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So, it looks like the 390X trades blows with the 980 while being cheaper. ($500 vs $429). It's also a good thing that MSI changed the cooler from the 290X to the 390X to make it better. What do you guys think? 

 

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Digital Storm GTX 980 vs R9 390X:

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the gigabyte g1 980 costs the same as this now in the uk and if you overclock it, well there you go a better gpu.

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Well the 980 has to get a price drop now. 

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Honestly very underwhelmed by AMD's "new" GPUs. There's nothing in their new line that particularly stands out as far as I can see. I was hoping they would put some scare into Nvidia, to make them go all out, but it doesn't look like it's happening. 

 

Hopefully Zen will give Intel the competition they need to actually advance the high end desktop CPU. They've been providing small improvements for years now, they need something to kick them into releasing something far superior to the generation before it.

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Well the 980 has to get a price drop now. 

 

The 980 already got a price drop from $550 to $500, but it is still more expensive than the 390X at $429

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Im super not impressed with the benchmarks. I know that its a rebrand an everything, but this thing is slower than most of his 290x's. That makes me somewhat angry.

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in america is costs more but in the uk its the same, unlucky fellas ;) id pick the 980, less power consumption and the same price now.

 

edit= its gone back up to £420 but  you can pick up the palit 980 for £360.

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in america is costs more but in the uk its the same, unlucky fellas ;) id pick the 980, less power consumption and the same price now.

 

edit= its gone back up to £420 but  you can pick up the palit 980 for £360.

 

Yup. In the US it makes the 390X the better buy at $429 vs $500

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Im super not impressed with the benchmarks. I know that its a rebrand an everything, but this thing is slower than most of his 290x's. That makes me somewhat angry.

Slower? I have seen nothing of the sort, and that is on pre-release drivers. In fact it's typically faster by a noticeable margin.

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Slower? I have seen nothing of the sort, and that is on pre-release drivers. In fact it's typically faster by a noticeable margin.

not necessarily slower, but less FPS. Thats all. i know its before drivers, but im still not digging that performance.

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Slower? I have seen nothing of the sort, and that is on pre-release drivers. In fact it's typically faster by a noticeable margin.

 

Exactly. No one will buy a 980 now.

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Yea slower than many of his 290x and oc potential other sites got out of it wasn't better either. Oc'd 970 still gonna compete at low resolutions and oc'd 980 still straight better. Well thats kinda the point with the price right?

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Slower? I have seen nothing of the sort, and that is on pre-release drivers. In fact it's typically faster by a noticeable margin.

There are no new drivers. End of story.

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There are no new drivers. End of story.

Oc3d did their review, 390x beat 290x every test and they used disc drivers. He ttl also stated at the end that if you get it day one get the new drivers off the amd website because it will be better than the disc drivers. Sooooo....

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Oc3d did their review, 390x beat 290x every test and they used disc drivers. He ttl also stated at the end that if you get it day one get the new drivers off the amd website because it will be better than the disc drivers. Sooooo....

The drivers are identical to the 290x drivers so what was that again? You won't get better on the titles he is testing.

Anyways literally all this card is is a 290x with a higher factory overclock eating into the personal overclock headroom. That said I love the new msi cooler/backplate redesign and can't wait for it to come out on the 980ti.

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Updated with GTX 980 vs R9 390X benchmarks from Digital Storm!

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Digital Storm GTX 980 vs R9 390X:

 

This is annoying seeing the benchmarks at 4k when the Fury and Fury X are the 4k cards and this is more a 1440p card.

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the gigabyte g1 980 costs the same as this now in the uk and if you overclock it, well there you go a better gpu.

but the r9 390x has 8gb of ram, and cost less, and cant you overclock it as well?

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This is annoying seeing the benchmarks at 4k when the Fury and Fury X are the 4k cards and this is more a 1440p card.

 

AMD is advertising the 390's optimistically as 4K cards, and the 380 as a 1440p card. It may be an attempt to directly respond to AMD's marketing.

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Guru3D 390x, 290x, 980GTX and 970GTX all aftermarket MSI Gaming OC

 

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290x - 9990  http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_290x_gaming_oc_review,22.html

390x - 11686 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,23.html

970  - 10004 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,21.html

980  - 11831 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_980_gaming_oc_review,21.html

 

Overclocked by Guru3d

 

290x - 10721 = 7.3% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_290x_gaming_oc_review,28.html

390x - 12160 = 4.0% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,26.html

970  - 11309 = 13% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,26.html

980  - 13280 = 12.4% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_980_gaming_oc_review,26.html

 

The results may wary from card to card, and from manufacturer to manufacturer. But it seems the 390x has placed itself between the 970 and the 980 in terms of performance, apart from the one off game where the 8GB frame buffer makes a difference over the 3.5 970 or the 4gb 980. As with pricing, the 390x launching at 399USD makes it a much better deal than the 980, as the 100USD saved outweighs the 9.2% Firestrike score in my opinion.

 

I'm also fairly happy about the performance gain over the 290x, 11.6% no OC and 13.4% gain with OC at a launch price 150USD bellow the 290x launch price. Despite the fact that it is a rebrand.

 

I feel this is as good as comparison as it's going to get, all aftermarket cards from the same company from the same product series. And you can clearly see that the 390x overclocks poorly, even if it's an unlucky pick it would still be a poor overclocker with twice the OC gain.

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Guru3D 390x, 290x, 980GTX and 970GTX all aftermarket MSI Gaming OC

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290x - 9990 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_290x_gaming_oc_review,22.html

390x - 11686 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,23.html

970 - 10004 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,21.html

980 - 11831 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_980_gaming_oc_review,21.html

Overclocked by Guru3d

290x - 10721 = 7.3% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_290x_gaming_oc_review,28.html

390x - 12160 = 4.0% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,26.html

970 - 11309 = 13% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,26.html

980 - 13280 = 12.4% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_980_gaming_oc_review,26.html

The results may wary from card to card, and from manufacturer to manufacturer. But it seems the 390x has placed itself between the 970 and the 980 in terms of performance, apart from the one off game where the 8GB frame buffer makes a difference over the 3.5 970 or the 4gb 980. As with pricing, the 390x launching at 399USD makes it a much better deal than the 980, as the 100USD saved outweighs the 9.2% Firestrike score in my opinion.

I'm also fairly happy about the performance gain over the 290x, 11.6% no OC and 13.4% gain with OC at a launch price 150USD bellow the 290x launch price. Despite the fact that it is a rebrand.

I feel this is as good as comparison as it's going to get, all aftermarket cards from the same company from the same product series. And you can clearly see that the 390x overclocks poorly, even if it's an unlucky pick it would still be a poor overclocker with twice the OC gain.

in fairness to that reviewer. He rarely pushes cards near their limit. I'd like to see a 290x 8gb vs 390x 8gb same clock rate comparison and also watercooled(so as to not deal with different cooler issue) max overclock comparison.

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280 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/his_radeon_r9_280_iceq_x2_review,22.html

vs

380 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_380_strix_review,22.html

 

Different manufacturers, but it seems the 380 got a respectable 10-15% performance bump.

 

270 - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_270_review,25.html

vs

370 - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r7_370_strix_review,18.html

 

Neglible performance increase, apart from the 4GB vs 2GB frame buffer. Which won't really do much for such a low performance card.

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Guru3D 390x, 290x, 980GTX and 970GTX all aftermarket MSI Gaming OC

 

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290x - 9990  http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_290x_gaming_oc_review,22.html

390x - 11686 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,23.html

970  - 10004 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,21.html

980  - 11831 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_980_gaming_oc_review,21.html

 

Overclocked by Guru3d

 

290x - 10721 = 7.3% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_290x_gaming_oc_review,28.html

390x - 12160 = 4.0% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_390x_gaming_8g_oc_review,26.html

970  - 11309 = 13% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,26.html

980  - 13280 = 12.4% OC http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_980_gaming_oc_review,26.html

 

The results may wary from card to card, and from manufacturer to manufacturer. But it seems the 390x has placed itself between the 970 and the 980 in terms of performance, apart from the one off game where the 8GB frame buffer makes a difference over the 3.5 970 or the 4gb 980. As with pricing, the 390x launching at 399USD makes it a much better deal than the 980, as the 100USD saved outweighs the 9.2% Firestrike score in my opinion.

 

I'm also fairly happy about the performance gain over the 290x, 11.6% no OC and 13.4% gain with OC at a launch price 150USD bellow the 290x launch price. Despite the fact that it is a rebrand.

 

I feel this is as good as comparison as it's going to get, all aftermarket cards from the same company from the same product series. And you can clearly see that the 390x overclocks poorly, even if it's an unlucky pick it would still be a poor overclocker with twice the OC gain.

 

Damn, that's pretty nice. I'm impressed by the 390x's showing after trashing it before.

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