Macbook Pro not overpriced? (plz no fan boy stuff)

[david1196]

I want to ask this on forum and im scared to get crushed by people calling me apple fan boy, but I always thought apple macbook pros were overpriced, actually, its not too overpriced compared to new xps13 or lenovo x1 carbon?

opinion??

Please no calling me fan boy cuz only apple thing i own is their earphones and thats cuz thats the only thing it fits in my weird ears.

[Enderman]

the xps13 and x1 carbon also have a price premium for the design, just like apple

a lot of engineering goes into making something so thin and light

[Jaybird]

most laptops would be significantly more expensive if they went with an all aluminum construction. 

[adambombing]

I think you are correct. Everyone I know that owns a macbook pro (with a single exception) has had their laptops work reliably, quickly, and endure for long periods of time(3+ years). They have all held up much better than most of their laptop counterparts (not from the same price point, but laptops nonetheless), so I think the cost per year is probably much lower than buying budget windows laptops. That alone would make it a solid purchase in my book. I have never purchased a macbook, but I'm definitely considering it for my next one simply because of how reliable they are. There are definitely cons to using apple products (key software for the business user being behind (office comes to mind), among other things), but there are also pros (such as max exclusive programs and such). So I like to think that they do carry a premium, but most apple users say it is worth the jump, and over the years I have started to believe them. Say what you want about Apple, but it is pretty tough to argue that their hardware department sucks or is lacking (with notable exceptions, aka the new macbook) or is a (complete) waste of money.

[Notree]

The reason people think there overpriced is cause you can get more powerful machines that are maybe a little more bulky and a little less attractive for the same price. I wouldn't call them overpriced if  design is the number one buying factor.

[TJarsun]

Both Airs and retina MacBook Pros are greats laptops! Also in the future if you plan on changing it they will hold its value a lot better in the used market than non-Apple choices.

[Atmos]

Don't see a point to buying the newest macbook honestly. One port = a deal breaker for me.

 

I'm sorry, what if i wanted to use a mouse, AND have a usb drive plugged in? Oh, i need a dongle? and what about a mouse, phone, and usb plugged in? Another dongle? Well then, i think i see a pattern here. 

 

PC focused on being able to integrate components into the system interiors, i.e. more hard drives, and the like. Mac poured everything into thunderbolt, meaning external drives, and the like. Leading to a spaghetti monster of cables for those who wanted large storage. 

 

Current non-apple laptops still incorporate internal ports, leading to not have to have 5 freaking usb splitters. Apple may have stopped making *cough* traditional desktops, but they've continued their spaghetti monster belief for computers.

[david1196]

Don't see a point to buying the newest macbook honestly. One port = a deal breaker for me.

 

I'm sorry, what if i wanted to use a mouse, AND have a usb drive plugged in? Oh, i need a dongle? and what about a mouse, phone, and usb plugged in? Another dongle? Well then, i think i see a pattern here. 

 

PC focused on being able to integrate components into the system interiors, i.e. more hard drives, and the like. Mac poured everything into thunderbolt, meaning external drives, and the like. Leading to a spaghetti monster of cables for those who wanted large storage. 

 

Current non-apple laptops still incorporate internal ports, leading to not have to have 5 freaking usb splitters. Apple may have stopped making *cough* traditional desktops, but they've continued their spaghetti monster belief for computers.

@Atmos

Yea no doubt, the new macbook is very bad. Like Really bad. core M with one port cost 1200?

i really agree with you but I'm only talking about macbook pro 13 retina (base model, the cheapest one) compared to other laptops with similar specs.

[Atmos]

@Atmos

Yea no doubt, the new macbook is very bad. Like Really bad. core M with one port cost 1200?

i really agree with you but I'm only talking about macbook pro 13 retina (base model, the cheapest one) compared to other laptops with similar specs.

 

Yea macbook pro is far better

 

But still, I'd really hate of apple to get too full of themselves and go out to only give that'n one port too :3

[D2ultima]

For their specs and cooling and the fact that everything is basically integrated in them? They are ridiculously overpriced.

 

They DO have the benefit of not cheaping out on components though. For example: if you got a hard drive in a Macbook Pro, you'd never get a second-rate brand that's likely to show problems in a year or two. You're also likely to get 7200RPM drives instead of 5400RPM that is all the rage with most lower end (and midrange) laptops. The price to upgrade to better drives is not much, and it doesn't satisfy the price difference between Windows laptops and macbooks, but it's stupid that companies like Dell and HP and Lenovo etc have to low-ball us for that $5 (which can be translated into consumer price) to give us better hard drives and stuff.

 

The problem is that budget windows laptops, which are seen as their counterparts (as internal part strength is compared) suck due to being "budget" laptops, and people don't understand that budget laptops are terrible for anything beyond browsing the web and typing up a paper. Playing LoL, using Photoshop, watching livestreams on twitch? You should be getting a midrange laptop that's close to or as expensive as the macbooks. The macbooks can't cool worth a damn, but they can handle that level of low-power usage like I just described, and budget laptops can't. More midrange laptops can, and can handle more work too (though not medium work like 120fps CPU-intensive gaming or heavy work like good video rendering/3D modeling/good livestreaming).

 

In general, it's up to you what you want to buy. Just be wary that regardless of what you think of Apple, their prices *ARE* jacked up quite a lot, and a similarly-specced, almost-as-expensive windows laptop is likely to have very good internal construction (probably surpassing the macbook, which DOES focus on outer-body construction/looks/etc) and you should check reviews that test those things; possibly notebookcheck reviews. They favour design and aesthetics greatly, however they do check things most reviewers won't check or report on. At least lately Linus has been reporting temps and the workloads that he puts things under, etc, which is a lot better. 

[Norman_the_Owl]

Meh, the airs are pretty fairly priced, but the quad core macbook pros are ridiculous

3,000 dollars is way too much for that way too hot chassis