GTX - 970 FPS ISSUES (Minecraft)

[CatzRuleZWorld]

This probably won't help but try running furmark at the same time as minecraft

[Mr.Meerkat]

Get CPUz and have minecraft running and see what the clocks are as it might me overclocked to 4.5ghz doesn't mean it's running at 4.5ghz

[Mr.Meerkat]

Get CPUz and have minecraft running and see what the clocks are as it might me overclocked to 4.5ghz doesn't mean it's running at 4.5ghz

[Enderman]

Again, its the CPU bottlenecking the GPU, which is why when you reduce settings you see no difference at all in performance. Are you running an overclock by any chance?

Again, stop talking about stuff you don't even understand. The CPU would not bottleneck a 970 to an fps lower than the 560ti. That's simply not how it works.

Stop spreading misinformation and go do some research.

Just stop. You're not helping anybody by making up BS.

 

maybe the CPU isn't actually hitting 4.5ghz or even because of how minecraft is so light on the 970, the 970 is still in "power saving mode" (don't know what it's called)

Why does everyone think minecraft is a light game?

It uses GPU like any other game. Close to 100% usage with framerate unlocked.

It also uses a lot of vram, system ram, and CPU power.

[Mr.Meerkat]

Again, stop talking about stuff you don't even understand. The CPU would not bottleneck a 970 to an fps lower than the 560ti. That's simply not how it works.

Stop spreading misinformation and go do some research.

Just stop. You're not helping anybody by making up BS.

 

Why does everyone think minecraft is a light game?

It uses GPU like any other game. Close to 100% usage with framerate unlocked.

It also uses a lot of vram, system ram, and CPU power.

Fair enough. I get 40+fps maxed out 720p on my old laptop with a core duo 2 and a geforce g105m so yeah...

[Dabombinable]

Again, stop talking about stuff you don't even understand. The CPU would not bottleneck a 970 to an fps lower than the 560ti. That's simply not how it works.

Stop spreading misinformation and go do some research.

Just stop. You're not helping anybody by making up BS.

 

Why does everyone think minecraft is a light game?

It uses GPU like any other game. Close to 100% usage with framerate unlocked.

It also uses a lot of vram, system ram, and CPU power.

Oh I fully understand the situation at hand, and you yourself have never actually had the hardware at hand to actually experience the issue at hand. And I'm not spreading misinformation BTW, when I switch out the motherboard in my LGA775 rig (P5Q Deluxe fried), I could easily demonstrate everything for you, at 1080p 74Hz and 1024x768 85Hz.

[KsXqjEpTpYQvt532]

Get CPUz and have minecraft running and see what the clocks are as it might me overclocked to 4.5ghz doesn't mean it's running at 4.5ghz

Should I overclock it back to 4.5ghz? Because I went back to the automatic stock clock as I saw no change...

[Dabombinable]

Should I overclock it back to 4.5ghz? Because I went back to the automatic stock clock as I saw no change...

Is core parking still enabled by any chance?

[Mr.Meerkat]

 

Should I overclock it back to 4.5ghz? Because I went back to the automatic stock clock as I saw no change...

 

If there was no change then don't bother.

[Enderman]

Framerate is unlocked and no VSync is turned on. I guess all I have left is some genius to come on here and tell me everything whilst I test the old 560Ti and see if I get the same FPS as I did before which could easily hit 1200+ on Flatland SP... 

Ok so first of all post screenshots of afterburner while running minecraft just to show the knuckleheads in this thread that minecraft IS using your GPU close to 100%

Because I know it is, but obviously @ thinks he knows more when he can't even understand how a bottleneck works...

 

Next try forcing the version with the instructions I posted in a previous reply which you may not have read, i will post it again here:

Make sure your GPU drivers are up to date again, all windows updates are installed, download and install the latest java 8 32 and 64 bit versionsthen try making a bash script that does < java -Xmx8G -jar "location of your MC application here" >put that in the bash file without the <> and save it as all filetypes, "name.bat" (including the quotes) you will have to try several of the downloads from minecraft.netI think its the "minecraft for windows alternative" one, or you can try the one in "minecraft for linus/other"try both in the bash file, see if anything changes

 

 

 

 

Oh I fully understand the situation at hand, and you yourself have never actually had the hardware at hand to actually experience the issue at hand.

You can leave now. Thanks.

[Dabombinable]

Ok so first of all post screenshots of afterburner while running minecraft just to show the knuckleheads in this thread that minecraft IS using your GPU close to 100%

Because I know it is, but obviously @ thinks he knows more when he can't even understand how a bottleneck works...

 

Next try forcing the version with the instructions I posted in a previous reply which you may not have read, i will post it again here:

Make sure your GPU drivers are up to date again, all windows updates are installed, download and install the latest java 8 32 and 64 bit versionsthen try making a bash script that does < java -Xmx8G -jar "location of your MC application here" >put that in the bash file without the <> and save it as all filetypes, "name.bat" (including the quotes) you will have to try several of the downloads from minecraft.netI think its the "minecraft for windows alternative" one, or you can try the one in "minecraft for linus/other"try both in the bash file, see if anything changes

You can leave now. Thanks.

So you don't want any proof then?

[KsXqjEpTpYQvt532]

Is core parking still enabled by any chance?

No cores seem to be parked... Again, a screenshot of all the cores and the FPS... http://i.imgur.com/Wh5stRY.png

[Dabombinable]

No cores seem to be parked... Again, a screenshot of all the cores and the FPS... http://i.imgur.com/Wh5stRY.png

That seems about on par to what my Xeon X5450 saw with my GTX 970. You might be better off using the 560ti if you want higher frame rates and saving up for a new CPU, Haswell CPU are quite good for the price, and AMD had has Zen releasing next year (it might be a better option too since its going to be released on a platform with more features than those of Haswell).

[Mr.Meerkat]

Make sure that the game is running in fullscreen mode other wise other apps and windows aero would take up a lot of CPU/GPU power

[Enderman]

Oh I fully understand the situation at hand, and you yourself have never actually had the hardware at hand to actually experience the issue at hand. And I'm not spreading misinformation BTW, when I switch out the motherboard in my LGA775 rig (P5Q Deluxe fried), I could easily demonstrate everything for you, at 1080p 74Hz and 1024x768 85Hz.

No you cant because with a bottleneck CPU a more powerful GPU will NEVER get worse performance than a lower power GPU

So if OP's processor was a bottleneck, the more powerful 970 should NEVER get lower fps than a 560ti

Look:

the 8350 is a bottleneck. The 780SLI DOES NOT PERFORM WORSE THAN 980 SLI

 

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? you will never get lower fps with a more powerful GPU even if the CPU is a bottleneck

 

 

So you don't want any proof then?

Proof of what? how bottlenecking works? Do you know what google is?

https://davescomputertips.com/how-to-determine-gpu-vs-cpu-bottlenecks-and-possible-solutions/

go teach yourself something

[KsXqjEpTpYQvt532]

CPU-Z, Afterburner and Minecraft at once: http://prntscr.com/7tngeg

[Dabombinable]

No you cant because with a bottleneck CPU a more powerful GPU will NEVER get worse performance than a lower power GPU

So if OP's processor was a bottleneck, the more powerful 970 should NEVER get lower fps than a 560ti

Look:

the 8350 is a bottleneck. The 780SLI DOES NOT PERFORM WORSE THAN 980 SLI

 

WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? you will never get lower fps with a more powerful GPU even if the CPU is a bottleneck

 

 

Proof of what? how bottlenecking works? Do you know what google is?

https://davescomputertips.com/how-to-determine-gpu-vs-cpu-bottlenecks-and-possible-solutions/

go teach yourself something

Is Dirt: showdown Minecraft? No its not. You really have now clue as to how Maxwell based GPU behave when not under a full load.  Also, that doesn't compare Kepler to Maxwell.

[Dabombinable]

CPU-Z, Afterburner and Minecraft at once: http://prntscr.com/7tngeg

Could you download and run GPU Z? Its a lot better for monitoring all aspects of graphics cards, and it will fit on the screen with CPU Z.

[KsXqjEpTpYQvt532]

Dabobminable seems to be right, as the GPU power usage never goes up above 53% on Minecraft, but reaches almost a 90% on Witcher 3...

[Dabombinable]

Dabobminable seems to be right, as the GPU power usage never goes up above 53% on Minecraft, but reaches almost a 90% on Witcher 3...

The Witcher 3 is a more GPU intensive game. Perhaps a higher resolution texture pack might help? (never got around to using one with my LGA775 rig).

[Mr.Meerkat]

Either that timing for that photo or what? What that photo says is that you processor (or at lease for core 0) is idling/isn't boosting the clocks up to what they should be underload

 

Edit: *isn't not is

[KsXqjEpTpYQvt532]

Screenshots of everything?: http://i.imgur.com/H4hDE74.jpg

 

The fps just happened to be 125 somehow.. It could never stand there when fighting or looking at entities.

[Enderman]

Is Dirt: showdown Minecraft? No its not. You really have now clue as to how Maxwell based GPU behave when not under a full load.  Also, that doesn't compare Kepler to Maxwell.

That was an example of how bottlenecking works, for you, the person who doesn't listen and would rather believe that they are a know-it-all

 

And look here, there are people who do get normal performance with GTX970s

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Hardware_performance

 

Windows 7 64-bit Intel Core i5-4590 3.30GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 16GB DDR3 1600MHz SSD 1920×1080 1.6.11 1.8.2-pre6 240-490fps 220-450fps 272-462fps

 

[Dabombinable]

 

That was an example of how bottlenecking works, for you, the person who doesn't listen and would rather believe that they are a know-it-all

 

And look here, there are people who do get normal performance with GTX970s

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Hardware_performance

 

Windows 7 64-bit Intel Core i5-4590 3.30GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 16GB DDR3 1600MHz SSD 1920×1080 1.6.11 1.8.2-pre6 240-490 220-450 272-462

 

 

I know exactly how bottlenecking works, I experienced it when using my GTX 970 with my Xeon X5450, Crysis 3 only saw 79% GPU usage for example.

[KsXqjEpTpYQvt532]

I know exactly how bottlenecking works, I experienced it when using my GTX 970 with my Xeon X5450, Crysis 3 only saw 79% GPU usage for example.

But I am reaching a good constant 60+fps on Witcher 3 all being maxed out and my GPU tends to use only up to 83% power usage on that game. 

 

edit: forgot that you said Witcher 3 was more GPU based than CPU, sorry.