Increasing Overclock

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Hey everyone! I want to overclock my 3570k to the max (relatively) safe speed. I'm currently at 4.5ghz with 1.296V. My goal is to possibly hit 5.0ghz and so are there any tips that you would recommend? Also what is the easiest way to take a picture of my bios instead of taking a picture of my monitor...

I followed this guide when I overclocked before: http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards

 

 

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Hey everyone! I want to overclock my 3570k to the max (relatively) safe speed. I'm currently at 4.5ghz with 1.296V. My goal is to possibly hit 5.0ghz and so are there any tips that you would recommend? Also what is the easiest way to take a picture of my bios instead of taking a picture of my monitor...

I followed this guide when I overclocked before: http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards

4.5GHZ Temps Stress Test.png

 

Geez, well first off I wish you luck on that 5ghz OC. What cooling solution are you using? Usually, anything above 1.34v is not recommended if you're using air cooling.

[Jambls]

Get a better cooler. That hyper 212 evo will not do the job if you want to go any higher.

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^ Right, I should've scanned OP's sig lol. Yes, to get that 5ghz OC you'll have to upgrade your cooling solution. I'd suggest try water-based cooling for this one.

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Geez, well first off I wish you luck on that 5ghz OC. What cooling solution are you using? Usually, anything above 1.34v is not recommended if you're using air cooling.

 

Haha i like to dream big sometimes   I know I'm most likely not going to hit 5.0ghz tho... 

I'm using a 212 EVO at its stock settings and so I'm willing to make a more aggressive fan curve to keep my cpu cool. 

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Get a better cooler. That hyper 212 evo will not do the job if you want to go any higher.

hmm ok.

 

^ Right, I should've scanned OP's sig lol. Yes, to get that 5ghz OC you'll have to upgrade your cooling solution. I'd suggest try water-based cooling for this one.

I don't have room to install an AIO unless I mount the fans outside of the case... Do you think I'll be able to hit 4.8? Even at 4.5, I'm getting stutters from CPU bottleneck in BF4 64 person multiplayer. 

[EpIcPoNaGe]

I may not have overclocked my 3570k that efficiently either tho because I'm overclocking through turbo boost. It might be stable at a higher frequency with the same voltage as right now if I didn't use turbo.

[Taswell]

i dont want to brag or anything but i can run that fast without overclocking

 

 

 

 

 

(yes i know; it totally doesn't apply here, I just wanted to brag about the one thing amd has over intel right now =P )

[CalebTheEternal]

My H100i Couldn't even handle 4.7 I think you're going to have a hard time. But I did have the 3770K instead of the 3570K if that makes any difference, they are both Ivy bridge which get hot. 

[L A]

I don't have room to install an AIO unless I mount the fans outside of the case... Do you think I'll be able to hit 4.8? Even at 4.5, I'm getting stutters from CPU bottleneck in BF4 64 person multiplayer. 

 

Right so I think 4.8 might be more feasible? Well before you go out and buy a new cooling solution, try and work with what you've got. I say, keep cranking up the clock speed and voltage--but stop when you get to 1.34v. Also stop when your load temp goes to or above 85c. I know that Ivy bridge max temp can go up to 105c but let's not push it to go that high.

 

So do that, report your progress here. Heck, maybe you don't have to replace that 212 evo.

 

Btw. Yeah, it's good to dream big--don't stop

[EpIcPoNaGe]

i dont want to brag or anything but i can run that fast without overclocking

 

 

 

 

 

(yes i know; it totally doesn't apply here, I just wanted to brag about the one thing amd has over intel right now =P )

 

Haha sometimes I wonder if I should try out AMD 

 

Right so I think 4.8 might be more feasible? Well before you go out and buy a new cooling solution, try and work with what you've got. I say, keep cranking up the clock speed and voltage--but stop when you get to 1.34v. Also stop when your load temp goes to or above 85c. I know that Ivy bridge max temp can go up to 105c but let's not push it to go that high.

 

So do that, report your progress here. Heck, maybe you don't have to replace that 212 evo.

 

Btw. Yeah, it's good to dream big--don't stop 

 

Ok, thanks for the tips!    

I probably wouldn't get a new cooling solution anyway. I'm not a fan of AIO solutions and would rather go all air or custom watercooling.

I'm pretty sure I should change the thermal paste as I feel like the temps were higher than they were before... I just don't have alcohol to clean it off.  <_<

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Haha sometimes I wonder if I should try out AMD 

 

 

Ok, thanks for the tips!    

I probably wouldn't get a new cooling solution anyway. I'm not a fan of AIO solutions and would rather go all air or custom watercooling.

I'm pretty sure I should change the thermal paste as I feel like the temps were higher than they were before... I just don't have alcohol to clean it off.  <_<

 

No problem. That's what we're here for! Well there are also better air based solutions for your rig. If you're interested we can give you a list based on your budget.

[EpIcPoNaGe]

No problem. That's what we're here for! Well there are also better air based solutions for your rig. If you're interested we can give you a list based on your budget.

 

A list of better air based solutions would be cool (pun intended  ). I'm unsure if I'll be able to upgrade my cooler tho as Its not that easy to take apart a desktop in a dorm room...  :mellow:

[L A]

A list of better air based solutions would be cool (pun intended  ). I'm unsure if I'll be able to upgrade my cooler tho as Its not that easy to take apart a desktop in a dorm room...  :mellow:

 

Bring your desktop to your lounge Upgrade there and get all the honeyss~ If you know what I mean. They'll flock to see dat 4.5+ghz clocking beaaast.

 

Anyways, what's your price range?

[Godlygamer23]

(yes i know; it totally doesn't apply here, I just wanted to brag about the one thing amd has over intel right now =P )

It's a pretty meaningless victory.

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Bring your desktop to your lounge   Upgrade there and get all the honeyss~ If you know what I mean. They'll flock to see dat 4.5+ghz clocking beaaast.

 

Anyways, what's your price range?

 

I think I may be crazy....  :rolleyes:

 

[Mew]

I think I may be crazy....  :rolleyes:

 

4.7ghz Temps.png

 

It looks like you're running into a lot of vdroop. You're feeding it ~1.4v but it's only getting 1.266v. At those temps, assuming that you have an ambient temp of around 20-25C, you shouldn't go any higher unless you can lower the temperature in your room significantly

[EpIcPoNaGe]

I don't really have a price range. Probably max of a $100 because I know that the Noctua D15 is like that much... 

I'm pretty sure 4.7 is the max overclock for my cpu tho because when i try 4.8, it doesn't even fully load Windows even if I put 1.43V...  <_< So i'm not sure if its worth getting a better cooler. 

 

I've only ran the stress test for the last hour but it seems quite stable. Just the temps are pretty high. I'm thinking I'm going to try dropping the current voltage to around 1.395 and see if its still "stable" around there.

 

@harrynowl @KingCry You're the two oc people that come to mind. Do you have any tips/suggestions for my oc? Sorry if i'm bothering you 

[EpIcPoNaGe]

It looks like you're running into a lot of vdroop. You're feeding it ~1.4v but it's only getting 1.266v. At those temps, assuming that you have an ambient temp of around 20-25C, you shouldn't go any higher unless you can lower the temperature in your room significantly

 

1.266V? I'm not that knowledgeable of overclocking so could you explain vdroop? Thanks 

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Darn, it seems like its barely stable. I'm using the computer while its being stressed and chrome just gave the "it's dead jim" error. Also my CAM software occasionally crashes...

[EpIcPoNaGe]

BTW does anyone know what the different temperatures represent in the first temperature settings in my screenshot?

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I don't really have a price range. Probably max of a $100 because I know that the Noctua D15 is like that much... 

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Alright, well here are my suggestions (all prices are in USD since you live in the Bae Bay Area):

 

BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 ($89.99)

BeQuiet Dark Rock 3 ($69.99) <- I personally have a DarkRock2. I love it. Check my rig link on my sig for more info.

Cryorig R1 Ult ($81.99) <- I've been hearing a lot of great things about these. 

Noctua NH-D14 ($79.99) <- Or the D15. Get whichever is cheaper.

 

If anybody else has a suggestion feel free to comment. I wanna learn about other air coolers too!

 

1.266V? I'm not that knowledgeable of overclocking so could you explain vdroop? Thanks 

Basically, Vdroop happens when your CPU is under heavy load--the Vcore drops slightly over a period of time (it isn't a sudden drop) in order to help the voltage controller on the Motherboard breathe/relieve stress a little.

 

So your CPU becomes more unstable the more Vdroop you have (it needs the juice to run at that speed--Vdroop takes away that juice slowly). The new thing in Haswell is that the CPUs now only ask for one voltage (aka VCCIN or input voltage). I would say that you should increase your VCCIN or input voltage to get more stable.

 

tl;dr, Vdroop is bad. Counter with increased VCCIN. If that doesn't work report back. We prolly need to do something else.

[EpIcPoNaGe]

Alright, well here are my suggestion...

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tl;dr, Vdroop is bad. Counter with increased VCCIN. If that doesn't work report back. We prolly need to do something else.

Thanks for the recommendations! How much larger than the 212 evo are they? Im just worried that they might not fit...

Which setting do I increase to increase the VCCIN? Also where do you look for the vdroop? Do I need to watch out for mobo temps?

What's your take on increasing bclk? It seems my CPU refuses to take a 48 multiplier and so I'm thinking I could try a small increase in bclk.

Sorry for all the questions >.<

[CatzRuleZWorld]

I think your case can fit a AIO cooler in the top... 

 

Newegg:

 

 

 Support 280/240mm liquid cooling radiator

[EpIcPoNaGe]

I think your case can fit a AIO cooler in the top...

Newegg:

Theres actually too little room at the top to fit a radiator. I have fans at the top and it's really close to touching the movie and ram