsive regardless of the mild difference in CL. It may even save me $40.  

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, Bloodybluedragon said:

If I ran Vengeance 2x48 6000 CL30 I would be able to actually hit 5600 and will be more responsive regardless of the mild difference in CL. It may even save me $40.  

If you ran Vengeance 2x48GB 6000 CL30, you'd actually be able to hit 6000 with ease. Also, because timings are measured in clock cycles, the 6000 CL30-36-36 kit and 5600 CL28-34-34 kit have effectively the same latencies, so if you do want to drop the speed down to 5600 for whatever reason, you can run the CL28-34-34 timings.