good first car?

[terrytek]

The UK is a completely difference place  A v6 for your first car - insurance would be INSANE

 

 

gimme a shout if you need help

Seriously? Holy, balls, how much more compared to a 4 banger? What about Mazdaspeed 6? Still 4 banger.

[ShadowCaptain]

Seriously? Holy, balls, how much more compared to a 4 banger? What about Mazdaspeed 6? Still 4 banger.

 

Not sure without checking, but I imagine insurance on a 1.0 petrol to be abuot £1000 and probably £2-3k on a V6  - especially for somebody with 0 years no claims!!!

 

I have like 5/6 years no claims and insuring a V6 for me is still around £1000-£1500 a year

[SeriouslyMikey]

Why not one of these? My first car.

 

£999. 

Insurance: £1,000 a year. 

Tax: £120 a year. 

 

[terrytek]

Not sure without checking, but I imagine insurance on a 1.0 petrol to be abuot £1000 and probably £2-3k on a V6  - especially for somebody with 0 years no claims!!!

 

I have like 5/6 years no claims and insuring a V6 for me is still around £1000-£1500 a year

Why is it V6s are crazy expensive for insurance  there? I don't understand. In some cases, in America, it's cheaper to actually insure a V6 than a 4 banger.

[ShadowCaptain]

Why is it V6s are crazy expensive for insurance  there? I don't understand. In some cases, in America, it's cheaper to actually insure a V6 than a 4 banger.

 

Because we dont commonly drive V6/V8 cars here in the UK outside of high performance saloons and sports cars

 

If a first time driver is buying a V6 the insurance company will assume they are a "boy racer" and more likely to crash - also some small cars that are consider "hot hatches" can have high insurance for new drivers as they are more likely to be involved in an accident

[SeriouslyMikey]

Because we dont commonly drive V6/V8 cars here in the UK outside of high performance saloons and sports cars

 

If a first time driver is buying a V6 the insurance company will assume they are a "boy racer" and more likely to crash - also some small cars that are consider "hot hatches" can have high insurance for new drivers as they are more likely to be involved in an accident

 

You forgot to mention that the UK is civilised. 

 

 

 

 

 

[terrytek]

Because we dont commonly drive V6/V8 cars here in the UK outside of high performance saloons and sports cars

 

If a first time driver is buying a V6 the insurance company will assume they are a "boy racer" and more likely to crash - also some small cars that are consider "hot hatches" can have high insurance for new drivers as they are more likely to be involved in an accident

So, i'm assuming a Mazdaspeed 6/3 wouldn't fit under either of those catergories? And plus, i don't know why they would consider a V6 Mazda 6 a "boy racer". Looks very civilized to me.

[ShadowCaptain]

You forgot to mention that the UK is civilised. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Goes without saing, *sips tea from china cup with pinkie out*

 

So, i'm assuming a Mazdaspeed 6/3 wouldn't fit under either of those catergories? And plus, i don't know why they would consider a V6 Mazda 6 a "boy racer". Looks very civilized to me.

 

Mazdas are civilised, but its not about looks, without doing a quote its hard to say, but honestly a learner in the UK doesn't need  powerful V6 - a litte 1 - 1.5l car will be fast enough, our roads are very small and tight, - I rarely go on a motorway or big highway where I can let my car rip - mostly tight country lanes, or cramped town centres

[SeriouslyMikey]

So, i'm assuming a Mazdaspeed 6/3 wouldn't fit under either of those catergories? And plus, i don't know why they would consider a V6 Mazda 6 a "boy racer". Looks very civilized to me.

 

As ShadowCaptain said, we don't need large cars here, to be honest. Our roads are usually small and in some cases, when cars are parked to the side, there's no room for two lanes of passing traffic. A large car would be more of an annoyance here unless you do a lot of motorway travelling and live in more of an open area.  

 

EDIT: I don't even see the point in getting a BMW or a car of that size here. A good hatchback is really all you need in the UK and which is why they're so popular. Plus, insurance and tax is cheaper on small hatchbacks. 

[Tim Drake]

SNIP

Was thinking one of those, they seem like great value

[SeriouslyMikey]

Was thinking one of those, they seem like great value

 

So far it's a good runner, a real steal for the price I got it for. Just need to remember how narrow the drive way to my house it. I may or may not have damaged the wing mirror on the left.  

[Tim Drake]

So far it's a good runner, a real steal for the price I got it for. Just need to remember how narrow the drive way to my house it. I may or may not have damaged the wing mirror on the left.

Duct Tape is your fwend

[SeriouslyMikey]

Duct Tape is your fwend

 

Way ahead of you.

I'm not the most careful person when it comes to vehicles so far. Week one of owning a scooter, it went into the back of a car and I decided to run away and faced those consequences. 

[Jumper118]

Not sure without checking, but I imagine insurance on a 1.0 petrol to be abuot £1000 and probably £2-3k on a V6  - especially for somebody with 0 years no claims!!!

 

I have like 5/6 years no claims and insuring a V6 for me is still around £1000-£1500 a year

maybe in harragate. in leeds its more like £2-3K for a 1l petrol or £5-8k for a v6. i'm paying £3K for my 2.2 diesel.  the v6 version of the mondeo was £5500 a year

[ShadowCaptain]

maybe in harragate. in leeds its more like £2-3K for a 1l petrol or £5-8k for a v6. i'm paying £3K for my 2.2 diesel.  the v6 version of the mondeo was £5500 a year

 

Really? I know people in leeds who pay less than that .... but yeah it really does depend on the area!

[FireFox]

The insurance may be a little more but I would greatly consider a Honda Civic. You look after it the thing will last many years if you don't treat it like a piece of shit, ohh one more thing what ever car you buy always replace the cambelt unless you have paperwork with information regarding the last replacement.

[harrynowl]

But aren't diesel cars less reliable since diesel is a dirty fuel?

My dad has seemed to have that experience anyway where he has more things going wrong with his diesel than he did his petrol.

If you're doing lots of town / short distance driving yes because diesels benefit from long runs to be maintained properly. Plus small diesel engines have no power unless they're given a turbo.

 

I personally drive a Mitsubishi Colt CZ1 (1.1 Petrol) 56 plate (registered feb07) which cost me just under £900 to insure with Marmalade insurance. Do they offer insurance in northern Ireland?

 

Anyway if you're looking at cars if it's over 80k make sure it has service history so you can see if the cam belt has been changed (you want it done at ~80k) and check the condition of the wheels. Try avoid higher end models of cars which have lots of electronics as they're bound to fail.

 

And try only buy a car with a new MOT... usually if someones ditching it right before MOT renewal there's a reason.

[FireFox]

If you're doing lots of town / short distance driving yes because diesels benefit from long runs to be maintained properly. Plus small diesel engines have no power unless they're given a turbo.

 

I personally drive a Mitsubishi Colt CZ1 (1.1 Petrol) 56 plate (registered feb07) which cost me just under £900 to insure with Marmalade insurance. Do they offer insurance in northern Ireland?

 

Anyway if you're looking at cars if it's over 80k make sure it has service history so you can see if the cam belt has been changed (you want it done at ~80k) and check the condition of the wheels. Try avoid higher end models of cars which have lots of electronics as they're bound to fail.

 

And try only buy a car with a new MOT... usually if someones ditching it right before MOT renewal there's a reason.

 

Diesels are generally OK around town, if they're a little newer and since you're not using more of the engines capability you can clog the DPF's quicker which will result in lower performance but town driving won't reduce reliability.

[ImBleu]

I'm turning 18 but I'm waiting until after college to get my first car. I don't care what anyone says, I'm buying a Tesla Model S, or Model X as my first car.

[harrynowl]

I'm turning 18 but I'm waiting until after college to get my first car. I don't care what anyone says, I'm buying a Tesla Model S, or Model X as my first car.

I wish I had that kind of money to drop on a car

[FireFox]

I'm turning 18 but I'm waiting until after college to get my first car. I don't care what anyone says, I'm buying a Tesla Model S, or Model X as my first car.

 

And how are you going to do that?

[Tim Drake]

The insurance may be a little more but I would greatly consider a Honda Civic. You look after it the thing will last many years if you don't treat it like a piece of shit, ohh one more thing what ever car you buy always replace the cambelt unless you have paperwork with information regarding the last replacement.

 

 

If you're doing lots of town / short distance driving yes because diesels benefit from long runs to be maintained properly. Plus small diesel engines have no power unless they're given a turbo.

 

I personally drive a Mitsubishi Colt CZ1 (1.1 Petrol) 56 plate (registered feb07) which cost me just under £900 to insure with Marmalade insurance. Do they offer insurance in northern Ireland?

 

Anyway if you're looking at cars if it's over 80k make sure it has service history so you can see if the cam belt has been changed (you want it done at ~80k) and check the condition of the wheels. Try avoid higher end models of cars which have lots of electronics as they're bound to fail.

 

And try only buy a car with a new MOT... usually if someones ditching it right before MOT renewal there's a reason.

What's this cambelt you guys are talking about and why does it need replaced?

 

Still a complete noob

[FireFox]

What's this cambelt you guys are talking about and why does it need replaced?

 

Still a complete noob

 

A cambelt (if applicable) connects the camshaft to the crackshaft via the correct timing of each which operates the valves which then allows air/fuel mixture into the combustion chamber and allows exhaust out. Most engines are interference heads which means if the cambelt fails the pistons will contact the valves and you'll need a new engine. Recommendation is to replace it, they aren't expensive. I bought one for my 2003 (53 Plate) Suzuki Alto which also included the tensioner bearing for £66 compared to over £500 for the engine if it failed.

 

Hope that makes sense

[Tim Drake]

A cambelt (if applicable) connects the camshaft to the crackshaft via the correct timing of each which operates the valves which then allows air/fuel mixture into the combustion chamber and allows exhaust out. Most engines are interference heads which means if the cambelt fails the pistons will contact the valves and you'll need a new engine. Recommendation is to replace it, they aren't expensive. I bought one for my 2003 (53 Plate) Suzuki Alto which also included the tensioner bearing for £66 compared to over £500 for the engine if it failed.

 

Hope that makes sense

Dumb it down plz, I got most of it

[FireFox]

Dumb it down plz, I got most of it

 

Hopefully this will explain it to your satisfaction