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I was just researching a build for doing photoshop and things, and i found this:

http://ark.intel.com/compare/80916,80806

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/performance-xeon-e3-1200-hd-graphics-p4000-guide.pdf

 

On paper it shows that the Xeon E3-1246 v3 is 100 Mhz slower, but the gpu is 100 Mhz faster and costs 25$ less? are there any other drawbacks to the xeon here?

 

to anybody that doesnt click the link, i am comparing the i7-4790 and not the K version so dont post "a xeon cant overclock" because this i7 cant either

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If you are buying an i7 you should be buying i7 4790K.

If you are buying a Xeon you should be buying E3-1231 V3.

They both have their places. Both of those you picked are not good value atleast in my opinion.

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If you want ECC then the Xeon, if not the 4790 is slightly faster.

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If you are buying an i7 you should be buying i7 4790K.

If you are buying a Xeon you should be buying E3-1231 V3.

They both have their places. Both of those you picked are not good value atleast in my opinion.

This is also true

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If you are buying an i7 you should be buying i7 4790K.

If you are buying a Xeon you should be buying E3-1231 V3.

They both have their places. Both of those you picked are not good value atleast in my opinion.

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If you are buying an i7 you should be buying i7 4790K.

If you are buying a Xeon you should be buying E3-1231 V3.

They both have their places. Both of those you picked are not good value atleast in my opinion.

Unless he doesn't plan on overclocking, then he can go with the 4790. 

The i7 4790k isn't a one size fits all CPU. 

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Xeon is for servers so... No need for that! ;)

 

Also I am not sure but the FX CPUs are good for working to! :D

 

i7 is probably better than a FX but it costs more! :o

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Unless he doesn't plan on overclocking, then he can go with the 4790. 

The i7 4790k isn't a one size fits all CPU. 

no if you don't plan to overclock you buy a xeon. 1231v3.

 

Xeon is for servers so... No need for that! ;)

Yes, but they are good for computers too. Atleast these ones.

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Xeon is for servers so... No need for that! ;)

 

Also I am not sure but the FX CPUs are good for working to! :D

 

i7 is probably better than a FX but it costs more! :o

No offense, but your post is so much wrong..

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1241 the 1231 is a bit slower

but it's also cheaper, 100mhz is not worth paying 30$ for.

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If you are buying an i7 you should be buying i7 4790K.

If you are buying a Xeon you should be buying E3-1231 V3.

They both have their places. Both of those you picked are not good value atleast in my opinion.

1. this computer is for my dad at work and he does not want to overclock (i have the i7-4790k myself and i love it though)

2. my dad has this great plan,

step 1: buy computer with iGPU

step 2: see if it is good enough

step 3: buy a gpu if it is needed

(kinda works but you are wasting the money you spent on a more expensive chip with an iGPU)

so we want iGPU :)

 

and this will not be gaming... strictly photoshop and lightroom

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no drawbacks.same haswell chip. if you don`t need the integrated gpu look at the xeon 1231 v3

lol ok then... why did intel create the i7-4790? XDDDD its a waste of money

they differ 12 points in passmark... 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

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no ipc difference?

it's like the difference between 4440 and 4460, only possible to notice in benchmarks.

 

lol ok then... why did intel create the i7-4790? XDDDD its a waste of money

to get money from people like you who think it's a good idea to buy the most expensive chip, not overclock it and use igpu.

 

those 30 $ are going towards the iGPU..

i was talking about 1241 vs 1231.
 

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it's like the difference between 4440 and 4460, only possible to notice in benchmarks.

 

to get money from people like you who think it's a good idea to buy the most expensive chip, not overclock it and use igpu.

 

i was talking about 1241 vs 1231.

is there no 1232 (reference to the 4771)

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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is there no 1232 (reference to the 4771)

No. The 1230v3 was haswell xeon. 1231v3 is haswell refresh.

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No offense, but your post is so much wrong..

Whry? :(

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R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600(ASUS Performance Enhancement), 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.4/4.8GHz, 13,7MB cache (Intel 14nm++ FinFET) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC GCN5 56CUs @1.7GHz 12.19 TFLOPS (Samsung 14nm FinFET) R.ID (NimeZ drivers) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 (SAM enabled) / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W / RAM A1 & B1: HyperX DDR4-2666MHz CL13-15-15-30-45-2T "Samsung 8Gbit C-Die" (2x8GB) / RAM A2 & B2: Juhor DDR4-3200MHz CL16-20-20-38-72-2T "SK Hynix 8Gbit MFR" (2x16GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 5: Crucial P1 1000GB M.2 SSD/ Storage 6: Western Digital WD7500BPKX 2.5" HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter (Qualcomm Atheros)

Vishera-X8-9370 | R20 score MC: 1476cb

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter

Godavari-X4-880K | R20 score MC: 810cb

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 95w Thermal Solution / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

Acer Aspire 7738G custom (changed CPU, GPU & Storage)
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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600, 2-cores, 2-threads, 2.4GHz, 3MB cache (Intel 45nm) / GPU: ATi Radeon HD 4570 515MB DDR2 (T.S.M.C. 55nm) / RAM: DDR2-1066MHz CL7-7-7-20-1T (2x2GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Storage: Crucial BX500 480GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5" SSD

Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek Dimensity 700 (T.S.M.C 7nm) - Cherry Mobile Aqua S10 Pro 5G
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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Whry? :(

Right, so... Xeons are meant for servers, but you can use it in 'regular' PC's too.

And i7 CPU's are waaaay better than FX CPU's.

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lol ok then... why did intel create the i7-4790? XDDDD its a waste of money

they differ 12 points in passmark... 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

If you buy the 4790 over the 1231v3 you also have to buy a GPU. For someone in your position who doesn't need a dedicated GPU, the 4790 is perfect and would cost about the same as the 1231v3 with a GPU. And to that person paying a little extra for the k series chip with overclocking would be stupid, they would be paying extra for something they don't need and would never use.

 

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If you need a GPU anyway but aren't planning on recording, streaming or overclocking 1231v3 = perfect

If you don't need a GPU and don't plan on overclocking 4790 = perfect

4790k is for people who want everything: it has all the features.

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it's like the difference between 4440 and 4460, only possible to notice in benchmarks.

 

to get money from people like you who think it's a good idea to buy the most expensive chip, not overclock it and use igpu.

 
i was talking about 1241 vs 1231.
 

 

lol i looked up the 1241 and you are paying 25$ for 100 Mhz... another ripoff xD

list of good cpus:

i7-4790k 

E3-1246 v3

E3-1231 v3

am i right?

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If you buy the 4790 over the 1231v3 you also have to buy a GPU. For someone in your position who doesn't need a dedicated GPU, the 4790 is perfect and would cost about the same as the 1231v3 with a GPU. And to that person paying a little extra for the k series chip with overclocking would be stupid, they would be paying extra for something they don't need and would never use.

 

TL;DR

If you need a GPU anyway but aren't planning on recording, streaming or overclocking 1231v3 = perfect

If you don't need a GPU and don't plan on overclocking 4790 = perfect

4790k is for people who want everything: it has all the features.

i wonder why i have an i7-4790k in my system hmmm xDDDD

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