Switching from an FX 8350 to an I5

[tomison25]

Being gaming on my current rig for the past year and a half and my Arma 3 frame rates are unbearable.

 

I'm also pretty sure my CPU is bottlenecking my R9 290. 

 

I'm not sure if overclocking would help much. I have a hyper 212.

 

Temps on the 290 are not the issue. They never rise above 65 with my new cooler.

 

It's an expensive jump, new mobo and cpu, and I do not want to waste my money.

 

Should I wait for the next gen of Intel processors or should i start saving my pennies now?

 

 

[REX.exe]

Skylake won't bring much to the table. the 4690K would be a great investment, you'll need a Z97 board aswell. And yes, your 8350 is bottlenecking your 290 quite heavily, you'll see a significant improvement with an i5 (4690K)

[KayTees]

Being gaming on my current rig for the past year and a half and my Arma 3 frame rates are unbearable.

 

I'm also pretty sure my CPU is bottlenecking my R9 290. 

 

I'm not sure if overclocking would help much. I have a hyper 212.

 

Temps on the 290 are not the issue. They never rise above 65 with my new cooler.

 

It's an expensive jump, new mobo and cpu, and I do not want to waste my money.

 

Should I wait for the next gen of Intel processors or should i start saving my pennies now?

Is there a drop in performance right now? What games are you playing? If the FX isn't limiting you right now, you could probably wait.

[Castdeath97]

Judging by the typical intel behavior newer chips barely perform better than their predecessors, so might as well get your self a good deal now. Maybe a i5 4460 and H97 or H81 board might be a good option if you don't have the money. 

[tomison25]

Is there a drop in performance right now? What games are you playing? If the FX isn't limiting you right now, you could probably wait.

Arma 3 is unplayable at ultra with only 15 or so FPS, even turning down the settings to around medium/high will result in an unstable framerate.

 

Planetside 2 goes between 30 and 60 fps.

 

TF2 starts at 100fps+ but drops to 20-30 when gibs start flying in late game.

[KayTees]

Arma 3 is unplayable at ultra with only 15 or so FPS, even turning down the settings to around medium/high will result in an unstable framerate.

 

Planetside 2 goes between 30 and 60 fps.

 

TF2 starts at 100fps+ but drops to 20-30 when gibs start flying in late game.

Welp, seems light investing in a 4690k would give a very high performance gain. R9 290 with i5's are usually a perfect pair.

[DimasRMDO]

Arma 3 is unplayable at ultra with only 15 or so FPS, even turning down the settings to around medium/high will result in an unstable framerate.

 

Planetside 2 goes between 30 and 60 fps.

 

TF2 starts at 100fps+ but drops to 20-30 when gibs start flying in late game.

Check your GPU usage, if it's not used completely (below 100% most of the time) then it's CPU bottleneck and yeah it can be solved by upgrading it. Upgrading to i5 really helps you, i5-4690K would be my recommendation if you can afford it. If you can't then i5-4460 is okay, still good.

[snkmoorthy]

subbed, please report back results.

[KenJimmY]

-snip-

PlanetSide 2 got a performance update this past week , i'm getting 60 constantly in big fights , sometimes with drops in 30's but mainly 60 with shadows off

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/36i9gs/praise_multithreading/

[Faceman]

For the games you play, definitely want to switch to Intel. I would wait for Skylake though as it should bring about a reported 8-15% increase in IPC, and has the potential to be an incredible overclocker if they solder the die. Not to mention, DDR4, not too big of a deal now, but maybe soon.

Sell the FX8 + mobo and recoup some money. You could also go for Devils Canyon now if you find a good deal, or if you live near a Microcenter. But, seeing as Skylake is just a few months away, I would wait.

[Faceman]

subbed, please report back results.

I can already tell you how it ends. No more/much less frequent frame drops and R9 290 usage at 99% in all games.

[tomison25]

I am also running a 900p monitor. I'm guessing a 1080p upgrade (already ordered) would also help too?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Arma 3 is unplayable at ultra with only 15 or so FPS, even turning down the settings to around medium/high will result in an unstable framerate.

 

Planetside 2 goes between 30 and 60 fps.

 

TF2 starts at 100fps+ but drops to 20-30 when gibs start flying in late game.

Those are CPU driven games, and yes moving to a faster chip will improve your performance in such titles...and no the FX-83XX is no match for an R9 290 or any other ''higher-end'' graphics solution unless you game at like 1440p and aim for 30 or 40FPS.

[Nena Trinity]

Arma is poorly optimized, but the FX line isnt really the best CPUs for gaming also so its a bad mix yes. Do not bother unless Arma is you primary and favorite game. =D

 

I am also running a 900p monitor. I'm guessing a 1080p upgrade (already ordered) would also help too?

 

At 900p the CPU & GPU is a bit overkill...  

[Zackfoo]

I just upgraded from fx 6300 to i5 4690k. 4690k is a big boost but comparing to fx 8350 I don't really think so. 8350 is actually a pretty good cpu which should mot bottleneck 290. Maybe try overclocking it until 5ghz with a better cooler?

[Guest]

Don't wait, definitely not worth the wait.

[Embattled]

Don't wait, the Z97 platform is at a pretty good price rn and the 4690K will last you years(most probably) if you are just gaming. 

[TheCaptain53]

I'm also pretty sure my CPU is bottlenecking my R9 290. 

 

I'm not sure if overclocking would help much. I have a hyper 212.

It would be worth overclocking your CPU before upgrading entirely. You may be limited with the hyper 212, but I've never had this pair so cannot comment objectively on it.

If that doesn't work, definitely upgrade. I recently got the i5-4690K and I now absolutely swear by it.

[tomison25]

My stock temps on my fx 8350 are not so good after checking in hwmonitor. 60+ when gaming. I know for a fact the 8350 throttles at 61c. This is strange since I have a dual fan config on my 212.

 

Checked the cooler and its definitely secure. The thermal paste should be well applied, should i open it up and check the paste spread?

[tomison25]

Idle Temps and 100% load temps

 

What am i supposed to be looking at? The package temps under the CPU name or the CPU temps above that?

 

http://imgur.com/vemVPm5,tP9So8h#0

[vembutech]

[tomison25]

andddd

 

the differences seem pretty minor overall

 

I dont mind lowering gfx settings

 

I don't play arma that much, it was more a point of reference

 

time to get a better cooler and start oc'ing 

[WastedEmu]

Being gaming on my current rig for the past year and a half and my Arma 3 frame rates are unbearable.

 

I'm also pretty sure my CPU is bottlenecking my R9 290. 

 

I'm not sure if overclocking would help much. I have a hyper 212.

 

Temps on the 290 are not the issue. They never rise above 65 with my new cooler.

 

It's an expensive jump, new mobo and cpu, and I do not want to waste my money.

 

Should I wait for the next gen of Intel processors or should i start saving my pennies now?

 

I had the same setup you did up until 2 weeks ago, My 8350 was bottlenecking my R9 290 in games like GTA 5, and many others. I upgraded to the Xeon E3-1231v3 rather than the I5 becuase I don't need to overclock and I wanted hyperthreading for some reason.. lol

 

if you can wait for the next gen on Intel CPU's might as well wait, I just wasn't patient enough to wait the month or so, but it is 100% worth it. best investment I've made with switching, absolutely love the performance gain

 

 

In GTA 5 I was getting between 30-50 FPS even with an OC to 4.5 Ghz on the FX-8350, and now with the Xeon I do not dip below 60.

[Sintezza]

ARMA3 single or multiplayer?

Which resolution?.

 

You can also do some tweaks to a game config file, to make it better run on multicore cpu´s.

But i dont know exactly how, but you could do some google hits.

 

I have tested ARMA3 single player 1080p ultra settings, with some filters turn down, and i get arround 45fps without any issue.

Ofc not great, but im GPU limmited mainaly.

[sgloux3470]

Being gaming on my current rig for the past year and a half and my Arma 3 frame rates are unbearable.

 

I'm also pretty sure my CPU is bottlenecking my R9 290. 

 

I'm not sure if overclocking would help much. I have a hyper 212.

 

Temps on the 290 are not the issue. They never rise above 65 with my new cooler.

 

It's an expensive jump, new mobo and cpu, and I do not want to waste my money.

 

Should I wait for the next gen of Intel processors or should i start saving my pennies now?

Start saving now and then buy what fits your budget when you have the money.