[Updated] Verizon Scolds FiOS User for Consuming 7 TB Every Month

[Sunako]

that user is clearly running a server from home  and it not allowed by the tos he has no right to say any thing unless he upgrade to the business class connection.

 

 

Restrictions on Use. The Service is a consumer grade service and is not designed for or intended to be used for any commercial purpose. Except as otherwise set forth in this Agreement, you may not resell, re-provision or rent the Service, (either for a fee or without charge) or allow third parties to use the Service via wired, wireless or other means. For example, you may not provide Internet access to third parties through a wired or wireless connection or use the Service to facilitate public Internet access (such as through a Wi-Fi hotspot), use it for high volume purposes, or engage in similar activities that constitute such use (commercial or non-commercial). If you subscribe to a Broadband Service, you may connect multiple computers/devices within a single home to your modem and/or router to access the Service through a single Verizon-issued IP address, and if available through the Service, you may permit guests to access the Internet through your Service’s Wi-Fi capabilities. You also may not exceed the bandwidth usage limitations that Verizon may establish from time to time for the Service, or use the Service to host any type of server. Violation of this Section may result in bandwidth restrictions on your Service or suspension or termination of your Service.

http://www.verizon.com/about/terms/

[TheSLSAMG]

If you dig through their ToS you don't actually find anything, they make open ended legal statements so they can do what they want.

 

Source

Well damn, apparently I haven't been allowed to run Minecraft servers at all.

[rambi36]

This is the second time I saw an article on here today about how corrupt Verizon is. I get it, they are pieces of shit that take peoples money, but they also do provide pretty decent service. When my dad switched to Optimum our internet speed wasn't as fast (mainly due to Optimum being cable and not fiber) and more frequent disconnects.

[AMICLG]

No fucking way it's using that much, unless he's running dozens of machines.

I do 1-2TB a month just on one pc alone with a 50/5 connection from TWC so 7TB a month doesn't seem very hard with speeds exceeding 150Mbps.

[TopWargamer]

Looks like Verizon has lowered it from 77TB to 7TB, heh.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/23/fios-customer-discovers-the-limits-of-unlimited-data-77-tb-in-month/

 

Seriously though, they need to make up their mind. We Fios customers are technically paying for unlimited data, and that's what they advertise. There is no given data cap. If no data cap is present, why shouldn't I be able to use 7TB or even 77TB a month? That's Verizon's fault for not stating what the cap is. 

[Guest]

I currently use my mobile 3g ($2/day for unlimited text/calls/data within aus) and they hate it when i use more than 1gb/day.

Usually throttling my service until I ring up and complain or re-connect to the closest tower, although admittedly I have used 134gb this month.

I'm sure if you used 23tb with optus they would love you though, the bill would be ridiculous.

$90 a month for 30mbit or $105 for 100mbit

[Mew]

lol an acceptable amount according to verizon is probably 150GB

Well, I think the data cap should increase as the speed tier increases. The person in the article has a 500 up and 500 down line, so they should have a higher cap. However, using that amount of data, even for the benefit of humanity, is a bit insane.

[Dabombinable]

If you dig through their ToS you don't actually find anything, they make open ended legal statements so they can do what they want.

 

Source

Well if its an unlimited plan, then he didn't exceed the bandwidth usage limitations. Its a bit confusing as they offer unlimited plans (which mean that you have an unlimited quota), then they add to their TOS "For example, you may not provide Internet access to third parties through a wired or wireless connection or use the Service to facilitate public Internet access (such as through a Wi-Fi hotspot), use it for high volume purposes". That really makes things confusing and implying that an unlimited plan can be limited means that they don't know what they're doing, or they are falsely advertising.

[BOT Edward]

$90 a month for 30mbit or $105 for 100mbit

 

I'll have to invest in this when I move houses in a couple months.

Do you know how long the contract would be for? (sorry for the 20 questions).

 

Using mobile data isn't the most reliable, I often get quite a large amount of packet loss which makes online games like CS very interesting :lol:

[Dabombinable]

$90 a month for 30mbit or $105 for 100mbit

*sigh* and to think I'm stuck on 10/1 ADSL 2+ @ 100GB for $50. (It was 75GB with 5GB added at no extra cost every 6 months up to 150GB, but they decided to change their policy/plans. good because I needed the extra 25GB to get me through the month, bad because now I have to watch what I do to not go over the limit-I miss the doubled quota they gave out during summer).

[Misanthrope]

I live in Mexico, shitty internet but you can use as much as you want or can.

 

It's not all shitty, depends on where you live you can get fiber up to 200mbps up AND down from Axtel for example, here in Monterrey I get fiber from Telmex but it's capped severely since I'm on their lowest available plan which gives me 20/5mbps

 

Back on topic, The cap wouldn't be so unreasonable if he wasn't paying 315 fucking dollars. I'm sure you can get that much bandwidth allowance and perhaps more if you were to buy a server. And no the issue isn't "you're downloading too much" the issue is Verizon fucking selling a speed they can't fucking sustain on their infrastructure and betting that nobody will ever get anywhere near what they're paying for in terms of usage.

 

Data caps are fucking stupid, the internet is not a finite resource, given proper infrastructure you can sustain those transfers and more.

[Dabombinable]

I'll have to invest in this when I move houses in a couple months.

Do you know how long the contract would be for? (sorry for the 20 questions).

 

Using mobile data isn't the most reliable, I often get quite a large amount of packet loss which makes online games like CS very interesting :lol:

Mobile data, the bane of everyone in a internet blackspot-which normally exist because Telstra forgets that we aren't in the 80's anymore and actually have a things such as computers and the internet.

[Opcode]

We'll just give you a high speed line and cap you to 7 TB, because we are Comcast Verizon and that's what we do! Honestly I will stick to paying TimeWarner ridiculous pricing just to have no data caps at all. Data caps should just be done away with this day in age on all fronts.

[RagnarokDel]

Apparently, a user of FiOS (F iOS? lol) was sent this letter:

for consuming 7 terabytes of data every month.

 

 

I'm not sure which side I want to side with- Verizon because this is a bit excessive, or the user because you should be able to do whatever you want with your connection however you want to do it.

 

What are your thoughts?

 

Source: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Scolds-FiOS-User-For-Consuming-Seven-Terabytes-Monthly-133560

Wait they sell a 500 mbps service but they dont expect people to use a lot of data? Really? Let me get dat 315$ a month service so I can check my emails.

 

FYI at 500 mbps, it takes something like 30 hours to download 7 tb.

 

 

 

 

When Canada was trying to institute data caps, I was using about 500 GB/month at my peak of anime/video game downloading.  We're talking reinstalling my steam library multiple times, downloading dozens of anime shows in HD quality, tons of netflix streaming and that was just me.  My sister and my parents both used netflix, and my sister downloaded her own games and anime and shit.

There's literally games on steam, today, that require more then the maximum bandwidth cap on basic high speed internet. ( depending on ISP it's often 50 or 60 gb)

[Dabombinable]

Wait they sell a 500 mbps service but they dont expect people to use a lot of data? Really? Let me get dat 315$ a month service so I can check my emails.

 

FYI at 500 mbps, it takes something like 30 hours to download 7 tb.

I'd almost kill for that kind of internet service.

[BOT Edward]

Mobile data, the bane of everyone in a internet blackspot-which normally exist because Telstra forgets that we aren't in the 80's anymore and actually have a things such as computers and the internet.

 

Usually they put ridiculous prices on mobile broadband, like Telstra used to have $2/mb. Just in case you had appsync turned on :lol:

[Dabombinable]

Usually they put ridiculous prices on mobile broadband, like Telstra used to have $2/mb. Just in case you had appsync turned on :lol:

Example of Telstra's shittyness: (editing)

• 15GB/month for $85 or $5.67 per GB
• 25GB/month for $150 or $6 per GB

That's a quarter of the data per month I have, for 3 times the price.

[Comrade_Dave]

Most I have done is about 3-4TB in 1 month.

[Guest]

I'll have to invest in this when I move houses in a couple months.

Do you know how long the contract would be for? (sorry for the 20 questions).

 

Using mobile data isn't the most reliable, I often get quite a large amount of packet loss which makes online games like CS very interesting :lol:

http://www.optus.com.au/shop/promotions/unlimited-broadband-bundle-deals?SID=con:bundl:Netflx:bundl:afeat:ip24un:none

 

Plus the $15 speed boost

[deadher0]

If it's in the ToS, technically Verizon is right.

... and technically, if it also says in their ToS, "We reserve the right to be complete dicks", technically Verizon is right.

[PerfectTemplar]

Meanwhile Optus Australia don't care if you munch 23TB on cable.

Which is why Optus Cable suffers from massive congestion problems.

 

Depending on the CVC of the infrastructure you will find that consuming 7TB a month is very expensive for an ISP and is likely to make them lose a profit. Consuming so much data and using that amount of bandwidth is meant for business plans. Seems like the only way to use 7 TB in one month would be to use it for business purposes.

[Comrade_Dave]

yes..."business" purposes...

[zacRupnow]

So how is Comcast so bad, we dont have Data caps, or send these letters to our customers.

Cough* shit speeds, throttling, data caps, impossible to cancel, no real customer service... *Cough

[Nineshadow]

... and technically, if it also says in their ToS, "We reserve the right to be complete dicks", technically Verizon is right.

"You also may not exceed the bandwidth usage limitations that Verizon may establish from time to time for the Service"

 

Doesn't this guy have an unlimited plan?

[Str_Mape]

Most I have done is about 3-4TB in 1 month.

I think for me it's around 5-7, a little over 700GB was done in a day